Mechwarrior Online

[Sir T]

Please tell us more! 

[Ironwood]

What's to tell ?

If you paid more cash to these clowns, you got Mechs that will enable you to compete at this new level.  If you didn't, you're probably getting either righteously fucked or you occasionally drop in to a group that knows asshole from elbow and squeeze out a win.

The Mech lab is still utter shite.  Confusing and horrendous as previously discussed.

It crashes.  It jerks.  It had one game today where everyone disconned except for 3 chaps who went around shooting all the stationary targets only to find that nothing was registering due to the high lag, so all 3 of us just quit.

It's a fucking shitshow of a game run by a fucking shitshow of a company and, frankly, it could have been so much fucking more, but once again HardCore Fucking in the ass.

I can see WHY Falc might have thought the beta was great because everyone was betaing at the same level and learning the same shit and were walking around in nice shiny looking Timberwolves.

But now it's released it changes precisely DICK.  It's the Same Fucking Game and if you Fall For It again, hell mend you.

Once everyone's figured out WHICH Clan weapons fuck you up, it's going to be right back to Uber/cookie cutter builds and I ain't hanging around for it.

Fuck this game in the lughole.

[Samprimary]

I am giving it a spin.

I'm driving the same old Rhino Stalker, getting up in the faces of Dire Wolves and beating them all to hell. It's fun! And I can just see already it's cause people don't know shit yet about how to leverage clan tech for its probably soon to be deduced obvious supremacy.

[Falconeer]

Not sirbrucing, just using quotes to address the different issues more efficiently (which is probably what sirbrucing means  )

The Mech lab is still utter shite.  Confusing and horrendous as previously discussed.

I agree 100%. Pathetic.

It crashes.  It jerks.  It had one game today where everyone disconned except for 3 chaps who went around shooting all the stationary targets only to find that nothing was registering due to the high lag, so all 3 of us just quit.

Never seen this happen before. Never have a crash myself, which doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but I've never been in a game with more than two disconnections out of twentyfour players. Never had more than 140 ping by playing across the ocean. No idea what was going on there, but it sounds accidental and rare.

It's a fucking shitshow of a game run by a fucking shitshow of a company and, frankly, it could have been so much fucking more, but once again HardCore Fucking in the ass.

Again, agree 100%, but at the end of the day that is in your head. When you drop in a game, you either have fun or you don't. The wasted potential can only frustrate you up to a point (or during lunch break, at work).

I can see WHY Falc might have thought the beta was great because everyone was betaing at the same level and learning the same shit and were walking around in nice shiny looking Timberwolves.

But now it's released it changes precisely DICK.  It's the Same Fucking Game and if you Fall For It again, hell mend you.

I don't really know what to say here. I played about twenty games yesterday in my Hunchback and ended up with a slightly positive record. And I am not a good player. Of course it's the Same Fucking Game, the same fucking game a bunch of us loved a couple of years ago. If you didn't like it before you are not gonna like it now. But if you liked it back then and you hate it now then I really don't know. Is it Ghost heat? That's the only meaningful change I can think of since August 2012. Other than that it's the same fucking game you used to like.

[Ironwood]

Arg.

That's fine.  I had a huge big rebuttal here, but what's the point.

Maybe it's just me.

[Falconeer]

I am giving it a spin.

I'm driving the same old Rhino Stalker, getting up in the faces of Dire Wolves and beating them all to hell. It's fun! And I can just see already it's cause people don't know shit yet about how to leverage clan tech for its probably soon to be deduced obvious supremacy.

Dire Wolves are terrifying, but they are the slowest 'mechs in the whole game, they have the narrowest torso twist in the whole game, and can't really spread damage by twisting as they have to face you pretty much the whole time they are shooting at you. A IS light 'mech positioned behing a Dire Wolf is basically guaranteed to kill it without any chance for that 100 tons monster to fight back, it simply can't turn fast enough.
 
That's an interesting concept behind the Clan 'mechs. For the most part, the longest laser burntime and the streaming AutoCannons and LRMs force them to face their targets more than the IS counterparts. As a result, they have more offense but less defense. Not sure if that will ever come out balanced (I doubt it) but it's a nice try.

[Falconeer]

Arg.

That's fine.  I had a huge big rebuttal here, but what's the point.

Maybe it's just me.

