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on: March 02, 2012, 02:41:07 PM

I'm going to just point out it's on -75% sale now, in case some of you heathens haven't bought it yet.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/2600/

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Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 08:44:23 PM


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Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 09:21:30 PM

You didn't post the bar song. sad

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Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 09:45:28 PM

With the exception of the horrible techno in the Chinatown club, every song from that game has a prominent place in my iPod rotation.

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Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 10:54:48 PM


Can you get the OST out of the game or did you buy it separately?

Some games have started selling the digital download of the soundtrack besides the games, a trend I'm happy to see.

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Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 11:58:07 PM

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Reply #6 on: March 03, 2012, 12:53:59 AM

Can you get the OST out of the game or did you buy it separately?

They're in MP3 format in the game data folder, IIRC, but I've bought a couple of albums because of this game.

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Reply #7 on: March 03, 2012, 02:06:37 AM

Purchased. I loved the first game but never got around to buying this one.

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Reply #8 on: March 03, 2012, 03:54:51 AM

Purchased. I loved the first game but never got around to buying this one.

Make sure to patch up. The unofficial patch fixes a crazy amount of bugs: http://www.patches-scrolls.de/vampire_bloodlines.php
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Reply #9 on: March 03, 2012, 10:11:28 AM

Purchased. I loved the first game but never got around to buying this one.

I think they're quite a bit different if I'm not mistaken.

Still, great game.  Permanent position in my top 5.  And for a fairly linear game, it has a ton of reply value. 

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Reply #10 on: March 03, 2012, 10:59:55 AM

Yeah they're totally different games.  The first one plays more like an oldschool RPG and Bloodlines plays like an FPS with RPG elements.

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Reply #11 on: March 03, 2012, 01:15:07 PM

Bought it, but feel ripped off.  Steam is not supporting this game at all.  They aren't patching it to be playable.  You have to go to a lot of manual extremes to get it to even work.  I only know about it after going to the forums and digging.  I patched up to the unofficial patch last night, got it to actually work for awhile.  Had fun playing and I can see why it has a warm spot with many of you, but just tried to play again today and it can't find Steam again.

I'm really dissappointed.  I'm sure I'd like the game, but really not sure it is worth all this pain.  Feels like 20+ years ago when I had to spend hours tweaking just to play games on MS-DOS.

This really makes me question Steam too.  If they are going to sell this game, it should be patched to be playable from the start.
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Reply #12 on: March 03, 2012, 01:22:53 PM

Hmm.  I've never had any problems running it on steam, although I always used the unofficial patch.  I'm assuming you've tried a reinstall?
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Reply #13 on: March 03, 2012, 01:51:41 PM

In defense of Steam, most of the technical problems extend from the fact that support for the game by the developer ended before Windows Vista/7 came out (because Troika went out of business), and so it was left to others to fix memory and scripting issues.  Steam automatically patching in the unofficial patches, which fix those issues, probably violates their license to distribute the game or some such.  Not to mention the fact that there are two competing unofficial patches that fix most of the games technical problems, and they both have ardent followers who swear up and down that they're the best; which side would Steam take?

For me, fixing the problems was as simple as downloading one patch and installing it.

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Reply #14 on: March 03, 2012, 04:39:12 PM

I patched up to the unofficial patch last night, got it to actually work for awhile.  Had fun playing and I can see why it has a warm spot with many of you, but just tried to play again today and it can't find Steam again.

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Reply #15 on: March 03, 2012, 11:52:15 PM

Bought it, but feel ripped off.  Steam is not supporting this game at all.

Yeah, I went into EB games retail and told them to develop a new patch for the game and they just looked at me funny!

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Reply #16 on: March 04, 2012, 01:51:06 AM

So uhm, my copy, just bought today, ran just fine right out of the gate. Of course, I run steam as administrator by default, so I'm not sure if just the circumvented the big bugs. I didn't get very far into the gameplay today, just the first few scenes, but so fare, so good. Do I really need to futz about with patches?

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Reply #17 on: March 04, 2012, 08:44:58 AM

Need to?  No.  I played the game so many times as-is I lost count.  They do add nice fixes though, so it's really up to you.

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Reply #18 on: March 04, 2012, 08:54:37 AM

Really wish I would have seen this thread while it was on sale. I've never played Bloodlines, for some reason I do not know.

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Reply #19 on: March 04, 2012, 10:17:20 AM


It's on sale fairly frequently.

