Trippy
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Rename or delete the binaries\redist directory as well and Steam will stop trying to reinstall things each time you play.
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Rendakor
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Yea I was having problems with the .Net bullshit too; hitting Restart Later fixed it but I deleted the folder Trippy mentioned as well. Pre-order and Collector's Edition DLCs aren't working yet either; they're showing up in game as redeemed but not downloaded; trying to download them just takes you to the Steam store's main page.  It's shitty because the preorder guns are probably only going to be good for the first few hours.
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"i can't be a star citizen. they won't even give me a star green card"
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Samwise
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Didn't they pinky-swear that the PC version wouldn't be a crummy last-minute port this time?
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murdoc
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Didn't they pinky-swear that the PC version wouldn't be a crummy last-minute port this time?
It isn't. Played a little last night (.net issues aside) and it's GOOD.
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Miasma
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.net is annoying but please tell me that doesn't mean they are using that cancerous windows live for gaming or whatever the hell it's called.
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murdoc
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.net is annoying but please tell me that doesn't mean they are using that cancerous windows live for gaming or whatever the hell it's called.
Nope, seems integrated nicely with Steam though. People playing last night from my Steam friends list were showing up in a sidebar on the main menu, sort of like how the lobby for D3 was.
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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kildorn
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The .net thing seems to just be a bug with a specific module of .net reinstalling itself over and fucking over.
I'm really really liking Handsome Jack's writing.
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Bunk
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Operating Thetan One
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Only real complaint I've had so far is some little inventory nitpicks - when selling an item, the inventory list jumps back to the top for no reason. Its got a few minor quirks that make it feel a little consoley, like screens that don't have anything to click to close - you have to use enter. No where near as bad as one though.
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"Welcome to the internet, pussy." - VDL "I have retard strength." - Schild
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Rendakor
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All the extra DLC seems to be working now; it's much more fun playing as Zer0 when you start with a sniper rifle. For anyone else who got it, the collector's edition customization options won't appear at character creation; once you start the game as that character, the items to unlock the skins will be in your inventory and you can apply them at any outfit changing station.
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"i can't be a star citizen. they won't even give me a star green card"
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Ingmar
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Best review ever. I eagerly await his panning the new X-Com game as a terrible RTS.
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The Transcendent One: AH... THE ROGUE CONSTRUCT. Nordom: Sense of closure: imminent.
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Soulflame
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I'm playing a completely different game than that guy. 
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kildorn
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I get not being into Borderlands. I do not get that review though, as it seems he really wants to play a different style of game.
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Bunk
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Operating Thetan One
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He took a game that's best compared to Diablo, and compared it to CoD and Halo instead. Gee.
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"Welcome to the internet, pussy." - VDL "I have retard strength." - Schild
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Samwise
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That guy is everything that is wrong with the game industry. Possibly the world.
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Paelos
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I'd bet $20 right now if you opened that writer's stock portfolio you'd find some Activision stock.
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CPA, CFO, Sports Fan, Game when I have the time
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kildorn
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I doubt it's Activision stock. Dude just likes competitive FPS games and sports games: http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/12/15/speakeasys-top-10-video-games-of-the-year/By default, Borderlands has absolutely nothing for his tastes: dude doesn't enjoy the genre it's in. The problem I have with the review is it's not trying to review it as Borderlands, it's trying to review Call of Duty and saying Borderlands is shitty at being Call of Duty.
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Ratman_tf
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Borderlands 1 seemed really sparse. Not many NPC, lots of walking around an empty wasteland, etc. How's BL2 on that angle?
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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Nonentity
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Borderlands 1 seemed really sparse. Not many NPC, lots of walking around an empty wasteland, etc. How's BL2 on that angle?
NPCs will get up and walk around and interact with you and other things, and all the areas seem relatively dense with content, from what i've seen so far. Seems a lot better in that respect.
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But that Captain's salami tray was tight, yo. You plump for the roast pork loin, dogg?
[20:42:41] You are halted on the way to the netherworld by a dark spirit, demanding knowledge. [20:42:41] The spirit touches you and you feel drained.
