What's in a McNugget and other fun food facts

[Mosesandstick]

I think there are supposed to be machines that will do it for you?

[Merusk]

I think there are supposed to be machines that will do it for you?

Soda Stream.

Though they look damned expensive, but hey, still cheaper than labeled brands in the long run.

[Sheepherder]

I meant London, England, i.e. at the mouth of the Thames.

I'm aware you were referring to London, England.  The point was that I know of places where the water quality at the source tests safer than the tap water, you're still fucking crazy if you think that it's safe to drink straight out of a river anywhere near human habitation.

[ghost]

Well, there is a London, Ontario isn't there?   

And yes.  Mmmmm.  Pamplemousse   

[Vaiti]

I don't want to hear about London, ON

I'm a direct reason AirCanda now clarifies between London UK and London Canada.

"Everyone knows about London, ON we have a famous mathematics university here."

No. No one knows about your city. Shut up lady and give me my refund.

[Reg]

There is no famous math university in London, Ontario.  The lady was thinking of Waterloo which is WAY more famous.

[Mrbloodworth]

Pink Slime, Ammonium Hydroxide Fast Food Ground Beef Additive, Dropped By McDonald's Et Al.

McDonald's said this week that it was no longer using the controversial ground beef additive known as "pink slime" in its hamburger recipe. Taco Bell and Burger King have also reportedly repudiated the "slime," which consists of spare beef trimmings that have been treated with ammonium hydroxide to make them safe and at least semi-palatable.

The move came after "Food Revolution" and "Naked Chef" star Jamie Oliver made public calls for chains to abandon the "slime," which has been manufactured by Beef Products Inc since 2001. Some are pointing to his advocacy as a central factor behind McDonald's decision.

[ghost]

For fuck's sake, I can't imagine how anyone could eat food from a restaurant chain that would even think about using this shit in the first place.   

[Mrbloodworth]

Between this and the removal of flavored milk from schools, its a big shame Jamie Oliver is no longer on air. But, he went up against people and organizations with way to much money. Like LAUSD.

BTW, its still used in school lunches.

[Ironwood]

Watching Jamie Oliver bash his head off of Capitalism over there was heartbreaking.  Truly Heartbreaking.

And I hate the flap mouthed Essex sockpuppet.

[Paelos]

Here's what I don't get. On the one hand, America is hugely fat. Supposedly 26.5% of Americans are obese, and another 39% are overweight. A lot of that is due to crap diets and sedintary jobs and lifestylers.

Then, on the other hand, Feeding America reports that 1 in 8 Americans is on food support. What? So we're either fattening up or we're going hungry? There's a ridiculous imbalance here.

[Ironwood]

Well yeah.

If you have nothing to eat, you're starving.  If all that is on offer is Shite that won't pass a single inspection, you'll get fat.

[WayAbvPar]

Exactly. The cheapest, easiest to obtain food is often the most fattening/least nutritious.

[Mrbloodworth]

IE:



Enjoy kids.

[Trippy]

Watching Jamie Oliver bash his head off of Capitalism over there was heartbreaking.  Truly Heartbreaking.

And I hate the flap mouthed Essex sockpuppet.

What's even more depressing is he showed how they make school lunches in Italy in his Jamie's Great Italian Escape show (skip to 03:05):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmBH1pa1kfc

[HaemishM]

Here's what I don't get. On the one hand, America is hugely fat. Supposedly 26.5% of Americans are obese, and another 39% are overweight. A lot of that is due to crap diets and sedintary jobs and lifestylers.

Then, on the other hand, Feeding America reports that 1 in 8 Americans is on food support. What? So we're either fattening up or we're going hungry? There's a ridiculous imbalance here.

The 1% are the only ones that can afford healthy diets.  

[MahrinSkel]

Here's what I don't get. On the one hand, America is hugely fat. Supposedly 26.5% of Americans are obese, and another 39% are overweight. A lot of that is due to crap diets and sedintary jobs and lifestylers.

Then, on the other hand, Feeding America reports that 1 in 8 Americans is on food support. What? So we're either fattening up or we're going hungry? There's a ridiculous imbalance here.

To get on SNAP (food stamps, but actually EBT cards now) you just need to show that without it you don't have enough money to eat.  Unless you have a large family (6+) food stamps are around $200/month.  I defy you to find a way to feed a family of 2 (let's make it simple: a single mom and one kid) on $200/month without cramming in a lot of empty calories from simple starches and HFCS.

--Dave

[HaemishM]

For fuck's sake, I can't imagine how anyone could eat food from a restaurant chain that would even think about using this shit in the first place.   

Why do you hate freedom capitalism?

[Paelos]

Here's what I don't get. On the one hand, America is hugely fat. Supposedly 26.5% of Americans are obese, and another 39% are overweight. A lot of that is due to crap diets and sedintary jobs and lifestylers.

Then, on the other hand, Feeding America reports that 1 in 8 Americans is on food support. What? So we're either fattening up or we're going hungry? There's a ridiculous imbalance here.

To get on SNAP (food stamps, but actually EBT cards now) you just need to show that without it you don't have enough money to eat.  Unless you have a large family (6+) food stamps are around $200/month.  I defy you to find a way to feed a family of 2 (let's make it simple: a single mom and one kid) on $200/month without cramming in a lot of empty calories from simple starches and HFCS.
--Dave

Easy. Same way we did it growning up. None of these items are terrible expensive.

