She's Crafty!

[Sky]

That's just crazy... everyone has orange or purple gear by 50. 

Your everyone...is not everyone. I've got half blues, and all my oranges are slotted with blues.

So. CRAZY!

But again, until level 41, I had great success with Armormech and was generally rolling in purples with Mako in all blues. I just hate to throw out all the money spent on recipes and all the recipes people have sent me or I've bought from GTN or looted; just to pick up Biochem. But I still might. I was hoping to kit out the entire crew in purples first, but I've gone on about RE enough already.

[Bunk]

My armstech is the queen of barrels and techblades. Being able to make blue barrels for myself is really quite nice

Especially when no one sells them on GTN

I do! And it makes me cash money! I tend to make aim ones because there always seems to be plenty of +cunning ones up for sale, but I know the troopers need a LOT of +aim barrels if they're keeping their companions up to date too. And techblades, of course, there's a captive market there.

I admit, I bought a lev 9 purple barrel last night for my new Trooper, just because at 1500cr, it just seemed silly not too.

[Nebu]

Your everyone...is not everyone. I've got half blues, and all my oranges are slotted with blues.

You can buy one orange piece with commendations about every zone if you don't get them as a reward for the bonus quest in that zone.  You can alternatively get them from pvp or flashpoints as well.  An orange from level 10 is still good at 50 with new mods.  I usually hit the commondations vendors in the Fleet to see if a zone has what I need.  Then I'll take commondations as the reward (instead of green gear) and buy armor/mods as needed.

Seems pretty easy to gear with oranges.  It's not that I'm doing anything fancy.

[Sky]

Nebs, orange isn't anything but a thing. The color of the mods is the thing. I didn't use but maybe one orange from 25-40 because purple non-orange items > an orange with blue mods.

Bunk, yay! Going to be a tough climb for my JG, since all my bankroll is on the Imperial side and I'm quite a way from having a ship on the Rep side.

[Nebu]

Nebs, orange isn't anything but a thing. The color of the mods is the thing. I didn't use but maybe one orange from 25-40 because purple non-orange items > an orange with blue mods.

You can buy mods from the Market too.  It's not like money has many other uses at 50.  Also, the ilum dailies give commondations for purple mods.  They're yummy.

I use pvp gear for pve until I get decent pve drops.  Then I just swap gear depending on need (wish there was a pvp/pve gear swap mechanism).

[Fordel]

I used quest greens and comm vendor items till 40.

At 40 I had a full PvP suit for me and my Companion that took me all the way to 50. The only thing I upgraded from 40-50 was my weapon from comm vendors whenever I could.

[Sky]

You can buy mods from the Market too.  It's not like money has many other uses at 50.  Also, the ilum dailies give commondations for purple mods.  They're yummy.

I use pvp gear for pve until I get decent pve drops.  Then I just swap gear depending on need (wish there was a pvp/pve gear swap mechanism).

I know all that. I was just refuting your assumption that 'everyone has orange or purple gear by 50'. I don't, mine is effectively all blue.

I don't pvp, I just got to Ilum a couple days ago (which was enough time to do one quest).

The point is, crafting is sort of viable for gear up to around 40, then it's pretty much garbage for a variety of reasons. But pre-40, it's the best way for casual players to get good gear, no need to run multiple FPs or pvp ad nauseum.

[Nebu]

The point is, crafting is sort of viable for gear up to around 40, then it's pretty much garbage for a variety of reasons. But pre-40, it's the best way for casual players to get good gear, no need to run multiple FPs or pvp ad nauseum.

I agree completely.  That's why I said paying 120k credits for a worthless level 49/50 recipe was crazy.  It makes gear that has almost no value.

[Furiously]

If you are not doing the ilum dailies the crafted stuff is pretty nice.

[Bunk]

Bunk, yay! Going to be a tough climb for my JG, since all my bankroll is on the Imperial side and I'm quite a way from having a ship on the Rep side.

I'm in the same boat. The only other character I have on the Republic side is a level 2 Smuggler. That 1500cr was about a third of my accumulated wealth.

[Threash]

You can put some white item for sale on the shared gtn for a lot of money and buy it with your cross side character.

[Bunk]

True, though due to the fact that I am stubbornly determined to get a purple above level nine on Synthweaving, I only have about 30k on my lev 33 Imperial.

[Nebu]

You can put some white item for sale on the shared gtn for a lot of money and buy it with your cross side character.

Is shared in Nar Shadda?  I need to transfer money to my Rep alts.

[Threash]

Yup.

[Nebu]

Thanks.  I have 3 Rep alts in Nar shadda and all are dirt poor. 

[Sky]

You can put some white item for sale on the shared gtn for a lot of money and buy it with your cross side character.

I'm quite a way from having a ship on the Rep side.

Not that I have a ton of money on Komoto, anyway (200k and dwindling fast). But at least I could open up some inventory slots.

I was hoping to use the terminals in the pvp region of Tatooine, but though you can get to the Rep terminal, you can't use it. Too bad, you're risking a ganking browsing the GTN there.

