Borderlands 2

[Nerf]

I... don't get it?

Same here, my brain is fried to the point that it envies the eggs from the "your brain on drugs" commercials, but I just can't even begin to comprehend how that does anything, or how it would work on any other boss.

[Segoris]

I had edited out something and forgot to put in a key piece, I"ll just start over and this should break it down and explain better:

[Bunk]

Since no one has mentioned it yet - they released the first DLC missions yesterday. Pirate Themed!

Now I just have to power a character through to 30 to play it (I restart too often).

[Nerf]

If you beat the warrior in someone else's game at any time after starting playthrough 2, you will break your own and the scaling of all quests/areas/etc to 50 for 2.5 won't happen, or at best, happen randomly.  Yes, even if you were already at 50 when the warrior went down.  Tons of posts on gearbox tech forums about it, and not a peep from them on a fix or even acknowledgement of the problem.

Welp, didn't want that mechromancer anyway.

[Yegolev]

If you beat the warrior in someone else's game at any time after starting playthrough 2, you will break your own and the scaling of all quests/areas/etc to 50 for 2.5 won't happen, or at best, happen randomly.  Yes, even if you were already at 50 when the warrior went down.  Tons of posts on gearbox tech forums about it, and not a peep from them on a fix or even acknowledgement of the problem.

blarg

[Fabricated]

I haven't bothered with Terramorphus yet; is it pointless alone without broken-ass guns?

[Segoris]

I think it is possible but really damn hard if solo without abusing overpowered gun+bee combos to a point of just not being worth it. Though that is also if you don't want to stand at a certain area which blocks most projectiles from his tentacles and tricks him into coming out of the ground in spots that are almost always safe for you so you don't even have to move. If you don't mind borderline exploiting of terrain then that is a way to do it with weaker weapon

[statisticalfool]

Anarchy gets way fun once you get Discord: being able to burn off 30 or 40 stacks of discord to become a regenerating machine, then going back to anarchy is pretty great. Make sure you put at least one point very early into the "regenerate health when at full magazine": it means you can switch to a full gun while running around to regen, and then back to your main anarchy-builder.  Dying is pretty much miserable though.

It's definitely a style for when you've got a nice chunk of time to build up anarchy.

[Rendakor]

Just finished my first playthrough; played 90% of it solo as Zer0, but had a friend come in as the commando for the last hour or so. There were a lot of fights that were just really, really painful as a sniper-specced character due to how their mechanics worked.
Any other Zer0s have some advice on what to do solo in fights like these?

Going to give the Pirate stuff a whirl tomorrow; I've got it installed already since I grabbed the season pass.

Fake edit: If you're in last stand mode and not in combat, you should just get the fuck back up. So many deaths were because I killed the only mob left and it's last hit/ticking DoT puts me in last stand.

[Soulflame]

Heh, Zer0 just seems painful if you're sniper spec, with nothing to hide behind


I'm tempted to beat the first playthrough as Zer0, mostly because I'm pretty close to the end, then switch to another class to see if the other classes are more durable or whatever.

[Ard]

[Nerf]

The new raid boss mob is a fucking beast.  If it's not impossible to solo I'lll be surprised.  After about 10 tries I couldn't even down one of his minions.  The Bee+anything seems pretty worthless, and the minions appear to be resistant to every single element, even explosive.  Melee hurts em tho, will try some more tomorrow.

[Rendakor]

Yea Soulflame I'm probably going to reroll before continuing into the second playthrough as well; I'm torn between building an invincible Gunzerker or a pet-focused Mechromancer (I don't get the appeal of Anarchy at all).

Edit: i no cn spll gud

[Nerf]

The appeal of anarchy is that with a high count/spread weapon (shotgun, various orange others), and especially conference call (even without The Bee), you can do an absolute fuckton of damage regardless of where you aim from all the ricochet rounds.  With the orange terramorphous mecrho class mod, you can have 450 stacks of anarchy, that's (450*1.7%) +756 damage before you even take into account any other modifiers, and with a shotgun like Conference Call you've got hundreds of bullets ricocheting everywhere every shot.  In enclosed spaces, a couple shots fills the entire room with bullets and just destroys everything.

