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Mosesandstick
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I'm with Dark. The only time Mejai's works is in situations where you don't need it. I find a nice rule of thumb for Lux's ultimate is that the range is about from one corner of your screen to the other if you're on 1920x1080.
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Slayerik
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Fine, never buy it!
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Typhon
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Looks like it might be worthwhile to try it on Xerath: long range and passive that give armor for AP (Xerath is new champ coming next). Assuming that 140 AP is a decent amount of armor.
Mejai's RoA Rabadons
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Malakili
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I know its only a few months old, but is this post still relevant? I've mostly just been playing everything that is currently free mostly to get a feel for the mechanics and such. Now that I'm starting to figure out how things fit together I'm thinking I should probably commit at least a little to learning a hero or two more in depth.
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Thrawn
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I know its only a few months old, but is this post still relevant? I've mostly just been playing everything that is currently free mostly to get a feel for the mechanics and such. Now that I'm starting to figure out how things fit together I'm thinking I should probably commit at least a little to learning a hero or two more in depth.
Shen is pretty meh right now, you could probably find a better tank option. For a tank you'd want to learn someone that's good solo top like Singed, Jarvin, Garen, Galio etc... But the other 4 are all very relevant still and mostly always have been. Ashe - Ranged AD Carry, Annie - AP Carry, Janna - Support, WW - Jungle
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« Last Edit: September 29, 2011, 08:13:42 PM by Thrawn »
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statisticalfool
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Assuming you're not dumping RP into the game already: I think you should find some champs you like (and are cheap to IP buy), and when you find one or two you like, just buy them up. Mixing up trying new stuff out with getting good at a few base ones is a good way to be. But, take a look at here: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Champions (sort by IP) As long as you're not learning all the same type of champion, that's good. ps: friendly reminder that Tristana and Alistar are free.
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Lakov_Sanite
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Tried playing cass tonight since I mostly have caster runes atm. Really cool character but I can't say I like playing her, just way too squishy.
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Amaron
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Tried playing cass tonight since I mostly have caster runes atm. Really cool character but I can't say I like playing her, just way too squishy.
You can play her fairly tanky on Dom. The way her fang thing works lets her do fairly good damage even with lower AP.
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Malakili
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Assuming you're not dumping RP into the game already: I think you should find some champs you like (and are cheap to IP buy), and when you find one or two you like, just buy them up. Mixing up trying new stuff out with getting good at a few base ones is a good way to be. But, take a look at here: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Champions (sort by IP) As long as you're not learning all the same type of champion, that's good. ps: friendly reminder that Tristana and Alistar are free. Thanks for this link. Correct in that I'm not sinking RP in to the game yet, but I'm not totally opposed to doing so within a relatively short time frame. I don't think its worth it yet mainly because I don't know enough about what I like to play to spend money on characters, but I do want to become proficient with a solid enough variety that when I get matched with a team I can be useful regardless of what everyone else chooses. At the low levels that I've been playing at it seems like people don't play tanks as much, does that stay common?
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Mosesandstick
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Generally yes (same goes for supports). Everybody likes to kill stuff. The game works much better when you play with people you know.
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Dark_MadMax
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I know its only a few months old, but is this post still relevant? I've mostly just been playing everything that is currently free mostly to get a feel for the mechanics and such. Now that I'm starting to figure out how things fit together I'm thinking I should probably commit at least a little to learning a hero or two more in depth. Well should you learn those champs? yeah would be neat. But there are imho better options AP - Annie (agree there), Brand AD - Gangplank, Tryndamere, Yi Ranged AD - Caitlyn,Vayne Tanks - Rammus, Amumu, Cho Tanky DPS - Garen, Sion At some point you will learn the itemization, masteries and rune setups for each role and then you can play basically any champ once you know where he fits. In any case you cant go wrong by playing free rotation champs- play various roles till you stumble on a champ you like and just keep playing him till you become really good
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K9
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Judging from what I have seen levelling up from 8-15 recently, the heroes which people have the most difficulty with are Tryndamere, Gangplank, Yi, and Xin Zhao, who are all tanky melee DPS. I would give Veigar, Ryze and Orianna nods as ranged heroes, since they can all put out some scary burst DPS when played well.
