E3 '11

[Paelos]

If I have to get out of my chair to play games or flail wildly like an idiot at my TV, I'm out.

[Xuri]

Battlefield on a Nintendo console? Assassin's Creed on a Nintendo console? Arkam City on a Nintendo console? I'm in.

[Mrbloodworth]

^^

[HaemishM]

Let me show you on the doll where Nintendo touched me. 

[luckton]

If I have to get out of my chair to play games or flail wildly like an idiot at my TV, I'm out.

I didn't see a whole lot of arm flailing.  More sitting and using the new controller like a boss.

[Rasix]

I'm not liking that controller.  Looks uncomfortable.

[luckton]

Reading through Wired.com's now-NDA-free play demo.  That part where they showed HD Zelda with the action on screen and your stats on the controller?  Those are hot-swappable 

[Mrbloodworth]

All Wii games and waggles still work.

One of the more awesome things about that controller, 360 degree games. Not joking, you turn the controller off screen around you and see more game world.

And yes, if someone changes the TV, you keep on gaming on the controller, even in another room.

[Rendakor]

As long as this console gets 3rd party titles that are comparable to the PS3 and 360 it won't be that bad. The new controller looks interesting, I'm just dreading how it gets shoe-horned into every game in existence.

[Mrbloodworth]

Wii U Trailer E3 2011 Nintendo Press Conference [HQ]

Let me show you on the doll where Nintendo touched me. 

Better yet, take an image of it on the new controller and video chat with me!

 

[KallDrexx]

I have a bad feeling the Wii U can only support one controller per system, so that kind of limits the usefulness of in the room gaming options. 

[Rendakor]

Here's a good vid showing off the controller. Good to see they finally included all the controller basics (dual analog sticks, 2 shoulder buttons per side, etc).

[Mrbloodworth]

I was just thinking, Don't have a TV?

Don't need one with Wii U. That's a lot of sales to students right there, and if you find a TV, your set.

[Rasix]

I'm virtually punching you through the internet. 

[Mrbloodworth]

[K9]

I actually think there are some really interesting ideas here. I agree with Rasix that it does not look comfortable to hold, weight and bulk being potentially huge issues. Also controllers are already retardedly expensive, and I don't see how these will be as cheap as they need to be. On the flip side, moving the HUD to the controller, so the screen just has visuals on it, adding clever interactivity between multiple screens (tv-controller); those are some ideas with some real mileage in them.

I'm pretty positive this console will die without third-party games though.

[luckton]

Well now I'm sad...Reggie just said on GT.TV that all of the third party stuff that was shown was not Wii U rendered.  It was all stock PS3/XboX/PC footage.  The only thing real was the bird/garden fly-through demo.   

[Rendakor]

They've already got experience with the Controller Screen/TV interaction from the Cube; there were a handful of games (FF:CC was the big one) that let you use a GBA as a controller so you had your own screen for inventory, menus, etc. without interrupting the other players.

[fuser]

There is a new console, AND a new controller. Please keep up!

Right... at the time I posted it we were into 25mins of talking about the controller with zero information about the platform surrounding it.

[01101010]

That Nintendo thing just looks wonky.

And where the hell are all the 3D games? I thought they were supposed to be the in thing this coming year. Maybe I am mistaken or imputed the movie/tv trend into the gaming world. (and no, I am not a fan of 3D anything, for the record)

[luckton]

And where the hell are all the 3D games? I thought they were supposed to be the in thing this coming year. Maybe I am mistaken or imputed the movie/tv trend into the gaming world. (and no, I am not a fan of 3D anything, for the record)

Apparently you missed the first 30 minutes of the press conference?  Lots of 3DS games to be had...

Edit: Let's cross the streams!  Future Starfox 64 3DS beta tester!

[Mrbloodworth]

There is a new console, AND a new controller. Please keep up!

Right... at the time I posted it we were into 25mins of talking about the controller with zero information about the platform surrounding it.

