What's going right/wrong with launch...

[Tannhauser]

The points aren't meaningless.  You can buy rewards based on your social level.  Now if the rewards are worth it is another debate.

[El Gallo]

Seems like a bitch and a half to multibox a game without /follow, but people are doing it http://www.dual-boxing.com/forumdisplay.php?s=fba5aad623cd352ad4dd7a11bcb060f5&f=50

Tank + heal characters, each with a dps companion, would fare pretty well in the instances I think. 

[Trippy]

I'd say it's more like 10 bitches rather than 1.5 to multibox without a working follow system but I do it anyways just cause I'm hardcore yo

And just to make it even more challenging I do it all "manually" with two keyboards and no helper programs

[Lantyssa]

You're crazy, Trippy.  I have enough trouble controlling one character.

(Also, can we get the SWTOR moved thread unsticked, please?  I think everyone knows where to look by now.)

[El Gallo]

You need to take that APM and multitasking to Korea and start making money as a Starcraft pro, man.

[Threash]

There's still gathering nodes i can't collect.

[kildorn]

There's still gathering nodes i can't collect.

Tarsis had about a third of the nodes under the world for me. Had map icon, could see glowy thing, but the node was obviously inside the hill.

[Threash]

Oh i can see them, i just can't collect them like before the patch.

[Tyrnan]

Oh i can see them, i just can't collect them like before the patch.

I've run into a few of these as well, although way less than before the fix. At least they're easier to spot now since they don't have the holographic aurebesh above them.

[Lantyssa]

I haven't tried since the patch, but if someone harvests the node, but moves prior to looting, it "locks" it as unharvestable for others.

[Azazel]

So Paelos is happy in forcing his guild to act as his personal servants when he wants to run dungeons, and Mr Bloodworth thinks sitting in a zone spamming "DPS LFG" is engaging and desirable gameplay. Has anyone got any, you know, compelling defences of the lack of an adequate LFG system?

I've said before, I have no problem with a good flagging system being implemented. I do have a problem with cross-server matching unless you give me the ability to continually group with or hold accountable those on the other end.

Allow cross-server friends and then allow them to group together. Problem solved.
Seriously, when I was running levelling LFD pugs with my Warrior tank, after awhile I learned the "tank arrogance" that you clearly have. If someone's a dickhead, you boot them, or even tell the group "him or me". This was rare, though, and for the most part, people were just generic blobs. Sometimes, I got to group with some really nice and cool people, and the tragedy was that I'd never see them again. OTOH, if not for LFD, I'd never have even met them once.

As for your community multiplayer game rah rah shit, I play MMOs to play with my wife and a couple of RL friends. I have a couple of WoW-friends, but lo and behond, they've left the game. Everyone else can be there or not as far as I care, and due to - yes - my work and such, I don't have the time to play constantly and maintain those social ties that you have. Way back in my EQ days, I'd log on pretty much every single day, and have guildies that you'd go do for or they would do for you. But nowadays, I play sporadically. I play WoW for a few months each year, I play LOTRO (with a lifetime sub - so no financial/resub deterrant) about 2-3 times a month. It seems that you're telling me since I don't have the time/inclination to log on each and every night that I don't deserve to group/these games are not for me. Which is bullshit. If you want to spend every single evening logged into MMOGofChoice, then more power to you, but I'm actually not inclined to put that much time and effort into an MMO community, but I'd still like to play the games. 

[eldaec]

Allow cross-server friends and then allow them to group together.

Only even impacts the problem if you allow sidekicking or similar. It takes shockingly little time for one character to out level another in this game.

But I appreciate this applies regardless of cross-server matchmaking.

[eldaec]

Also, another thought on this. The two notable single server games I can think of off the top of my head, EVE and ATitD, both manage to have a stronger community than any sharded dikumud I've played.

[Draegan]

That's because they have small populations.  The smaller the group the more likely they will be tighhter.