The rest of the Anarchy tree is balls though, the +x% shields per kill but lose x/20% health in particular makes you waaaaaaaaay too squishy, and the final skill that gives you a melee attack at a cost of 1 anarchy per swing is pretty worthless too.  It seems like maxing out the BFF tree and throwing enough into anarchy for discord, and the rest for ricochet/etc is the best bet.

[Nerf]

Solo'd Hyperius on my 2nd attempt tonight, once I switched to law+order him and his minions just melted.  I was feeling pretty smug thinking I just took out the new DLC raid boss until I turned in the quest and there was another "kill ____ the invincible" waiting for me.

Pretty sure that Master Gee is actually fucking invincible.  I've yet to even damage his shields.

[apocrypha]

Sad to say that the terrible loot drop rates in this game killed my interest in it completely as soon as I finished my first playthrough.

Making a shooter feel grindy is a sure way to suck the fun out for me.

[TheWalrus]

Blink. Although I will say I seem to find better drops solo than with my friend, but he's always been bad luck.

[Bunk]

Sad to say that the terrible loot drop rates in this game killed my interest in it completely as soon as I finished my first playthrough.

Making a shooter feel grindy is a sure way to suck the fun out for me.

Huh, really?

At level 27 I've found 4 random oranges, spaced throughout my levels, and currently more purples than I can carry. I've done next to no repeating of content - just diligently completing every side quest I can.

[Lantyssa]

Other than that level 8 orange drop, and Moxxi giving me a nice level 35 SMG, my drops have been pretty lousy.  It felt like there was a lot better spread of drops and vendor items in the first game.

[01101010]

These timed side quests suck ass. Getting into/out of your ride takes 5-6 seconds off the clock right there. Arms Dealer pretty much killed any thought of doing any of the timed stuff.

Those arenas though are pretty fun.

I have found 3 oranges so far, a sniper rifle for lvl 9ish that adds fire, but burst in zoom which at that level burns through your sniper rounds too fast. The second was a legendary siren mod that I am using and have for the past 10 lvls. Third one was some rocket launcher, seemed nice enough, but I hate launchers.

[Bunk]

Just got "Bane" last night. It is most definitely cursed, and the first thing to really make me laugh out loud in this game. Pure win.

Also, I was surprised to discover that Moxxi gave me her "Good Touch" gun a second time on the same character. I had money burning a hole in my pocket, so I started tipping and noticed she made a comment after a few grand. Kept going and she gave me the gun around 25k at 26th level. Was a nice upgrade from 90 damage to about 135.

[Fabricated]

Solo'd Hyperius on my 2nd attempt tonight, once I switched to law+order him and his minions just melted.  I was feeling pretty smug thinking I just took out the new DLC raid boss until I turned in the quest and there was another "kill ____ the invincible" waiting for me.

Pretty sure that Master Gee is actually fucking invincible.  I've yet to even damage his shields.

I saw a video of someone soloing Master Gee with the Bee, some Tediore +damage mod, and a Tediore smg.

[apocrypha]

Other than that level 8 orange drop, and Moxxi giving me a nice level 35 SMG, my drops have been pretty lousy.  It felt like there was a lot better spread of drops and vendor items in the first game.

^^ This.

Legendaries now seem to only come from specific bosses, there is *never* anything useful in vending machines or in chests. Feels like there is much less variety in guns in 2 than there was in 1.

[Bunk]

Three of my legendaries were random drops off mobs, or out of generic chests. Admittedly, two of them sort of sucked, but still.

Now mind you, we all suffer from the RNG gods - at level 27 I still haven't gotten a class mod better than green that works for my build.