Look, I would probably agree with 70% of your rebuttals. I just don't understand how the core game has aged so badly, for you and the others. It is probably me actually.

[Goreschach]

The nova with the 12 small lasers looks cute. Not sure how many cbills it'll cost once it's in the mech shop, but I might try it out eventually. Not even bothering to play now.

[Samprimary]

Dire Wolves are terrifying, but they are the slowest 'mechs in the whole game, they have the narrowest torso twist in the whole game, and can't really spread damage by twisting as they have to face you pretty much the whole time they are shooting at you. A IS light 'mech positioned behing a Dire Wolf is basically guaranteed to kill it without any chance for that 100 tons monster to fight back, it simply can't turn fast enough.
 
That's an interesting concept behind the Clan 'mechs. For the most part, the longest laser burntime and the streaming AutoCannons and LRMs force them to face their targets more than the IS counterparts. As a result, they have more offense but less defense. Not sure if that will ever come out balanced (I doubt it) but it's a nice try.

I am dedicated to the assault mech mentality. I understand how your pacing and placement with an assault has to revolve around momentum and deliberation. People in dire wolves right now are waltzing around corners and into lines of fire they can't easily rescind on, and I see it, so I remove them for being unworthy. dezgra, stavrag, etc

But at the same time I realize that once I come across a dire wolf that knows what the fuck they're doing, I'm going to get exterminated like the rodent I am because the Daishi hardpoint setups and clan weaponry are absolutely, completely superior.

[Ironwood]

The autocannons are the top notch in dakka dakka technology.

[Sir T]

I don't think the core game has aged at all to be honest, and that's not peoples problem. I have had a blast when I log on for a few games of pew pew. However, the BS around the core game is what has gotten peoples noses up. And after a few games you start noticing the BS more and more.

I mean jump sniping could be fixed tomorrow. Hi your aiming goes all over the place during your entire jump not just when your JJs are firing. There, fixed. Was that so fucking hard? The whole long range sniping thing is not so easy to fix, but then I've never had that much of a problem with it either.

[Falconeer]

I mean jump sniping could be fixed tomorrow. Hi your aiming goes all over the place during your entire jump not just when your JJs are firing. There, fixed. Was that so fucking hard?

I am with you 100% about that. And they actually did it, remember? Exactly like that. And somehow, for the first and last time ever, fucking PGI listened to the loud minority and changed it back after two weeks with the excuse that lots were claiming to have seizures due to the crosshair shake. FUCKING PLEASE. See? That really gets me mad again, just to think about it. I really loved those 14 days during which jump sniping was simply not possible.

[Ironwood]

Even Aiming should be subject to random, in my opinion.  Cone Fire Bitch.

[Hoax]

Yeah, I said that, anyone who played Solaris or MPBT3025 said that. You need to create uniform hitbox sizes and you need a cone of fire otherwise the default heat/damage/range values aren't fair at all. PGI decided to re-write those values 400 times for each one and invent incredibly stupid fucking shit like ghost heat instead of doing it right, from the beginning, one time.

Fuck them.

They got cone of fire wrong. They got hit boxes wrong. They got collision wrong. They got walking through trees wrong. They got sliding and falling down hills wrong. They got heat penalties so wrong it makes my vision go red.

[Merusk]

It's ok. You won't take any internal damage for another 6 months. Then another 3 before it becomes something to be concerned about.

[Ironwood]

Yeah, I said that, anyone who played Solaris or MPBT3025 said that.

Yeah, I know.  I just like bitching about this game.

Had some fun in my Trebuchet last night.  I'm really ping-ponging between the OP of the Clan mechs and then watching So Many Fucking Bad Pilots in them.

I swear to God, some asshole in a Warhawk and he couldn't hit SHIT.  It was embarrassing to watch.

[Falconeer]

Community Competitive Event.

Really curious to see how this goes. Note that it is 10 Clan 'mechs vs. 12 IS 'mechs.

The Clans vs. The Inner sphere
22Jun14 @ 1600 EDT.

To celebrate the arrival of the clan mechs and the exciting new content to MechWarrior Online. The Templar Mercenary Corps is putting on a one day Clan vs. Inner Sphere event!!

Format:

10 vs.12 Clan v. Inner Sphere. IS drop deck is limited and must have 8 unique chassis. Clans cannot use strikes. Round Robin (IS vs Clan), Best 2 of Three Drops. All Maps are Random.. Best 2 teams,(1 Clan, 1 IS), in a championship round.

