Mechwarrior Online

[Falconeer]

Yeah, seems to me that as opposed to plenty of other times, "we the founders" totally feel like supporting the project to any silly extent this time, including respecting every single bit of their rule of silence. Probably because Piranha Games is not a big ass of a company so it doesn't feel like a huge fuckin marketing scam, and probably because what they are doing feels way better than robot jesus (which would probably be a lousy light 'mech) and we don't want to jinx it in any way.

That said, here's the Bat Country "official" thread, so we can at least meet up in game. This is all 100% by the rules and NDA-observant.

[Pennilenko]

If that is the case, I'd rather not join in.  These chaps have asked me to adhere to an NDA and as far as I'm concerned I've had my actual monies worth a million times over.

If they feel it'll help their game become a reality, I'm keeping my mouth shut.  Especially since Trippy asked also.

This is my sentiment.

[Lantyssa]

It's also somewhat different in that one doesn't have to put down money to play.  Doing so just gets guaranteed access to closed beta.  There should still be an open beta later.

[Falconeer]

New Dev Blog out.

Also, remember that today is the last day to get a Founder package hence a founder 'mech.

[Ironwood]

What the hell does the recent developer update actually mean ?

That's a lot of words for, er, not very much..

http://mwomercs.com/news/2012/08/380-developer-update-august-7th

[Evildrider]

If you are a founder all of your founder stuff will be activated.  You'll get all the perks that are coming to you. 
 I'm assuming since we will be getting our MC points that they are doing the same thing that GW2 did with their store and anything you spend you get reimbursed when the game hits open beta.

Open beta is actually what founder will consider as "launch" meaning anything we get from that point on is ours for good.

[Merusk]

Yeah, you'll get nice and used to the premium credit and XP gain as a founder and the clock won't start ticking until the game is fully live.

As of tomorrow you'll be awarded your founders mechs, so you'll get to play with them unlike right now.

It also sounds like they won't be wiping the pilot XP until Open beta happens, so all your mech perks will carry through until then.

At every patch they WILL wipe your mech garage and restore your "Gold" (MC) points so you have to rebuy mechs and they're encouraging you to use new mechs and loadouts instead of always falling in to the rut of using the same ones.  (Which would be even more encouraged if they wiped mech xp and converted it all to free xp)

They extended the ability to buy the founders mechs out indefinitely.

"Closed beta" means xyz.

Open beta will happen at some unspecified future date.  There will be one, final, pilot, Credit, Mech and MC reset when Open Beta happens.  All purchase decisions you make after this point are final to your account.

[Falconeer]

Interestingly enough, there's no real difference between "Open Beta" and "Final Release". The last reset will be when the game hits open beta, and the clock on the Premium account will start ticking at the same time. By the time the game gets into Official Release you might have spent all your money and Premium days, and you won't get a reset or a refund. So basically, regardless of what they call it internally, Open Beta _is_ the Official Launch. Nothing wrong with that, it's just important to know it.

EDIT: Do not forget to accept friends invitations.

[Pennilenko]

Almost exactly the game plan that went on with Tribes Ascend.

[Gets]

I see they optimized dual core performance finally, which is nice, but I still can't find any fun or stickiness in this game.

[Der Helm]

So. This is my hardware at the moment. (Feel free to laugh)

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E7200  @ 2.53GHz (2C 2.53GHz, 3MB L2)

NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT (64 SM4.0 1.7GHz/1.63GHz 7% OC, 512MB DDR3 1.9GHz 5% OC 256-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)

I am rocking 4 GB of DDR2 RAM 

This may or may not run the game, there may or may not be lockups when to much is going on on the screen.

I have 2 upgrade options at the moment.

New and more RAM
Kingston HyperX DIMM Kit 4GB PC2-8500U CL5-5-5-15 (DDR2-1066) (KHX8500D2K4/4G)

or a new (cheap) graphic card
Radeon HD6670 1024MB DDR3 PCI-E 128bit

Any advice ?

[Trippy]

Both. But if you can only get one get the graphics card and just make sure you close your other apps before playing games like MWO.

[Der Helm]

Order sent. Thanks Trippy. 

[Falconeer]

Posted Today, 03:44 PM

I am not of Bat Country, however I am amused by your tenacity and you have earned my respect. Should I see you on the field I shall salute you before we engage. Good day, fellow Mechwarrior.

 

[Ironwood]

[UnSub]

I believe that is the official Bat Country salute.

[Ghambit]

Y'know, the forum warz MAY just be worth it for this title given the persistence.  Something I haven't thought of.

[satael]

Due to recent overwhelming demand, the Founder's Program will continue to be made available beyond August 7th. Cut-off timing for the Founder's Program offer will be announced at a later date.

Guess they didn't sell enough founder packs yet 

[Ironwood]

Or they did.

[Falconeer]

I think the whole "before Aug 7th" was just some commercial bull. Seriously, why in hell should you close the doors to people wanting to fund your yet unreleased project? I think they knew all along that they were going to prolong that time, but needed to see how the buyers were going to react at the idea of a deadline. They needed a preorder milestone, for metrics and all and to count the money, so they "lied" about it.

That said, I am not angry in the slightest. prolonging the time doesn't take anything away from me and if anything will just give them more money which means a healthier development.

[Evildrider]

The Founder's packs were made because of people on the forums asking for some way to show the game support.  Also there have been quite a few posts asking them to prolong the length of time to buy the program. 

I really don't care, it's a small company trying to make money and building a pretty decent game.  If they get more cash, more power to them.