They opened with: "Wii U is the new console, now lets talk about the controller"

[palmer_eldritch]

I don’t know if or when it will actually happen at E3 but Square Enix has released a new trailer for Final Fantasy XIII-2 which it is calling the E3 trailer. This is the first full trailer for Final Fantasy XIII-2, the sequel to Final Fantasy XIII, although a short teaser trailer released in January.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-75BdU8U-w

The game seems to star Serah, the girl you were trying to rescue in Final Fantasy XIII, a new character called Noel and members of NORAH, the annoying friends of Snow who featured briefly in the first game.

Where this leaves Serah and her fiancé Snow is not clear. More importantly, there’s nothing to hint at whether we’ll see more of the Fang/Vanille lesbian action which made Final Fantasy XIII so exciting.

In the unlikely event anyone doesn’t know, I think the general view of Final Fantasy XIII was that it was disappointing, partly because of the insane plot and partly because the game was almost totally on rails. You were suddenly allowed the freedom to explore a section of the world, about three quarters of the way through the game, but only until you decided to get back into the storyline part of the game.

But I’ll still buy the sequel.

[Sheepherder]

On the flip side, moving the HUD to the controller, so the screen just has visuals on it, adding clever interactivity between multiple screens (tv-controller); those are some ideas with some real mileage in them.

Sega already tried this.  Sticking information you need to be situationally aware of onto two different screens separated by a significant distance is a fucking retarded idea.

[HaemishM]

As long as this console gets 3rd party titles that are comparable to the PS3 and 360 it won't be that bad. The new controller looks interesting, I'm just dreading how it gets shoe-horned into every game in existence.

And therein lies its doom. Or at least, that's where they lose me, because for what, 2, 3 iterations of Nintendo consoles, they've had shitty shit shit shit 3rd party support. It killed the Wii for me and I was a pretty big cheerleader for the system. Fuck Nintentdo until they can prove they deserve otherwise.

[Hawkbit]

^^ Yep.

[Amaron]

A HUD on the controller defeats the entire purpose of a HUD in the first place.   Split screen is probably the killer app for this product.    Some clown is going to say casuals don't care about split screen though so I'm going to go ahead and say fuck you you're wrong right off the bat.

[Sky]

HDD - heads down display! 

[Ingmar]

We may be disdaining it here, but the new Wii is the only thing from E3 to make the front page of my local newspaper's website. It's going to be another money printing press I suspect, at least initially.

[KallDrexx]

On the flip side, moving the HUD to the controller, so the screen just has visuals on it, adding clever interactivity between multiple screens (tv-controller); those are some ideas with some real mileage in them.

Sega already tried this.  Sticking information you need to be situationally aware of onto two different screens separated by a significant distance is a fucking retarded idea.

This.  The idea of playing Zelda like this and having to constantly look away from the TV just to see how much health I have left is retarded and will be quite frustrating. It only works with the DS because the screens are only a few centimeters apart, but even then the user usually focuses on one screen and ignores the other most of the time. 

[01101010]

We may be disdaining it here, but the new Wii is the only thing from E3 to make the front page of my local newspaper's website. It's going to be another money printing press I suspect, at least initially.

Dunno about that. I know quite a few people who have Wii's who don't use them at all. And these were people who were completely drunk off them when they "found" them in stock at their local store. I am sure people are going to be at least partially cautious about the fever this time. Then again, we are talking about the general public.

[Amaron]

Dunno about that. I know quite a few people who have Wii's who don't use them at all.

This.  My parents got one and now they never use it.   It ended up a big waste of money for them.   My father would use it to play golf but the stupid game literally forces you to stand up instead of playing it while sitting.   I think a lot of people feel they got burned and will not buy in this time.   They could lose 30% and still be printing money of course.

[Mrbloodworth]

My Wii gets a lot of use. Quite sure I will have to get this new one.

[Xuri]

The idea of playing Zelda like this and having to constantly look away from the TV just to see how much health I have left is retarded and will be quite frustrating. It only works with the DS because the screens are only a few centimeters apart, but even then the user usually focuses on one screen and ignores the other most of the time. 

Dude, you're supposed to hold the controller right below the TV ^^

[Paelos]

So is the idea of making a gaming system that just plays games totally ridiculous?

I mean does it have to be in 3D or have wacky controllers or play Blu-ray?

Because I don't want any of that.