[Numtini]

As for your community multiplayer game rah rah shit

I think that framed the discussion really well. That "rah rah shit" is why I play these games when I don't play single player or small group games.

With non-anonymous LFD, I think there's a natural segregation into the people who feel like that about the games and the people that feel like myself about the games. That's the community we're talking about.=

[Trippy]

Alright everybody STFU about LFG/LFD. Thank you for your cooperation.

[Simond]

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=105802
Hope nobody gets hacked ever.

[01101010]

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=105802
Hope nobody gets hacked ever.

 

[Ironwood]

No, seriously ?

That's fucking stupid.

[Tannhauser]

So they can't provide customer service due to the high demands of providing customer service?

[Azazel]

Alright everybody STFU about LFG/LFD. Thank you for your cooperation.

Yep, I was replying as I was reading. Hadn't got to the STFU bit yet.

Though the lack of /follow seems a bit bizarre. My wife and friends use it all the time when travelling in other games. I reckon this might be a good game to jump into in 6-12 months when they have added some CS/UI/Free Trials. Reading the forums here though provides some good insight into the game. It appears that Tanks are the in-demand class over healers at this stage?

[Thrawn]

It appears that Tanks are the in-demand class over healers at this stage?

On the server I was on it was the opposite, tanks were pretty easy, healers were really, really rare.

[tmp]

Seems to be pretty even -- saw people asking for a healer, and ones who were looking for a tank as well.

[Tannhauser]

I don't particularly like BH healing. I have two main heals, one of which is on a timer.  I have Kolto Missile, which is a target aoe, hard for me to do in combat and the Kolto Shell which is pretty decent.

Still working toward the top talent insta-heal in the Bodyguard line.  I've been a BG all this time.

[rattran]

The instant heal is nice, but 21 seconds is a long, long time for the cooldown.

[luckton]

IA healing becomes almost cake-like once you get Kolto Probe.  With a HoT stacked on every party member, you're constantly generating Tac. Advs. for insta-heal, no energy cist action 

[eldaec]

That's because they have small populations.  The smaller the group the more likely they will be tighhter.

Not nearly as small as a single eq clone server.

[jakonovski]

Not sure if this stuff is true, but here's some weird ass warnings/bans allegedly handed by Bioware.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/01/01/swtor-ban-for-high-level-looting-unlikely/

I like this one:

[Numtini]

"I was banned for saying the F word twice in private tells! Oh yeah, I also spammed it for six hours in global too..."

Best part is the fanboy accepting that someone was being warned for private tells and setting him right that it's bioware's game.

[Tyrnan]

I love the fact he's Irish, not stereotypical of us at all!  

I'd be surprised if it's real though but I might find out shortly since I told my mate to fuck off in a tell yesterday. If I get any warning from BW I'll let you know!

[luckton]

I like this one:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/1J98e.jpg[/img

Whispers and stuff are logged.  If he says he can remember three of the four, then it's the forth dude that ratted him out and caused the investigation.

[Merusk]

I've heard from the Rednames and others and been around CS staff for Banks and retailers enough to know that people:
1) Underestimate by a very large margin how much swearing they actually do.
2) Lie like a fucking rug when caught doing something against policies.

I'm disinclined to believe he cursed in public only once. Time and again we've seen similar claims and when the company /does/ reveal the details the person in question was lying out their ass about the situation.

[Zetor]

It appears that Tanks are the in-demand class over healers at this stage?

On the server I was on it was the opposite, tanks were pretty easy, healers were really, really rare.

Same here. In the few FPs I was able to get a PUG together, we ran with two tanks because there are just too many of them. Finding a healer was always the hardest part... I wish I could press a button and respec into healing commando on my tanking vanguard, but alas.

[Mrbloodworth]

Though the lack of /follow seems a bit bizarre.

There is a follow. But its a bit buggy. Right click someones portrait.

[ajax34i]

There's also a follow keybind you can press.