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Reply #35 on: June 16, 2011, 06:39:44 AM

It's also in Valve's interest not to have that many direct competitors.

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Reply #36 on: June 16, 2011, 06:43:49 AM

I'm not exactly sure how tossing games out would weaken the position of their competitors, if that's what you're saying.

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Reply #37 on: June 16, 2011, 06:47:00 AM

Well I question that because other developers have sold their games through steam and still maintained other download services elsewhere.

Things change over time.

I'm interested to see how this plays out.

Let's put it this way. I've seen Mount and Blade offered in 3 different current iterations on both the Steam site and the Taleworlds site. Both have had sales. Both have had pricing difference. Those games run a timespan of several years up to May of this year. What exactly is the difference? Also, what did Crysis do that violated the terms but Dragon Age II didn't? DA2 is on Origin sale for $39.99, but it's $59.99 at Steam. Will they pull that one?

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Reply #38 on: June 16, 2011, 06:54:04 AM

What blows my mind is that I can get Portal 2, TF2, and a few other games off of Origin...  swamp poop

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Reply #39 on: June 16, 2011, 07:00:09 AM

I think those who were talking about the DLC being the issue might be on to something. I was seeing something about a DLC pack for crysis 2 around 15th of may, but it might've been postponed due to sony's "mishap", and maybe EA kept it an Origin exclusive? And DA2 avoids this by having its expansion pack released before Origin was ready?

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Reply #40 on: June 16, 2011, 07:35:33 AM

That is a good theory. EA seems to be stingy with their DLC anyway. GoG couldn't secure the DLC (they were called expansion packs back then :)) for their old games as well.
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Reply #41 on: June 16, 2011, 08:22:28 AM

Even that theory doesn't make me believe it's a Valve issue and NOT an EA issue.

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Reply #42 on: June 16, 2011, 08:34:27 AM

No, I have to agree, it still doesn't quite make sense. I mean, it does make sense insofar that maybe valve doesn't want the games they sell to be dependent on a 3rd party, but it also doesn't make sense because they've got tons of games with online activations etc, and that kind of shoots down that theory.

I have to agree, I'm still not seeing how this is a Valve issue and not an EA issue. It would be nice if Valve would say something publically about it, if just to silence the conspiracy theories.

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Reply #43 on: June 16, 2011, 08:56:08 AM

A quick look around seems to hint that maybe the culprit is the DLCs. Were there DLCs available for crysis 2 on steam prior to it being taken down? If not, then maybe EA is insisting on the DLCs being downloaded from their servers instead of steam.

God knows, it's the only thing I can realistically think of offhand, I would've thought it would be in Valve's interest to have as many games as possible in its repetoir. vOv

I'm going to speculate that Valve has some clause that states "Online login and multiplayer will work at least 70% of the time, and any DLC purchased will actually work with the core game".

I'm sorry, but after the clusterfuck that was the Crysis2 preorder bonuses and registration system, someone could tell me that the game was causing computers to explode and kill people and I would probably believe them.
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Reply #44 on: June 16, 2011, 10:18:23 AM

I think those who were talking about the DLC being the issue might be on to something. I was seeing something about a DLC pack for crysis 2 around 15th of may, but it might've been postponed due to sony's "mishap", and maybe EA kept it an Origin exclusive? And DA2 avoids this by having its expansion pack released before Origin was ready?

I don't think so, the regular DLC wasn't sold through Steam at all for any DA/ME games, just the one 'expansion' for DA.

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Reply #45 on: June 16, 2011, 12:47:08 PM

Wasn't Target making a big stink about Steam a year ago? Wish I could remember what that was about. Anyways, here a picture from the internet.


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Reply #46 on: June 16, 2011, 03:17:54 PM

That's epic.
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Reply #47 on: June 16, 2011, 04:50:31 PM

I think those who were talking about the DLC being the issue might be on to something. I was seeing something about a DLC pack for crysis 2 around 15th of may, but it might've been postponed due to sony's "mishap", and maybe EA kept it an Origin exclusive? And DA2 avoids this by having its expansion pack released before Origin was ready?

Dunno, all the Bad Company 2 DLC was available on Steam. BC2 isn't exactly a low-profile game, either...

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