SimCity is back, gaming is dead, RIP gaming.

[Yegolev]

I can't think of another combination of high sales, obvious lying, lofty brand name, and revered studio crashing together like this. Certainly not in traditional, non-MMO land.

They keep saying it's a MMO.

[Modern Angel]

So does World of Tanks. Doesn't make it true.

[jakonovski]

There's been a big patch. I had to rollback the gambling city after applying the patch. Waiting right now for the rollback to finish.

Other issues abound as well:

Updating as I discover or people report bugs:

Only titan gorge is showing up in the "Join Game" list. Where are the filter settings?
Road textures still fubar/disappearing when you pan/zoom
Leaderboards still show no data
Seeing the "Mayor X has upgraded Y" from a different region than the one being played -Alberto-Balsalm
Phantom sounds. Youtube Example: Trees making siren and honking noises - labombevolante
Game crashes -sp1d3r
Sewage OVERLOAD. 4k population, and sewage outflow pipe is MAXED.
Multiple cities stuck @ loading endlessly. No problem creating new ones.
High Density, Low Wealth Residential building graphic flickering -elitemarine
The railway on Discovery Delta isnt fixed. So Huckleberry Island is stil not connected to the railway.
City sounds 'dead' - lots of sirens, not much else -blitzedjesus
Global trade of Coal does not function. 4 delivery trucks, 15 tons in storage, no movement. -pitbull_lvr
Adding power plants, sewage, anything with agents takes several minutes to 'work' on cheetah -pitbull_lvr
Buildings stuck endlessly in construction -pitbull_lvr
Pollution from the region being magnified. New town, 4k population, 55 people in the clinic. -thehybridfrog
Transit not fixed. Deleted street cars depots and rebuilt it elsewhere and all the street cars disappeared. after the patch, the street cars are still gone.. - user681
Police car conga lines have not improved - fivestarchili
Great works out of sync - link - fivestarchili
Cars still double-backing to the road they came from to take a turn they could've taken earlier. - DerAffenbrotbaum
My cities have all reverted to old saves - bailystevens
Sewage problem with ferry terminal, sewage not been taken. - Moofers
When ANY Culture building is placed, ALL Commercial buildings immediately become Hotels/Motels, no matter how many tourists you have Industrial_Redditor
City FULL OF TAXIS after patch - rshilda
Clicking on a players profile will often bring up a different origin user's profile

...and lots more. Okay, well, not to be disrespectful to EA's potentially hard work, but 2.0 sure feels more like 'snake oil' than proper release. Keep 'em coming, we'll get this list complete and polish it up.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SimCity/comments/1cwkne/post_your_simcity_20_problems_here_heres_my_list/

[Mithas]

Every single time @simcity tweets anything it is followed by negative comments much like the Reddit thread. So much is broken that it has got to be nearly unplayable. Someone tweeted today that they lost ALL of their cities after the update. What other single player game does this happen in?

[HaemishM]

This is an MMO. 

[jakonovski]

Inter city services also broke down in my region. Sewage is being backed up and there's not enough power because the quantities of these goods are not being updated. They're stuck at pre patch levels.

[Mithas]

So is the game more broke now, or are just more people coming back to try it out with the new patch and finding new stuff broken?

[Outlawedprod]

Looks like we can sum up a lot of issues by referencing back to this.  Can't wait for the next glassbox simulator!
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/164870/

[Khaldun]

"Agents do not run rules". So much for all the utter wank bullshit in the pre-release promotionals. This is not an autonomous-agent based simulation and everyone involved in it should be ashamed of having ever said it was--it either means they didn't know what they were saying when they said that or that they did know and thus knew they were lying their fucking heads off. Wow. What a depressing short piece that is.

[eldaec]

Every single time @simcity tweets anything it is followed by negative comments much like the Reddit thread. So much is broken that it has got to be nearly unplayable. Someone tweeted today that they lost ALL of their cities after the update. What other single player game does this happen in?

Never mind single player games, I don't remember MMOGs wiping characters through piss poor patching.

[jakonovski]

So is the game more broke now, or are just more people coming back to try it out with the new patch and finding new stuff broken?

It's definitely not a server load issue. I just came back from work and loaded up the game; intercity commodities are still not updating.

[Morat20]

Probably should have hired a few developers with MMORPG experience. Apparently the networking, communication, and synching parts of MMORPG are kinda tricky.