[Rendakor]

I seem to have burned all my luck early; I found a pair of legendaries in the same playthrough around level 12 (a shield and a rocket launcher) and haven't seen one since. I'm level 33 now, just beat the game and even the final boss only dropped some crappy blues.

[Yegolev]

I find things on the vending machines which are upgrades.  Maybe my equipment sucks, I don't know.  I only came to a halt against the Hyperion bunker at lv23 and decided to do some sidequesting until 24.

Yes, I'm slow.

[Muffled]

Other than that level 8 orange drop, and Moxxi giving me a nice level 35 SMG, my drops have been pretty lousy.  It felt like there was a lot better spread of drops and vendor items in the first game.

^^ This.

Legendaries now seem to only come from specific bosses, there is *never* anything useful in vending machines or in chests. Feels like there is much less variety in guns in 2 than there was in 1.

Seems more like there are far fewer useful variations of guns rather than a smaller absolute variety to me, but it amounts to the same thing.  I hit a brick wall with the RNG giving me nothing at all useful for a solid ten levels after , downing even mook robots was an incredible chore.  I may take another crack at it after XCom stops devouring my brain.

[Soulflame]

I've had more and more luck finding guns the further I get in the game.  Although I haven't seen a single legendary yet, other than that one quest reward.

[Rendakor]

The game is shockingly easier as a Mechromancer compared to Zer0; the only time I have any trouble is when I first start the game, before I build up Anarchy stacks. I'm level 27 and I've been wiping the floor with pretty much every boss I've run into. This will probably be my new solo main, and I'll pick Zer0 back up to play with friends or something. Still haven't done the Pirate stuff yet, going to hit it up once my Mechro is high enough.

[Soulflame]

I played a bit with the mechro and Axton, and was rather depressed at how easy the game was compared to Zer0.

Turning invisible for 5 seconds is very much trumped by dropping a turret/robot that blows up everything for you.

[Nerf]

I played a bit with the mechro and Axton, and was rather depressed at how easy the game was compared to Zer0.

Turning invisible for 5 seconds is very much trumped by dropping a turret/robot that blows up everything for you.

This does change a bit at end-game, especially before you have a chance to get decked out in orange everything.  The Zer0 melee law+order build is fucking beastly, it's hard playing anything else when you're used to popping stealth and chaining 5-8 1-shot-kills together to clear all but 1 or 2 of the enemies on the map.  Even once you *are* all decked out in oranges, you feel insanely squishy when you suddenly can't ignore the fact that your shields drop in 1-3 hits because healing yourself to full with every single hit isn't on the table anymore.

Srsly, even with the 80% absorb shield (The Sham), you still don't feel nearly as powerful as you do with Law and Order.

Damn you Dick Wolf, will your creation ever stop me from staying up until 4am?

[Soulflame]

I do intend to try law+order on a melee Zer0 at some point, but I'm currently playing a Sniping Zer0.  Shooting one mob, then having half a dozen jump in your face is a pain in the ass.

[apocrypha]

Xbox 360 Borderlands 2 hit by a bug/exploit that's resulting in deleted saves:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-29-borderlands-2-xbox-360-virus-spreading-deleting-player-saves

The "Graveyard" exploit began when users hacked save files to access a Diablo 3-style hardcore mode left within the game's code by developers.

Users playing online with those who have the exploit enabled have unwittingly found their characters wiped forever when they have died.

Don't know if anyone here is playing on 360 but thought it was worth posting just in case.

[Teleku]

I must have gotten really lucky.  At level 3, I had a legendary acid pistol that still is doing crazy damage at level 11, and a legendary granade mod.  The mod basically makes a huge area start exploding with endless cluster bombs that will wipe out everything.  No more oranges yet, but I've gotten a few purples.  Gunzerker is fun so far.

[Bunk]

In honor of Halloween, a Miss Moxie gallery, for the fanboys and girls here: http://imgur.com/a/JXB5U#lsn0N