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Paelos
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I, for one, enjoyed the movie far more than the book. The writing style (yes, I realize the intended audience is young adult) way too sophomoric and riddled with numerous plot absurdities.
I read all the books. The style grated on me the whole way as well. The second book in particular might as well not exist. As much as people didn't like 3 for going completely off the rails, two just seemed like a complete do over of book 1. |
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It felt to me like Jennifer Lawrence was asked to remain relatively emotionless so that they could add narration and use the Kuleshov_Effect to make her look brilliant... and then somebody vetoed the narration at the last moment and they didn't have time to re-edit her scenes other than by cutting them. Most of the time she comes off as bored or slightly pissed rather than afraid, determined, or deeply moved. It's very hard to connect with her as a character. Also the ending was terrible. Sure, the undead human/dog hybrids from the book are probably unfilmable... so better to cut them entirely than to make weird unexplained CG dogs. A simple confrontation with established characters would have had a lot more narrative weight. The book is over-rated too, but at least it has a running inner monologue to make Katniss sympathetic. |
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Basically, the "children fight each other" theme is mostly a question of what you are trying to say either about: a) human beings or b) the society that supports children fighting each other.
In Lord of the Flies, since there isn't a society that is egging kids on, the statement is about human beings in general: that they will fight each other even as children if there are no rules. Basically Hobbes.
In Battle Royale, it's about "what if Japan gave into its fascistic tendencies?"
In Hunger Games, it's "This is where American society and its class politics is heading".
In part if you like any or all of these, it's because you find the message or argument at least interesting or valid and maybe think it's sharpened by presentation in a format where you feel a certain voyeuristic thrill in the narrative action of the combat or struggle even when you think you shouldn't.
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Jennifer Lawrence didn't even look good in Hunger Games :( I had forgotten she was in it by the time I saw Silver Linings Playbook and she had become America's new Sweetheart.
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Jennifer Lawrence didn't even look good in Hunger Games :( I had forgotten she was in it by the time I saw Silver Linings Playbook and she had become America's new Sweetheart.
She has a very unique facial bone structure which wasn't complemented by the super tight camera angles the director was partial to using. She is stealthily busty, so that made up for much of it  |
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She is stealthily busty
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She is stealthily busty
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Biggest problem I had with the movie was the casting on the male lead. I'm pretty sure we were supposed to believe that she fell for him during the course of events, but I couldn't get over the fact that he came across as a whiny douche with a Justin Bieber haircut. If the audience doesn't buy the romance between your leads, your movie has a problem.
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Paelos
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Biggest problem I had with the movie was the casting on the male lead. I'm pretty sure we were supposed to believe that she fell for him during the course of events, but I couldn't get over the fact that he came across as a whiny douche with a Justin Bieber haircut. If the audience doesn't buy the romance between your leads, your movie has a problem.
To be fair, I barely bought the romance in the book either. It was pretty ham-fisted. |
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To continue to be fair, there wasn't meant to be any real romance in the books. That was part of the 'conflict.'
Even by the end of the last book,
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Love the books, loved the movie, can't wait for the next one. I love YA and NA in general though, particularly angsty first person stuff.
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Biggest problem I had with the movie was the casting on the male lead. I'm pretty sure we were supposed to believe that she fell for him during the course of events, but I couldn't get over the fact that he came across as a whiny douche with a Justin Bieber haircut. If the audience doesn't buy the romance between your leads, your movie has a problem.
I thought we were supposed to believe she pretended to fall for him in order to get the audience onside, but secretly has the hots for that jerk she was hanging with at the start. I guess the problem is terrible acting competing with terrible plotting. Oh well. |
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Biggest problem I had with the movie was the casting on the male lead. I'm pretty sure we were supposed to believe that she fell for him during the course of events, but I couldn't get over the fact that he came across as a whiny douche with a Justin Bieber haircut. If the audience doesn't buy the romance between your leads, your movie has a problem.
I thought we were supposed to believe she pretended to fall for him in order to get the audience onside, but secretly has the hots for that jerk she was hanging with at the start. I guess the problem is terrible acting competing with terrible plotting. Oh well. Yeah....this. I think they come out and literally say that she has no real feelings of romance for blondie at all aside from on camera stuff. There are a couple scenes after the games end that demonstrate this as well. |
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She is stealthily busty
Ain't that the truth. Well now, that is no longer stealthy. I just wanted to post that pic again. WOW. |
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It felt to me like Jennifer Lawrence was asked to remain relatively emotionless so that they could add narration and use the Kuleshov_Effect to make her look brilliant... and then somebody vetoed the narration at the last moment and they didn't have time to re-edit her scenes other than by cutting them. Most of the time she comes off as bored or slightly pissed rather than afraid, determined, or deeply moved. It's very hard to connect with her as a character. Also the ending was terrible. Sure, the undead human/dog hybrids from the book are probably unfilmable... so better to cut them entirely than to make weird unexplained CG dogs. A simple confrontation with established characters would have had a lot more narrative weight. The book is over-rated too, but at least it has a running inner monologue to make Katniss sympathetic. I rather like a more stoic performance. It's certainly part of my problem with the new Star Trek movies, where Spock is a Vulcan supressing his emotions except when he's FREAKING THE FUCK OUT! Which he seems to manage at least once per movie to let us know he's simmering with logical angst. |
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shiznitz
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She is stealthily busty
Ain't that the truth. That video makes me want to sign somethings... |
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Amazing how talent and a great body can overcome an average face.
Is this movie out on video now? I've never seen it.
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Is this movie out on video now?
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Amazing how talent and a great body can overcome an average face.
Is this movie out on video now? I've never seen it.
Should be. It is streaming on Netflix, which generally means it is available on physical media. I would imagine it would be hitting the pay cable channels sometime soon as well. |
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Is this movie out on video now?
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I laughed. Jerks.
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Hey, I knew exactly what you meant and didn't even think about it.
Soooo old.
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At least he didn't say "VHS" like some folks I know still do.
Then again I know guys who didn't own DVD players until 3 years ago. Kentucky is weird.
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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At least he didn't say "VHS" like some folks I know still do.
Then again I know guys who didn't own DVD players until 3 years ago. Kentucky is weird.
My mother skipped DVD completely, she got by with her VHS until my daughter moved in with her and brought her media player. She was surprised to find out there were about a hundred movies and a couple of hundred TV episodes in a box the size of a hardcover book (my daughter got my old media player from a few years back, half a terabyte but a fairly large case). --Dave |
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Less nerd talk more pics of Jennifer Lawrence.   |
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I love the expressions of the people around her, especially whoever that is sitting beside her.
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Rishathra
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It does make me curious about what was happening. Everyone else seems to be either shocked, annoyed, or freaked out about whatever is going on. I only watched this gif about forty or fifty times before noticing it, but it's there!
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It does make me curious about what was happening. Everyone else seems to be either shocked, annoyed, or freaked out about whatever is going on. I only watched this gif about forty or fifty times before noticing it, but it's there!
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BWAHAHAHAHA, that makes the gif even better.
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You all are going to laugh at me, but I never new Seth voiced so many of his characters.
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Evildrider
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You all are going to laugh at me, but I never new Seth voiced so many of his characters.
Although he can be kinda lazy about his jokes and gags in Family Guy, that man is pretty damn talented. |
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