Drop 1: Conquest; 550T
Drop 2: Skirmish; 720T
Drop 3: Random Game Mode; Clans pick Tonnage

[Sir T]

Played a bit last night, as I found out they were offering the Original 4 mechs (Atlas, Catapult, and 2 others) ar half price, so I decided to complete my Catapult collection with the C1. I also played a bit with my Raven 4X, and I think this is the game where I saw what a bunch of clanners with a clue can do, because there were more clanners on my side in that game, An Atlas walked around a corner, I locked it up for everyone and suddenly it was covered in green beams from 1/4 way across the map. Needless to say the Atlas went down. My team won 12-2. Ouch.

Yeah, pretty inane update. I also saw in glbal clanners typing the immortal phrase "IS mechs still are viable... They have faster more maneuverable mechs..." Yeah, BS.

[Falconeer]

And smaller Center Torsos. That's true.

Anyway, the real problem is the 2 Gauss + 2 PPC Dire Wolf. There are ways to counter it, but if you don't do it fast it unleashaes a consistent amount of very long range 50 pinpoint damage alphas. Bleargh.

Anyway, the moment the infamous 3/3/3/3 will get in, if ever, things will get better. At the moment there's too many heavies and assault. Too much firepower on the field.

[Ironwood]

The only thing keeping it remotely level at the moment is the skill.

Seriously, get into a game and pod yourself early.  Then spectate at what these chucklefucks that dropped hundreds on these mechs can do.  It's fucking clownshoes of the highest order.  Half of them can't hit for shit.

I did, however, watch a group of 4 wolves who dropped together and who WORKED together just fucking take apart everything.  It was brutal.

[Samprimary]

And smaller Center Torsos. That's true.

Anyway, the real problem is the 2 Gauss + 2 PPC Dire Wolf. There are ways to counter it, but if you don't do it fast it unleashaes a consistent amount of very long range 50 pinpoint damage alphas. Bleargh.

good lord.

Only with the clans could you outfit your mech with a long range 50 pinpoint alpha and then also just be all like 'meh i'll also bring four er medium lasers along just in case'

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=171&l=2639718d3b331935d968f0fe68a0ae9bd9bed4d4

[Samprimary]

this is also patently ridiculous just to show you could strip off one of those uac10's and prime on a bunch of cooling.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=173&l=197f9ecd7905dae56c35e35b28ef82ec66d1da37

[Ironwood]

The Dire Wolf has so many fucking weapons, you can't even find them all, never mind fire them all.

 

[Falconeer]

Mind Blown.








Watch the damn video. You can even change the weaponry on it.

http://reversedisabled.blogspot.co.uk/

[satael]

That Yen Low Wang looks really great 

[Samprimary]

I can see it happening in advance.

"IS LANCES > CLAN LANCES" (during the initial learning period)

then

"DON'T BRING IS TO A COMPETITIVE MATCH SHITBRAIN" (during the discovery that clan mechs are clan mechs)

[taolurker]

Worth logging into this for the free mech bay and premium time.

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/161961-complimentary-premium-time-and-mech-bay/

[Sir T]

I can see it happening in advance.

"IS LANCES > CLAN LANCES" (during the initial learning period)

then

"DON'T BRING IS TO A COMPETITIVE MATCH SHITBRAIN" (during the discovery that clan mechs are clan mechs)

I said that would happen months ago.

[Samprimary]

Yeah. Now the question is to find out at last how much of a comical divide we can have between stalwart IS defenders' version of things, versus ... well, clan mechs being clan mechs.

[Falconeer]

More data and analysis here.

[Ironwood]

The Stalker still does very well with Large Lasers.  I doubt that it's solely LRM stats.

[Sir T]

Seconded on the LL stalker. The Misery can pack a wallop close range if you stick an AC 20 on it as well, though I run mine with an LBX-10 for now.

[Samprimary]

oh snap. large laser stalker's back?

four or six lasers?

[Merusk]

Four never went away while I was playing. Granted it's been almost 9 months since I uninstalled.

[Falconeer]

You can even use the 6 one if you really want but it's inefficient since you have to stagger-fire by 0.5 secs now, so 3 groups of 2LL (with no Ghost Heat penalty) or 2 groups of 3LL (with a bearable Ghost Heat penalty if you are not in melee range).