NFL 2012

[JWIV]

I'm caught up on Dr. Who at least. 

[Paelos]

Good lord, I turned it off because I was boring

I don't know if you can blame the game for that.

Heh, stupid mistypes.

[Paelos]

THAT WILL BE TALKED ABOUT.

Thanks replacement refs 

[JWIV]

I guess 70K people screaming Bullshit on national TV might get some play

[Malakili]

My initial reaction was no-good, and I don't have a horse in the race, but damned if it wasn't close.  Its impossible to tell for sure from the camera angles they showed if it went wide before it got even with the upright or not.  More fuel for the fire, either way.

To say nothing of the rest of the shitty calls.

I think I'm just going to stop watching until they get the real refs back at this point actually, screw it.  They kept saying the replacements would get better with time, but I see no evidence that this is the case.

[HaemishM]

What the fuck was Belichek thinking putting his hands on a ref? I don't know what they did to piss him off, but that was a real dick move.

[Malakili]

What the fuck was Belichek thinking putting his hands on a ref? I don't know what they did to piss him off, but that was a real dick move.

I think he was thinking "That was wide right, not to mention your calls on that last drive were shit, you incompetent fucks."

[ghost]

What the fuck was Belichek thinking putting his hands on a ref? I don't know what they did to piss him off, but that was a real dick move.

Well......he's a raging dick.  We knew that already.

He'll get a nice fine. 

[Slayerik]

And he'll still be wiping his ass with hundos.

Lions game made me sad. It was a tough weekend to be a Michigan man. (Lions, Wolverines, Tigers all suckin ass).

[sickrubik]

I didn't watch the NE/BAL game, but per Adam Schefter and other stuff, it sounds like Belichick was trying to get some answers about the ruling and whether it would be reviewed, etc and couldn't get an answer out of anyone and he ended up pissed off about the situation.

Now, that doesn't excuse it, and he should (and probably will) be fined, but it also sounds like someone, ANYONE should have responded to the Coach of one of the teams playing about a play that ended the game.

[01101010]

Well if he put his hands on a ref, he should be fined. Luckily, there are no refs in the NFL. Ergo, no fine.

Right?

BTW, what time did that Sunday night game end anyway?

[Paelos]

The game ended around Midnight. I've said I wasn't going to watch, but damn if this isn't like some trainwreck I can't take my eyes off of.

That being said, I didn't watch the whole game. I watched the first quarter and then turned it back on at the end. I can only take so much of a 4 hour fiasco.

[sickrubik]

The best part of the slow games? Remember how they pushed back the start times of the afternoon games to avoid overlap?

Even ignoring the overtime crap this weekend, there were still games with around 10 minutes to go when the afternoon games started. Good times.

[shiznitz]

Now I know it wasn't a close game, but Fox went dark on the Eagles game at 6:58pm with several minutes left to go. 

Most of you probably don't care, but I almost strangled myself with frustration.  Philly is 1st and goal on the 2 with 30 seconds left in the half.  Vick has been horrendous so far.  Does Any Reid give the ball to his most reliable player, McCoy?  Nope.  He calls for 4 pass plays.  On the 4th, Vick fumbles and the Cards run it all the way back for a TD to end the half.

Now, I understand that with 30 seconds and no time outs, there is time for 4 pass plays versus just one running play.  But after the first pass failed, there was still time ro run it.  And after the 2nd,  And after the 3rd.  McCoy is the best player on the team and he was never even on the field for the series.

[naum]

The Steelers’ Larry Foote Told The Replacement Refs “You Should Go Kill Yourselves”

You know the replacement referees are a debacle when a player gets injured on a dirty play that wasn't flagged, and no one notices because it wasn't even the worst uncalled dirty play of the quarter.