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Reply #20 on: March 04, 2012, 12:26:33 PM

So uhm, my copy, just bought today, ran just fine right out of the gate. Of course, I run steam as administrator by default, so I'm not sure if just the circumvented the big bugs. I didn't get very far into the gameplay today, just the first few scenes, but so fare, so good. Do I really need to futz about with patches?

I highly recommend it.  There are some pretty shitty bugs that you can run into if you don't use the unofficial patch.  Of course, there are still some bugs you will run into with that patch, but they are far less game-breaking.

Pluis the unofficial patch adds all sorts of content that was in the game, but disabled at launch due to bugginess.
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Reply #21 on: March 04, 2012, 07:46:46 PM

Who gets the money for V:TM anyway considering that Troika or whatever is gone? I dream sometimes that Valve would acquire the code/art assets and licenses needed from V:TM and gives it a good once-over and recompile with the latest source engine instead of the literal 0.1 beta version of Source it was originally compiled with.

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Reply #22 on: March 07, 2012, 08:34:00 AM

Feels like 20+ years ago when I had to spend hours tweaking just to play games on MS-DOS.

This really makes me question Steam too.  If they are going to sell this game, it should be patched to be playable from the start.

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It IS 20 years ago. Well ten and I'm guessing that 20 years ago was typical internet hyperbole. Steam is now responsible for making games work? Go back to fucking consoles if you have this much trouble. I've had to patch and fuck with so many "AAA" titles on pc, its just the nature of the format. Borderlands .ini tweaks, CIV patches & mods, BloodBowl tweaks & mods, EA games just not working right thanks to Origins etc. On the plus side though my games run better, look better, I can mod them, I can use console commands, I can use trainers, I get to use a mouse and so on.
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Reply #23 on: March 07, 2012, 09:55:39 AM


Even on consoles that would be a hardware generation ago which has its own backwards compatibility issues, especially from a dead developer.

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Reply #24 on: March 07, 2012, 10:08:53 AM

I'm guessing that 20 years ago was typical internet hyperbole.
Unsurprisingly, wrong.

As far as an 'easier' version, you will probably have to wait for gog to get it. Steam ist just a delivery mechanism, you will get official patches but that's it. Gog delivers the goods.

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Reply #25 on: March 07, 2012, 11:56:41 AM

That's funny I remember navigating MS DOS prompts occasionally for games and I sure as fuck wasn't gaming 20 years ago. My point was that his whole "this feels like I've gone back in time" is a stupidfuck statement when he's trying to play a 10 year old game. You did go back in time buddy.

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Reply #26 on: March 07, 2012, 01:45:17 PM

You do have a point there.

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Reply #27 on: March 07, 2012, 02:01:10 PM

Hey, Hoax, you're old

10 years ago was 2002. I don't think anyone was navigating MS-Dos prompt.

1997 was the last time I recall having to do any of that, which would be 15 years ago.

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Reply #28 on: March 07, 2012, 02:13:10 PM

Who gets the money for V:TM anyway considering that Troika or whatever is gone?

Presumably Activision, who published it.

At any rate, it'll undoubtedly be on sale again during the inevitable summer sale in a few months. I should really give the game a shot again with more current patches since I tried it out back in 2007-2008 or so and absolutely hated the thing, even fanpatched. Maybe more gameplay refinements and bug fixes can help me overlook the fact that it's a V:TM game this time.
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Reply #29 on: March 07, 2012, 07:18:46 PM

Have people seriously still been working at this since then? i thought the fan made patches were pretty old and basically done.

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Reply #30 on: March 08, 2012, 04:14:28 AM

The last two unofficial patch versions are from October and November of 2011. I don't think that counts as pretty old. Some mods are also still getting updates.
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Reply #31 on: March 08, 2012, 10:48:06 PM

Hey, Hoax, you're old

10 years ago was 2002. I don't think anyone was navigating MS-Dos prompt.

1997 was the last time I recall having to do any of that, which would be 15 years ago.

Good point I am old. When the fuck did that happen exactly.

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Reply #32 on: March 09, 2012, 09:31:31 AM

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Reply #33 on: May 08, 2014, 02:18:28 AM

I decided to try the latest patches and clan mod and give this a whirl again, then I got to the haunted hotel and just noped for the night. It's amazing the atmosphere they put into this game.


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Reply #34 on: May 08, 2014, 12:29:41 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Bloodlines ruined all other CRPGs for me.  Forever.

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