Annie, Morgana and Brand are the best mid-lane heroes I see, and they can be nicely tanky as far as AP classes go in the late game.
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Slayerik
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Anivia can be pretty awesome too, if you aren't me playing her! Actually, I think I am ready for SR with her now. Get ready for some losses boys!
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Chimpy
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Anivia can be pretty awesome too, if you aren't me playing her! Actually, I think I am ready for SR with her now. Get ready for some losses boys!
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Rasix
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I know its only a few months old, but is this post still relevant? I've mostly just been playing everything that is currently free mostly to get a feel for the mechanics and such. Now that I'm starting to figure out how things fit together I'm thinking I should probably commit at least a little to learning a hero or two more in depth. It is but you can mostly ignore the jungling and support sections. At low levels no one really runs either. From what I know (which isn't much), jungling isn't totally viable without runes that you'll have at higher levels and most folks don't support their jungle very well. Most junglers I've seen at this level end up being quite a few levels down on the laners and end up being somewhat ineffective overall. Warwick is a solid champ for a beginner, jungle or not. Most people I've seen do pretty decent with him. I'm starting to a see a bit more support, but not much. I've seen a Janna and a Kayle here and there. But it might be of more use to play a different role just to see how a support can help. You see more tanky support than pure support. Dark_MadMax's list is pretty similar to what I'd recommend based on my limited experience. I might add Xin Zhao to list (AD?). He seems pretty easy to play for most people.
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Chimpy
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If you want to learn how to play a ranged AD, you can get Tristana for free by liking League of Legends on facebook still I think.
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Rokal
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statisticalfool
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Speaking of Trist...
What am I supposed to do solo mid versus Cait? I usually do okay as Trist, but wow, that was just embarrassing. The Cait was better than most, but I just found myself constantly zoned by her AA range and traps, and this was even with dodging most of her Q's. Just try to keep the lane from pushing all the way to my tower, and wait it out? Or just ask for a switch?
Also, rocket jump not jumping over her traps :(
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Kirth
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Speaking of Trist...
What am I supposed to do solo mid versus Cait? I usually do okay as Trist, but wow, that was just embarrassing. The Cait was better than most, but I just found myself constantly zoned by her AA range and traps, and this was even with dodging most of her Q's. Just try to keep the lane from pushing all the way to my tower, and wait it out? Or just ask for a switch?
Also, rocket jump not jumping over her traps :(
Wait it out and try to out farm her, under you tower if necessary. Plus she opens her self up to ganks if she pushes you to far.
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Malakili
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Purchased Ashe with IP this evening, had a lot of fun playing her. Next up I think something a bit more tanky.
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Strazos
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God I fucking hate ashe - near-infinite snare.
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Chimpy
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God I fucking hate ashe - near-infinite snare. It is a slow, not a snare :p
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statisticalfool
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Morg is a beast.
Singed is a beast.
Lee Sin is a beast.
I expect some 'adjustments' soon.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/patch-preview-xerathMorgana gets -0.1AP on Black Shield and 'slightly lower' spell vamp (my guess is 15/20/25). Lee Sin picks up a few nerfs (lower Q ratio, lower range on safeguard), and Singed gets lower poison trail duration. Please colllect your prize at the window.
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Amaron
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I find it amusing they think anyone would play Morg as a full support. Happy to see Singed get nerfed a lil at least.
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Lakov_Sanite
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Morgana gets -0.1AP on Black Shield and 'slightly lower' spell vamp (my guess is 15/20/25). Nooooooooo....
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Slayerik
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Morg is a beast.
Singed is a beast.
Lee Sin is a beast.