That honor goes to Pittsburgh's Ryan Mundy going helmet-to-helmet on Darius Heyward-Bey, requiring a neck brace and stretcher for Heyward-Bey. But later in the fourth, on what would be the Raiders' game-winning drive, Steelers DE Ziggy Hood was locked up with Oakland guard Mike Brisiel when his left knee was taken out from the side by tackle Willie Smith. The hit straddled the line between cut block and chop block, but the Steelers were immediately furious. LB Larry Foote began jawing with the refs, as did Hood as he was being helped off the field.

In the Oakland Coliseum, the visiting team's and referees' locker rooms are across the hall from each other, and both must take the same tunnel off the field. After the final play, Foote made a beeline for the locker room to get there at the same time as the officials. Jory Rand of CBS Pittsburgh saw what went down.

Larry Foote was the first Steeler to exit the field. I was set up nearby for our postgame show, and heard someone scream, "You should go kill yourselves. Y'all (bleep)ing suck!"

I leaned around the corner and saw Foote enter the Steelers room, while several officials, entering their room, craned their neck to see who it was that had yelled at them.

Foote had already left the room by the time media was allowed in so we were unable to ask him about it.

Scoring is up across the league, and defenses will eagerly tell you a big part of that is the refs. Naturally more inclined to swallow the whistle than draw attention to themselves by calling a penalty that doesn't exist, the refs are letting the already-borderline-dirty tactics of linemen go unexamined. Pass-rushers have already complained about the absence of offensive holding calls. And if we know anything about football players, it's that they'll push and push to see just how much they're allowed to get away with. For Larry Foote, a frustrating no-call in a frustrating game in a frustrating young season was just his breaking point.

[HaemishM]

I relish in the joy of watching Mike Vick get pummeled mercilessly and fumbling the ball when he should have scored. Just awesome.

I only watched one game all the way through yesterday, the Houston/Denver game. It's becoming painfully apparent that the Broncos just need to fire their fucking O coordinator. When Peyton has to call plays in the no huddle, he's lighting people up. When they run the normal offense, Denver looks inept and unable to move the ball. How else to explain Denver being limited to field goals until they were more than 2 TD's behind and they pretty much had to unleash Petyon? Denver's defense looks like dog shit this season. They sure couldn't do much to stop the long bomb yesterday other than give the Texans two straight roughing the passer penalties that is going to cost somebody a major fucking fine today.

Also, Pittsburgh's defense is really not good this year. Jim Schwarz is a fucking idiot. Blaine Gabbert wins a game. The Jets don't lose a game they should have lost, but they sure are going to miss Revis for the rest of the season. Saints are 0-3 and look in complete disarray, with a defense so dogshit, they let the Chiefs score 18 unanswered points. This is apparently the theme of this season - dogshit defenses that should be much better. Like, say, the Redskins who have given up 30 points to 3 opponents, only 1 of which should have scored that much. Falcons and Cardinals might actually be for fucking realz, y0.

And the replacement officials still suck major ass and shouldn't be there.

And finally, WHAT THE FUCK SAN FRANCISCO? COULDN'T STAND TO BE CALLED THE BEST TEAM IN FOOTBALL? MINNE-FUCKING-SOTA??? FUCK YOU.

[Paelos]

Just to show how ridiculous the NFL is right now, I decided this weekend to take the underdog on the money line for every single matchup in the league. Why? Because when the games are left completely unofficiated, anything can happen. Here's what I found out. I put $5 on every single money lined underdog for 13 games on Sunday.

I went 8-5. My biggest hit of the day? KC over the Saints at a $16 win on a $5 play. Vegas cleaned out anybody who took the favorites yesterday, because nobody can trust traditionally good teams to win with these refs. SF lost, the Saints lost, the Colts lost, the Lions lost, the Eagles lost, the Chargers lost, and the Steelers lost. The only games the big "favorites" won were the Cowboys and the Bears.

Basically I made 10x my starter bet on Sunday because even Vegas has no clue what's going on with the NFL right now. Parity? Chaos is more like it.