[Ironwood]

Seriously, why in hell should you close the doors to people wanting to fund your yet unreleased project?

This bears repeating.

[Arthur_Parker]

MechWarriorF2P

IGN Prime Member? IGN Prime Members get early access to the Closed Beta. Redeem your key by August 9th. http://ow.ly/cNTV0

IGN prime members can now get into the beta, cheaper way of doing it.

[satael]

I bought the elite pack and do not regret it but I still feel somewhat concerned whenever someone uses words like "a limited one-time chance" and that becomes extended indefinately.

[Evildrider]

MechWarriorF2P

IGN Prime Member? IGN Prime Members get early access to the Closed Beta. Redeem your key by August 9th. http://ow.ly/cNTV0

IGN prime members can now get into the beta, cheaper way of doing it.

I'd rather just buy a founder's pack then give IGN money.   

[Merusk]

I bought the elite pack and do not regret it but I still feel somewhat concerned whenever someone uses words like "a limited one-time chance" and that becomes extended indefinately.

It's foolish business to cut it off too early if you think you're going to be in beta for a while yet.  I suspect the huge number of Founders packs sold (is there anyone on their forums that doesn't have one?) let them push that date a little farther out and stabilize things before going truly live.  (And gives them time to fix non-technical  issues.)

That said, I bought the $120 pack and don't regret it.  I've bought 3 premiums in WOT (A $3 one, a $35 one and a $50 one) in addition to about $40 worth of to gold so I can buy garage slots and convert xp on elite tanks to free xp.   That puts me at about the same amount as a founder's pack and I'm getting as much fun out of the buggy and incomplete MWO as I have been out of WOT.   

[Megrim]

Seriously, why in hell should you close the doors to people wanting to fund your yet unreleased project?

This bears repeating.

I see no bears. You said there would be bears. Where are the bears?

[Evildrider]

[Ingmar]

MechWarriorF2P

IGN Prime Member? IGN Prime Members get early access to the Closed Beta. Redeem your key by August 9th. http://ow.ly/cNTV0

IGN prime members can now get into the beta, cheaper way of doing it.

I'd rather just buy a founder's pack then give IGN money.   

A-fuckin'-men.

[Falconeer]

Gets, are you playing with the Goons?

[Amaron]

Due to recent overwhelming demand, the Founder's Program will continue to be made available beyond August 7th. Cut-off timing for the Founder's Program offer will be announced at a later date.

Guess they didn't sell enough founder packs yet 

I believe my avatar explains everything here.

[5150]

I fear I may yet upgrade to the $120 package now that they have essentially enabled you to spread the payments.

My reservations are that for double the money you are only really getting 3 more mechs (ok and an extra month of premium) since the in game currancy stays the same ($80 worth) and none of remaining 3 mechs (i.e. not the Atlas) are on my shopping list.

What would swing me firmly into the upgrade camp is knowing how much repairs will cost, as having other 'free' mechs would allow you to keep playing/earning in the even you cant afford to repair your 'main' mech. But I find it hard to imagine the system will let you bankrupt yourself with a string of heavy losses (or maybe the presence of a cash shop means it will.......)

[Ironwood]

Aye, it'd be interesting to know how they intend to manage that.

I guess having the mech repair naturally over time would work. 

How does the Tanks game do it ?

[angry.bob]

Aye, it'd be interesting to know how they intend to manage that.

I guess having the mech repair naturally over time would work.  

How does the Tanks game do it ?

Each tank has a repair cost per hitpoint of damage done to it. You don't have to repair it to use it in another match unless it's destroyed, but it keps all the damage it had. So X ammount of damage = X ammount of credits, no free healing over time. Lower levels you pretty much always make enough to cover repairseach map, even if the tank is destroyed. High levels that seems to flip unless you kill a couple tanks in the match.Premium accounts make more money each match so they cover repairs more easily.
At least That's how it appears to work, I've never bothered to hunt up the official system rules.

[Merusk]

The following is how it plays out on a free account:

Lower-tier tanks are almost always earners.  You play a game, even if you don't shoot anyone and get blown-up you come out ahead.  (Maybe only like 200 credits, but you're still ahead)  That only covers like tier 1 & 2 though.

About tier 3/4 this changes and you have to actually hit things to make money.  Repair costs still don't exceed income if you get blown-up.

This changes again at about tier 7/8.  You have to stay alive and make good shots to make money.  Repair costs if you're blown-up are likely going to cause a loss unless you've killed 2-3 other tanks before then.  It's likely a wash in that case, unless you used more than 2 shells per kill.

I'm not in to tier 9/ 10 yet.  I hear those are always losses in income unless you dominate by not blowing-up and are good at damaging shots.

On a premium (sub) account, I understand you're almost always earning.  Unless you're in the upper tiers, fire a bunch of shots that hit nothing and then get blown-up.

Premium tanks (cash money, not in-game xp and credits) are always earners.   You have to really TRY to lose money in them.   Terrible as I am, I make 20-30k per match even if I don't blow up any other tanks.


Now, I've heard some guys complain that they're broke and on their last tank so if they don't make any money they're fucked.  No idea how that can happen and they were likely just trolling.  

If it does happen, though, you can always sell one of your upper level tanks and buy a lower-tier tank to earn some credits.    My tier 8s only cost 9k to repair if blown-up.  However, if you suck SO BAD that you've run out of money.. you might want to reconsider playing at that upper tier.

Failing any of that you can convert Gold (real money currency) into credits at a rate of 1:400.