Who knew?

[Reg]

I just can't believe how they've managed to destroy a decades old beloved game franchise like this.  SimCity was the first PC computer game I ever bought. Hell, I bought a pricy ATI EGA emulator card just so I'd be able to play it on my monochrome monitor!

[Mithas]

I just can't believe how they've managed to destroy a decades old beloved game franchise like this.  SimCity was the first PC computer game I ever bought. Hell, I bought a pricy ATI EGA emulator card just so I'd be able to play it on my monochrome monitor!

I printed out my original SimCity cities on paper. On a line printer. Yeah I thought it was awesome. Didn't buy this one.

[jakonovski]

This whole thing is just heartbreaking. I like it enough to play even with its nonsensical ruleset, but there's so much stuff that doesn't work.

[eldaec]

In EA's defence, I suspect this game is lot like what running an actual city feels like most of the time.

[tazelbain]

It's run by clueless bureaucrats who have no concern for the people using their services?

[jakonovski]

Day three and no change. I think the region just broke and the only out is to ditch 5 hours of gameplay and start from scratch. Or not play Simcity.

[HaemishM]

The only out is to ditch 5 hours of gameplay and start from scratch. Or not play Simcity.

I'm sure you'll make the right decision. 

[Soulflame]

He will play more SimCity, and document his misery for our amusement?

[jakonovski]

He will play more SimCity, and document his misery for our amusement?

I'm great at self-flagellation.

[Miasma]

He will play more SimCity, and document his misery for our amusement?

I'm great at self-flagellation.

I could tell by your chair recommendation in the other thread.

[luckton]

 

[eldaec]

Day three and no change. I think the region just broke and the only out is to ditch 5 hours of gameplay and start from scratch. Or not play Simcity.

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

[jakonovski]

He will play more SimCity, and document his misery for our amusement?

I'm great at self-flagellation.

I could tell by your chair recommendation in the other thread.

Much like Simcity, you have burned me. The chair heals my back though, so I love it unconditionally.

[jakonovski]

So hey, I was dumb enough to play again. I managed to jumpstart the power grid by building a shitload of new generators in my oil city. The game retaliated by having garbage collectors fail to pick up stuff so everyone is sick and dying (but my hospital remains empty). Construction sites are constantly failing to build anything (a bug apparently introduced in the latest patch), which has this nice synergy with 5+ buildings abandoned hourly because of the garbage issue.

[koro]

In other news, SimCity 4 Deluxe is on sale on Steam. 

[calapine]

2,49€...bought! 



(steam sales are evil to my finances  )

[Reg]

Oh good idea. I already own it but for 5 bucks I'll buy it again just to have it in my Steam account.

[Teleku]

Wait, didn't EA stop putting all its new stuff on steam in a huff over how to handle DLC (and to get people to use Origin)?  Or are they only doing that with major titles like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, and not catastrophically fucked up games?

[Stormwaltz]

I bought DA:O with all the DLCs for $7.50 on Steam last week. They may have reconsidered.

I bought a boxed copy of SimCity Societies last week. The goals it wants to express better fit what I want out of a city sim. And though you can't find their name ANYWHERE on the packaging, it was actually made by Tilted Mill (Caesar IV, Children of the Nile, Hinterland).

[koro]

For whatever reason, EA never removed their back catalog that was already on Steam. The only titles that were pulled (by Valve, actually) were ME2 and the then-new DA2. The last new game from EA on Steam was Crysis 2, which is still there.

[Kageru]

Mass effect 2 (the base game) is still on steam. Some of the DLC are unavailable on Steam because EA wanted to keep them exclusive to their own services, which was of course what the fight was about.

I rather like it really, if there was a "no games from this vendor" option on Steam I'd almost certainly put EA on it anyway.

[Sjofn]

Wait, didn't EA stop putting all its new stuff on steam in a huff over how to handle DLC (and to get people to use Origin)?  Or are they only doing that with major titles like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, and not catastrophically fucked up games?

That was a picture of SimCity 4, which is not the catastrofucked version. SimCity V is the one that is awful, and that is Origin exclusive. :P

I believe the only new shit getting on Steam from them these days are Sims 3 expansions.

[Ingmar]

The fight was over in-app/external DLC purchases, because it stops Valve getting their cut. They played chicken over it and both sides lost.