[sickrubik]

I only watched one game all the way through yesterday, the Houston/Denver game. It's becoming painfully apparent that the Broncos just need to fire their fucking O coordinator. When Peyton has to call plays in the no huddle, he's lighting people up. When they run the normal offense, Denver looks inept and unable to move the ball. How else to explain Denver being limited to field goals until they were more than 2 TD's behind and they pretty much had to unleash Petyon? Denver's defense looks like dog shit this season. They sure couldn't do much to stop the long bomb yesterday other than give the Texans two straight roughing the passer penalties that is going to cost somebody a major fucking fine today.

The defense got better after we benched Porter. He was getting torched. And yes, back to back roughing the passer penalties? Really? We didn't need to HELP them score. But, after the half they "only" scored 10 points.

Offensively speaking... yeah, not sure what's going on, but let Manning be the OC, basically. I will say though, it doesn't help when your players are dropping passes as well, and WHY THE FUCK did Thomas NOT DRAG HIS FOOT on that touchdown.

I was dismayed to see some commentary about Manning. The dude is looking good. Those few bombs he had made me reassured a bit about his arm-strength, so I came out of this game feeling good, considering Houston seems to be the most complete team in the NFL at the moment. Watt is scarey good.

[Trippy]

I was dismayed to see some commentary about Manning. The dude is looking good. Those few bombs he had made me reassured a bit about his arm-strength, so I came out of this game feeling good, considering Houston seems to be the most complete team in the NFL at the moment. Watt is scarey good.

Yes with the Niners losing the Texans will likely take the top spot in many writers' rankings.

[Bunk]

That was a fun weekend of Fantasy football - not. Played Detroit's D over Cinci, since they were playing the lowly Titans. oops.
Thomas for Denver - would have been great if you got points for coming really close...
McCoy for Philly - yea, good luck getting running back points when you are trailing by three touchdowns all game.
Yay, Graham got a touchdown! To go with his total 27 some odd yards...

Jay Cutler.  

At least I had the Titan's kicker!

And the Bears won.

[HaemishM]

Bears offense... officially still not good. Adding Brandon Marshall only helps if Cuntler isn't running for his life or Marshall actually catches the ball when it's thrown to him.

[Slayerik]

RG3 and Jason Hanson are the two reasons I'm 2-1....I drafted Chris Johnson in the first round. Ouch.

[MrHat]

I only watched one game all the way through yesterday, the Houston/Denver game. It's becoming painfully apparent that the Broncos just need to fire their fucking O coordinator. When Peyton has to call plays in the no huddle, he's lighting people up. When they run the normal offense, Denver looks inept and unable to move the ball. How else to explain Denver being limited to field goals until they were more than 2 TD's behind and they pretty much had to unleash Petyon? Denver's defense looks like dog shit this season. They sure couldn't do much to stop the long bomb yesterday other than give the Texans two straight roughing the passer penalties that is going to cost somebody a major fucking fine today.

My favorite part of that game? Watching the close up of Peyton's disgust face after a failed play - he looks back at the Mike McCoy like: "seriously, I told you these plays weren't going to work jackass".

And I just don't understand why PHI McCoy and NE Ridley don't get 20+ carries a game regardless.

[shiznitz]

And I just don't understand why PHI McCoy and NE Ridley don't get 20+ carries a game regardless.

I almost want Vick to get his elbow broken so McCoy gets 25+ carries a game.

[slog]

I was dismayed to see some commentary about Manning. The dude is looking good. Those few bombs he had made me reassured a bit about his arm-strength, so I came out of this game feeling good, considering Houston seems to be the most complete team in the NFL at the moment. Watt is scarey good.

Yes with the Niners losing the Texans will likely take the top spot in many writers' rankings.

I got the exact opposite impression about Peyton.  He looked old and his passes lacked zip.

[ghost]

Payton Manning looks better than I expected, considering he just got back from a year off from the sport after having a crazy neck fusion surgery.  Also, he's playing for a completely new team and is still better than 75% of the QBs in the league. 