Dried Beans, brown rice, various greens (usually collard or turnip), chicken when it's on sale, pork roasts, skim milk, onions, peppers, bananas, apples, pears, cottage cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, carrots, corn meal, butter, vegetable oil, sweet potatoes, whole wheat bread, turkey, low-fat cheese, mustard, vinegar, spices.

[Mrbloodworth]

When you were growing up, they would teach about food. We are likely on the second generation that thinks a happy meal is food preparation.

Take note of that video Trippy linked. Those kids could identify vegetables. Jamie already has shown this is not the case in the USA.

[Paelos]

Red beans and brown rice with turkey sausage, tobasco, and collard greens on the side with fresh cornbread?

That's still one of my favorites from growing up.

[Mrbloodworth]

[ghost]

Beans and brown rice is a wonderful way to feed lots of people in a relatively nutritious manner.  You can feed a lot of people on $200 per month, it's just that most people are lazy when it comes to food, rich and poor alike.  Hence why fast food is so popular. 

[HaemishM]

I know I shouldn't, but I love me some Taco Bell Beefy Crunch Burrito.

[01101010]

I know I shouldn't, but I love me some Taco Bell Beefy Crunch Burrito.

That is actually my favorite flavor of Dew as well... Goes particularly well with Malibu Rum.

And that Jamie vid Trippy linked just made part of me die. Seriously... those kids eat better than I do most days. 

[CmdrSlack]

I think there are supposed to be machines that will do it for you?

Soda Stream.

Though they look damned expensive, but hey, still cheaper than labeled brands in the long run.

I have one. I think the base unit cost about 99 bucks. I can make my own knock-off LaCroix flavors as well as various diet sodas that don't taste like shit. Oddly enough, I think my soda consumption has actually gone down as a result of owning one of these things. This is largely because I don't impulse fountain soda, etc. when I'm not at home -- I feel stupid paying for something I can make at home.

[Trippy]

What's even more depressing is he showed how they make school lunches in Italy in his Jamie's Great Italian Escape show (skip to 03:05):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmBH1pa1kfc

Hey this episode is cut. There's also a scene where he shows the cooks at that school some of the food lunch "products" from England.

[ghost]

What's even more depressing is he showed how they make school lunches in Italy in his Jamie's Great Italian Escape show (skip to 03:05):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmBH1pa1kfc

Hey this episode is cut. There's also a scene where he shows the cooks at that school some of the food lunch "products" from England.

Sounds very Pink Floyd's The Wall-ish.   

[Sheepherder]

Beans and brown rice is a wonderful way to feed lots of people in a relatively nutritious manner.

Beans were pretty much a precursor to the human race advancing out of the dark ages.  Your average medieval peasant probably got the vast majority of his daily protein requirement from beans, due to the scarcity and issues of not rising above your station when dealing with meat.

[Bunk]

You all know the answer to this - the vast majority of people, if you were to hand them that whole list of food from Paelos, wouldn't have the faintest clue how to make something edible out of it. Maybe you would get a decent sandwhich out of it, but oops, you picked whole wheat bread. Good luck getting the average American kid to eat that.

It really is sad. I grew up in the 70s. My mom was third oldest of eleven siblings. She learned to cook for her family. When money was iffy, I grew up on chillis and stews in the winter, and during the summer, it was meat, veggie, starch - every meal. My mom baked, pickled, canned, preserved, etc.

As a side note, I figure being raised to eat like this is why I actually love all the vegetables that everyone seems to hate.

As a kid, McDonalds was considered a special treat - about once every two months.

[Paelos]

I also left off eggs. Forgot about that. Good protein source that's dirt cheap.

[Pennilenko]

I also left off eggs. Forgot about that. Good protein source that's dirt cheap.

Man I love me some eggs. My wife gives me a hard time but I absolutely have to have a two egg sandwich lightly salt and peppered on two pieces of homemade seven grain bread at least once every day. Sometimes I add a little bit of homemade catchup. Yummy.

I could easily survive as a happy man, with just eggs, beans, and various rices. With the occasional vegetable and meat serving. Oh, yeah forgot to add, I got to have me some hot sauce, I put my homemade pepper sauce on everything hehe. It drives my wife crazy.

[Yegolev]

More than the constant farting?

[Paelos]

More than the constant farting?

You really want to ruin a room? Sauteed purple cabbage, brown rice, and beans. Toss some southern Chow-Chow on that.

Holy hell.

[ghost]

Good luck getting the average American kid to eat that.

It really is sad. I grew up in the 70s. My mom was third oldest of eleven siblings. She learned to cook for her family. When money was iffy, I grew up on chillis and stews in the winter, and during the summer, it was meat, veggie, starch - every meal. My mom baked, pickled, canned, preserved, etc.

As a side note, I figure being raised to eat like this is why I actually love all the vegetables that everyone seems to hate.

As a kid, McDonalds was considered a special treat - about once every two months.

If a kid gets hungry enough they'll eat just about anything.  That always drives me nuts about parents who give their kids soda and juice all the time instead of water.  "He just won't drink anything else," is a common response.  Bullshit.  That is why we have thirst and hunger drives.  It is guaranteed that if food and water are available that your child won't starve to death or die from dehydration. 

You have a great point about people not being able to cook any more.  The shit that some of the families in my neighborhood cook for their kids is appalling. 

One thing we've done to help broaden our kids' eating tastes is baby led weaning.  Because our kids have always eaten real food instead of shitty baby food they really like real food.  My oldest boy will eat spicy food and mexican/chinese/indian and just about anything we throw at him.  And he's in that picky 2-3 year old range.