[Mrbloodworth]

Anyone know where to gather Mullinine? Rather not do the missions if possible.

[Ingmar]

Then your only option is the AH. Blue/purple crafting mats come from the missions only.

[Mrbloodworth]

  

[Raknor]

Although it does stuck that the purple recipe components come from the crafting missions, you can buy special "crafting missions" on the GTN.  Which guarantee you a few purple components

I've made a small fortune (over 2 mil) buying these from people that put them up for what ever the default price is on the GTN. I just check a few times a night for all the purple crafting missions level 340.  Be careful though, some of the lower level missions have the same icon as the top 340 ones.  I got burned by this twice in my haste to buy before the next guy. I've actually had the GTN say I bought them and then have the money come back in the mail saying the item was no longer available.

My personal example.  Treasure hunting (for artifice).  Purple missions default price is 4.3k.  It returns no less than 4 Coursca (sp?) gems that sell on server for 7k+, in addition to the other items: usually 8-10 blue crafting materials, a lock box with either 5-7k cash or a random level 50 blue and some other garbage that more than makes up the 4.3k price.  

I can turn those 4 Coursca(sp?) gems into one purple enhancement which sells for 50k or two focus/shield items (they use 2 each) which sell for 30-35k a piece.  I consider the rest of the items needed to make the item irrelevant since I run my guys on missions all the time just out of OCD and my bank is over flowing with crafting crap.  


** Fake edit.  I usually get 3-5 of these a night during the week. As many as 10 on the weekends.  I just check around the times people are heading to bed and cleaning out their inventory. 

[luckton]

Update on crafting stuffs


Translation: Ok, yeah, you guys really have been playing these MMOs longer than we have.  Our bad.  We'll try and change things up to make sense 

[Sjofn]

Right now I'd settle for them taking another pass at my enhancement recipes and removing the fucking doubles. And they really, really need to do it sooner rather than later.

[tmp]

As part of this effort, specifically for PvP, we are also working on changes that will reduce the gear related power difference between new characters at level 50 and players in full PvP gear. We feel that at the current time, this difference is too high.

Nice; better late than never.

[Lantyssa]

Right now I'd settle for them taking another pass at my enhancement recipes and removing the fucking doubles. And they really, really need to do it sooner rather than later.

I need to find a way to get the ear of the crafting devs to get my UI idea in their head.  It may not be the perfect system, but it'd really help the clutter and duplication.

[Threash]

The problem with the pvp gear is that you collect tier 1 and 2 at the same time, and tier 2 goes much faster.  You get a piece of champs every 4-5 bags, while cent takes upwards of 10 or more depending on how many champ pieces you get in those bags.

[Furiously]

I looked at tier one as a consolation prize or a way to fill in missing pieces. The whole valor 60 battlemaster tier three seems like it's there to make you invincible. In mostly tier two I am a pain to kill. Then again the stuff is like level 56.

[Fordel]

The two lines that kinda made me go  are the critical success on orange gear (which I assume means aug slots?) and the making augments more relevant.


Augments are already like, the most important piece of any piece of gear currently. The same item with an aug slot is virtually one tier above the item without it.

[Threash]

But since you can't use them in pvp gear or raiding gear then they really don't mean jack shit.  You might use a crafted piece here and there until you upgrade to raid or pvp gear, but right now augments mean nothing.  Orange gear with augment slots and being able to take out armoring from raid/pvp gear makes them extremely good though.

[Ingmar]

Augs on crafted oranges is huuuuuuuuuuuge.

[Threash]

And it so perfectly solves the whole "crafted vs raid/pvp" gear issue too, now the best items will be crafted orange gear with raid/pvp armoring.

[Fordel]

I'm going to be very sad to give up my level 40 pvp suit :(

[Sky]

By the time I get a few alts up to 50, this game will be in pretty good shape. Awesome! 

Wait, I mean it will fail because they utterly don't understand mmo and rawr austin and mmo is a failed genre because FARMVILLE.

Sorry, wrong thread. Didn't want to interrupt the flow.

Orange crits is a great gift to crafters, crafted oranges will be in demand, especially as so many have abandoned armor/synth/arms. Even on my two new guys I grabbed bio because of the state of the listed crafts. I can still grouse about the end game item balance, but it's a step in the right direction.

Increased RE chances: about goddamned time. It only takes hitting the wall once (ok twice) to give it up completely.

[Ingmar]

A consumable crafted thingy that would let me put an aug slot onto my existing oranges would be nice, but maybe counter productive for their goal.

[Sky]

A consumable crafted thingy that would let me put an aug slot onto my existing oranges would be nice, but maybe counter productive for their goal.

A chance to RE an orange for the schematic would be nice. Expensive and/or grindy, but nice.

[Sjofn]

I'm torn on the OJ aug slot thing just because I already like how my sage looks. If the robe she's wearing doesn't have a crafted oj equivlient (and I don't think it does, at least not yet), it means I have to dress in something I like less, and that is disappointing.