[sickrubik]

I was dismayed to see some commentary about Manning. The dude is looking good. Those few bombs he had made me reassured a bit about his arm-strength, so I came out of this game feeling good, considering Houston seems to be the most complete team in the NFL at the moment. Watt is scarey good.

Yes with the Niners losing the Texans will likely take the top spot in many writers' rankings.

I got the exact opposite impression about Peyton.  He looked old and his passes lacked zip.

Did you see the previous games?

Because, his throws ,especially the deep ones had more accuracy and more oomph. There is no way he would be throwing those deep balls even a week ago, from what we could see. His finding his rhythm and shaking off the rust. He is NOT pre-injury Peyton, but he IS coming along.

[Nebu]

Injuries also have a significant mental component.  The first few games will be tough as Peyton gets used to the fact that he can take a hit without having to fear that he will be paralyzed.  Sure, he isn't the Peyton of old, but he still has some life left in his career.  

[HaemishM]

He's still an upgrade over Tebow. 

[Nebu]

He's still an upgrade over Tebow. 

Christian Ponder is an upgrade over Tebow.   I think I'd take a 50 year old Testeverde over Tebow.

[WayAbvPar]

I thought Peyton had some more zip on his medium-deep balls as well (20 yarders or so). I hope he shakes the rust and the OC off enough to pay me back for drafting either Decker or Thomas in every league this year.

Shockingly not nervous about tonight. No one really expects Seattle to put up a fight, so if they get smoked it won't be that big a deal. I expect a tough game, and GB to pull away in the 4th quarter. I would not be surprised at repeat of the Dallas game though- the crowd is going to be fucking INSANE tonight. GB isn't a fragile as Dallas, but the Seahawks and their fans also believe more now that they put Dallas away (and now that their only loss of the year is to an undefeated team....WTC?) . Really wish we still had tickets  

[JWIV]

This is nothing new from either side of the ball in the new NFL, but god damn how do you not call this when its LITERALLY IN YOUR FACE

[slog]

I was dismayed to see some commentary about Manning. The dude is looking good. Those few bombs he had made me reassured a bit about his arm-strength, so I came out of this game feeling good, considering Houston seems to be the most complete team in the NFL at the moment. Watt is scarey good.

Yes with the Niners losing the Texans will likely take the top spot in many writers' rankings.

I got the exact opposite impression about Peyton.  He looked old and his passes lacked zip.

Did you see the previous games?

Because, his throws ,especially the deep ones had more accuracy and more oomph. There is no way he would be throwing those deep balls even a week ago, from what we could see. His finding his rhythm and shaking off the rust. He is NOT pre-injury Peyton, but he IS coming along.

Is he better? Yes.  Is he worth 18 million?  No.  Lot's of wounded ducks out there in Denver.

[MuffinMan]

This is nothing new from either side of the ball in the new NFL, but god damn how do you not call this when its LITERALLY IN YOUR FACE

That ref wasn't paying attention, he doesn't have either of them on his fantasy team

[sickrubik]

I was dismayed to see some commentary about Manning. The dude is looking good. Those few bombs he had made me reassured a bit about his arm-strength, so I came out of this game feeling good, considering Houston seems to be the most complete team in the NFL at the moment. Watt is scarey good.

Yes with the Niners losing the Texans will likely take the top spot in many writers' rankings.

I got the exact opposite impression about Peyton.  He looked old and his passes lacked zip.

Did you see the previous games?

Because, his throws ,especially the deep ones had more accuracy and more oomph. There is no way he would be throwing those deep balls even a week ago, from what we could see. His finding his rhythm and shaking off the rust. He is NOT pre-injury Peyton, but he IS coming along.

Is he better? Yes.  Is he worth 18 million?  No.  Lot's of wounded ducks out there in Denver.

Given our choice, it was the right one. I think it's probably early  to say he's not worth it. Atlanta played brilliant defense for those picks. They aren't exactly slouch defenses in ATL or HOU.