I expect some 'adjustments' soon.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/patch-preview-xerathMorgana gets -0.1AP on Black Shield and 'slightly lower' spell vamp (my guess is 15/20/25). Lee Sin picks up a few nerfs (lower Q ratio, lower range on safeguard), and Singed gets lower poison trail duration. Please colllect your prize at the window. Ouch. My poor Singed. Sometimes I hate being right.
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Thrawn
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I find it amusing they think anyone would play Morg as a full support. Happy to see Singed get nerfed a lil at least.
Some people are that dumb, I've picked Morg in games and called mid only to have people argue "No, Morg is support so you're bot with X." Happily in every case of that I took mid anyways and carried the team.
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Malakili
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I've got enough points for Amumu now, think I should buy him? I want something tanky, and he looks a bit quirky, which I like.
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Thrawn
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I've got enough points for Amumu now, think I should buy him? I want something tanky, and he looks a bit quirky, which I like.
Amumu has almost always been a very solid pick because he can jungle, and because his ult is AMAZING. If you enjoy playing him you can never go wrong with Amumu but you need to learn to jungle him. (This is of course all assuming you are asking from a "Is he top tier" type standpoint. If you just screw around to have fun play whatever you want!)
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Malakili
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I've got enough points for Amumu now, think I should buy him? I want something tanky, and he looks a bit quirky, which I like.
Amumu has almost always been a very solid pick because he can jungle, and because his ult is AMAZING. If you enjoy playing him you can never go wrong with Amumu but you need to learn to jungle him. (This is of course all assuming you are asking from a "Is he top tier" type standpoint. If you just screw around to have fun play whatever you want!) Thanks for the info.
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Rasix
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I can see why people ban Fiddle now. Guy was ganking the shit out of me. Plus combined with Akali, he was able to zone me pretty hard in bot. Very smurfy too, guy talked like he'd be playing the game forever. We still won the game, which was somewhat amazing considering we didn't push a lane to their base before they were whacking on one of our inhibs. But, I think we played the team fights better for the most part, and were a lot more tanky than they were. Also, we got Baron when he was up and they didn't at all.
Ohh, and now that I'm level 11 and getting matched with 12s? Fuck flash. That shit needs to be gone.
At what point do people start playing draft? I've been OK with blind mode up to this point. Might start getting odd once I'm playing a majority of people not playing just the free champs.
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« Last Edit: October 01, 2011, 11:08:29 AM by Rasix »
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K9
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I got smurfed by an Akali today, they were putting out simply sickening amounts of burst damage.
I messed around with Draft a bit, but frankly I found waiting for some semi-afk bellend to make unhelpful ban picks to be less fun than advertised, so I reverted to blind pick.
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ezrast
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I've been avoiding draft because ohgodwhatwillIdoiftheybanVayneandTrundle. Planning on using it to get acquainted with the system after I'm familiar with a few more champs and preparing to get into ranked.
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K9
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I guess draft is good when you have the flexibility and skill to build effective counter comps, as it is I am still going to try and pick from the same 3-4 champs and the same single set of runes and masteries, so Draft doesn't really offer me anything.
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Arinon
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Started playing this a couple of weeks ago. Mostly trying out the free champs in bot matches to get my sea legs. Have some real matches under my belt now and I've had the most success with Zilean. Obviously depends on what kind of clown you get paired with but at these sub-10 matches his bombs get a surprising number kills from people leaving fights a wee bit too late. Not sure how good Zilean is overall but zipping around the map and saving/slowing people has been a blast.
I want to see about a solid melee damager but I'm horrible at it. Early game I have a hard time putting pressure on ranged champs. Later on judging just what I can do and when to go all-in on a kill have ended up really poorly. Yi, Nocturne, and Xin Zhao have all been embarrassing but I was passable with Wu Kong. Any suggestions? Kassadin looked like he might fit as he looks super mobile but I'm gun-shy about dropping the 3k+ on him.
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