What's going right/wrong with launch...

[Sky]

Single server solution that takes your ignore list into account would be cool. Not sure how much I'd use it, but don't see the harm there.

Hell, they could add a post-mortem 'add to ignore' the way they have an 'add to friends'. 

[Mrbloodworth]

[Trippy]

Alright everybody STFU about LFG/LFD. Thank you for your cooperation.

[Paelos]

Alright everybody STFU about LFG/LFD. Thank you for your cooperation.

Should we make a separate thread?

[Trippy]

Don't you think the dead horse has been atomized yet?

[Paelos]

Probably, but you know it's going to come up again.

I'm just trying to head off your frustration at the pass, when we yet again derail the launch thread.

[Sky]

Maybe they can add LFD to slicing.

[luckton]

Maybe they can add LFD to slicing.

 

[Simond]

The UI team is going to work on improving the existing UI first before we look at modding it. Modding may happen, but we have no ETA on 'when' that we can share right now.

Hope everyone likes the current LFG/AH/action bars/raid UI/absence of threat meters/absence of combat log/etc.

[El Gallo]

The UI team is going to work on improving the existing UI first before we look at modding it. Modding may happen, but we have no ETA on 'when' that we can share right now.

Hope everyone likes the current LFG/AH/action bars/raid UI/absence of threat meters/absence of combat log/etc.

It's like Smedley and Ghostcrawler had a baby that fell on its head on the way out.

[luckton]

The UI team is going to work on improving the existing UI first before we look at modding it. Modding may happen, but we have no ETA on 'when' that we can share right now.

Hope everyone likes the current LFG/AH/action bars/raid UI/absence of threat meters/absence of combat log/etc.

For those not aware, the original quote was from Stephen Reid, doing a Q&A session on Reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/comments/nty9d/im_stephen_reid_senior_community_manager_for_star/c3bxds9

TL:DR: We know or were working on it. Not one concrete answer about anything.

[sam, an eggplant]

http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/comments/nty9d/im_stephen_reid_senior_community_manager_for_star/c3bxds9

Wow. He didn't answer one single non-fluff question. Not a single one. What a waste of time for everyone involved.

You'd think they would give him something to announce so it doesn't look like he's blatantly evading every question. But no.

[eldaec]

The real problem with lfg in swtor is that this is the first ever star wars mmog lfg tool in which I am unable to record my star sign, or my interest in classical guitar music.

[CmdrSlack]

Or blood type. That shit is key. I just can't be burdened supporting someone who is O-. Heaven forbid that I'm grouping with someone who is MN, LM, or LN. That shit gets real.

[Tannhauser]

Got a PUG to Cademumu within 5 minutes.  One guy dropped and we finished the instance with a dps companion.  Sorry, right now I don't see a big problem without the LFG tool. 

Really enjoying the crafting, probably the best part of the game to me.  It's slowing my leveling because I'm crafting and hanging around the station selling.

Also, the patch seems to have fixed my "Error 9000" CTD.  Played two nights now with no problems.   

Still in love with the game, but they need more social options in flashpoints. 

[tmp]

Still in love with the game, but they need more social options in flashpoints. 

Yeah, the latter ones are pretty bad. Did the Hammer Station, Athiss and Four Horsemen with one character and got 37 points total to show for it. In contrast the first FP is roughly 150 points a run. Considering the social rank requirements go up rather than down as you move in levels (10 points for 1st, i think 750 or so for 2nd? And gods know how much for the next) ... that's a quite ridiculous drop.

[Soln]

err what are social pts?  I thought they were only for cosmetic/rp things (from looking at a starting vendor).

[Koyasha]

Social vendors on other planets give other stuff.  The one on tatooine sells what I THINK is a level 25 speeder that actually has a seat, for instance, but requires social level 3.

[Cyrrex]

Do you get social points simply by grouping and that's it?

[Nevermore]

They come from making dialog choices while in a group, from what I can tell.

[Koyasha]

By making dialogue rolls.  I think you get 4 points per other group member (4,8,12) if you win the roll, and 2 points per other group member (2,4,6) if you lose the roll, but I'm not completely sure on that.