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Margalis
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My problem with BL 1 was that I played for hours and only fought like 3 enemy types, most of which were Skags with different names. And while there were in theory a bazillion guns it felt like there were very few meaningful differences. Even stuff like Uzi vs Assault Rifle ended up feeling basically the same to me.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Bunk
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Three hours in to two, its evident that there is a ton of variety, even within a given gun type. I've got three or four pistols that feel and play significantly different. My only rifle is basically a three barrel mini-gun, that actually has to spin up to full fire rate.
Stats are better presented: shields list both recharge rate and delay time, grenades list fuse time, that sort of thing.
Class mods will improve skills beyond level 5 supposedly.
They claim they significantly upped the baddy list. Presumably you won't get too many different monster types in the same zone (for console memory sake) but it looks well improved.
Outhouses full of treasure. Water is swim-able (though it hurts). Jack is a real dick.
Can I go home from work yet?
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Khaldun
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Oh the Wall Street Journal hired a tool, what a shock. You have to have high toolitude to work there as general rule.
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kildorn
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What they did do is make the weapon manufacturers instantly identifiable and constantly doing something more than +5 accuracy.
Jacobs has no fire rate, it's as fast as you can click. Maliwan is ALWAYS elemental tech of some form. Vladof makes miniguns. Minigun ARs, minigun SMGs, minigun sniper rifles. Tediore weapons reload quickly, and are thrown as grenades on reload. If you're me, this is obnoxious as hell.
So anyways, it's far easier to fall in love with a vendor you really enjoy the style of.
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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Loving it so far, plenty of more of the same.
My only complaints: the menu system is obviously for consoles and your characters progress are only stored for your game, if you play through a game with your friend, you have to start from the beginning on that character.
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Megrim
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Whenever an opponent discards a card, Megrim deals 2 damage to that player.
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Tediore weapons reload quickly, and are thrown as grenades on reload. If you're me, this is obnoxious as hell. Wait, so, when you reload, you also throw a grenade? Or do you reload John Woo style, by tossing the gun away and pulling out a new one? Whereby the old one explodes?
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One must bow to offer aid to a fallen man - The Tao of Shinsei.
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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Tediore weapons reload quickly, and are thrown as grenades on reload. If you're me, this is obnoxious as hell. Wait, so, when you reload, you also throw a grenade? Or do you reload John Woo style, by tossing the gun away and pulling out a new one? Whereby the old one explodes? The latter, and it's awesome.
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Megrim
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Whenever an opponent discards a card, Megrim deals 2 damage to that player.
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Do ho ho.
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One must bow to offer aid to a fallen man - The Tao of Shinsei.
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Fabricated
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~Living the Dream~
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So far really fun and better than the original but still has the bad questlog that likes to usher you past side-quests if you don't pay attention and are rushing around with friends.
The guns feel a fair amount more unique, and it's well, borderlands.
Goddamn every game needs to integrate with Steam for multiplayer; it was painless and D3 easy to join peoples games.
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"The world is populated in the main by people who should not exist." - George Bernard Shaw
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Amaron
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The latter, and it's awesome.
It's awesome but I hate it because I'm a compulsive reloader. If you reload early you throw away the gun with all the ammo it had in it  .
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Megrim
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Whenever an opponent discards a card, Megrim deals 2 damage to that player.
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The latter, and it's awesome.
It's awesome but I hate it because I'm a compulsive reloader. If you reload early you throw away the gun with all the ammo it had in it  . Serves you right for reloading after every kill. =p
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One must bow to offer aid to a fallen man - The Tao of Shinsei.
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Soulflame
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You're not supposed to reload after every kill? Well. Damn.
The sniper rifles seem to be a bit better with hitting in Borderlands 2, which is nice.
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schild
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By mistake opened that stupid fucking vault hunter chest from the preorder. Game crashed, guns and key gone. Nice.
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Hawkbit
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Comparatively little chatter here about this game, considering how good it is. Everyone must be playing.
A few quibbles. It snows through some ceilings. Once or twice a mob has been shooting me from fully behind something, and I can't hit them.
Otherwise, the game just bleeds character. I wish there was someway they would merge the first game into this experience. Fix all the tech jankiness and clean it up a bit. I also could see potential for a huge open-world persistent world setup.
Not saying I want them to change what we have, but there could be potential.
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Rendakor
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Got a bit further today, still loving it. I did find a broken quest though: Anyone know if there are console commands to fix quest bugs yet?
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"i can't be a star citizen. they won't even give me a star green card"
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