As far as I can tell, there's only two ways to gain lots of social points: Always group with someone for all quests so that every conversation has rolls, or do something repeatable, with a group, that has lots of conversations, a LOT.  The former is hard unless you're playing exclusively with one person, the latter as far as I can tell consists of running the black talon several hundred times, because none of the other flashpoints that I've played so far have very many conversations.

Thus far, social points seem to me to be the worst of all the systems they've implemented in this game.  Oh, and the speeder I mentioned requires social 5, not 3.  3 is for sand people robes.

[rattran]

I now have 3 full bars of needed abilities. This is ridiculous. And Social Points seem to be as implemented as the Legacy Bar levels.

[eldaec]

Social points are important for light armour users as they are only source of clothing that does not look awful.

[Tannhauser]

It's important to note that you get social points for grouping even outside of flashpoints.  So if you had a regular teammate, you'd get social points for every quest.  THAT'S how you raise it.

[Fabricated]

Supposedly the level-cap flashpoints have more RP stuff in them than the bog-standard flashpoints with like one unvoiced moral choice preceding them. Still kind of a bummer they didn't flesh them out more.

[eldaec]

I now have 3 full bars of needed abilities. This is ridiculous.

Yeah, only 3 full bars is a little low, but they have to leave room for expansions.

[Paelos]

It's important to note that you get social points for grouping even outside of flashpoints.  So if you had a regular teammate, you'd get social points for every quest.  THAT'S how you raise it.

Correct. I'm almost Social 3 at level 27 because I've duoed with a buddy of mine from lvl 10.

[01101010]

I been farming Esseles for dark side points. 250 a run. Very surprised you could do that...

[Thrawn]

I been farming Esseles for dark side points. 250 a run. Very surprised you could do that...

Seems like something that will be changed.  In the mean time...logging in to try it right now.  

Does this work for crew affection too if you have your first crew member with you? *edit* Yes

[Thrawn]

So, any other Jedi Consulars - (spoilered for slight storyline spoilers at around level 30)

[Koyasha]

It's important to note that you get social points for grouping even outside of flashpoints.  So if you had a regular teammate, you'd get social points for every quest.  THAT'S how you raise it.

The problem with that is that if your quests aren't exactly in sync, you don't get to participate in the same conversations and therefore don't get social points.  Also, the only conversations in most quests are at the acquisition and turnin stages, which means looking for someone to group with in General, the other person will almost always already have picked up the mission and therefore already have had the conversation.  And most groups break up before turning in all the missions - a lot of people prefer to avoid turning in missions together so that someone else's choices don't screw up their dialogue, because they actually want to make their own choices. 

So forget about getting social points by randomly grouping, most of the time - you have got to have an actual partner that you play with almost constantly in order for normal quests to be a good source of social points.

[Simond]

The UI team is going to work on improving the existing UI first before we look at modding it. Modding may happen, but we have no ETA on 'when' that we can share right now.

Hope everyone likes the current LFG/AH/action bars/raid UI/absence of threat meters/absence of combat log/etc.

For those not aware, the original quote was from Stephen Reid, doing a Q&A session on Reddit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/comments/nty9d/im_stephen_reid_senior_community_manager_for_star/c3bxds9

TL:DR: We know or were working on it. Not one concrete answer about anything.

A fun thought exercise is to take that chat, and mentally substitute "Ghostcrawler" or "John Smedley" for "Rockjaw" then predict what people's reactions would have been if it had been a WoW or EQ/EQ2/PS/DCO/etc. chat instead of a Star Wars one.

[Soln]

It's important to note that you get social points for grouping even outside of flashpoints.  So if you had a regular teammate, you'd get social points for every quest.  THAT'S how you raise it.

So multi box FTW?  yeesh, that wasn't predictable.

[Sky]

I would so love to multibox this game 

[Threash]

It's important to note that you get social points for grouping even outside of flashpoints.  So if you had a regular teammate, you'd get social points for every quest.  THAT'S how you raise it.

So multi box FTW?  yeesh, that wasn't predictable.

Only if you count completely meaningless points "the win".