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Topic: Ripping DVDs to video files? (Read 5075 times)
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Azazel
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So I've never actually done this in the past, never had the need. I'm going to be sorting through a whole bunch of my old videotapes, and wanting to turn them into digital files so I can turf the l10 or so large boxes of tapes I've carried around for the last 10 years or so.. My PC doesn't have video-in, though. Old TV shows and stuff like The Late Show from the D-Generation (Aussie comedy) that's never been repeated on TV to my knowledge, and only released in very cut down form on DVD.
I do have a Hard Drive DVR that can burn discs. It can also edit, but editing on it is a huge pain in the arse, unlike editing on a PC.
What I want to do is record the VHS tapes onto the DVR and burn them as DVDs so I can turf the tapes. Them when I get around to it (read: later) take those DVDs and rip them onto my PC into files which I can then edit for ad breaks and drop out the shit parts and so forth, then I'll have a bunch of nice wmv/avi files that I can play off a HDD or USB instead of all these boxes of old videotapes that I'll never watch.
Any guidance, pointers, trusted links or so froth would be appreciated. Google always turns up a bunch of dodgy programs that want your money or CC details or so forth with this kind of search.
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Furiously
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I won't suggest an ATI all-in-wonder card, because they are a total pain in the rear to get working.
I'd look around locally for a service that does it. Might actually be cheaper than buying a video-in card you will use once.
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Azazel
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I'm thinking (free?) software I can use to rip the DVDs once they are burnt into avi files or wmv files.
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tar
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Hope I'm not crossing a line wrt what's a suitable link but I've found Doom9 to be useful resource for this, specifically: AutoGK for converting DVD VOB files into .avi files.
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I'm thinking (free?) software I can use to rip the DVDs once they are burnt into avi files or wmv files.
To rip DVDs from movie files, I been using CovertXtoDVD by VSO. Not quite sure what the free demo is about since I bought this outright way back in the say when it was $30. Never had a problem with it. Very simple in that you point the program to the file, start the project, insert dvd and in a few minutes out pops the burned disc.
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Minvaren
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Hope I'm not crossing a line wrt what's a suitable link but I've found Doom9 to be useful resource for this, specifically: AutoGK for converting DVD VOB files into .avi files. Beat me to it - that second link is the exact process I've always used, and with great results.
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Trippy
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This is how I would do it: I'd get a video capture device for my PC that has a hardware MPEG-2 encoder and capture straight to my PC rather than going through a DVR burner first. Then I would use VideoReDo to take out the commercials and just leave the files in MPEG-2 format. If I need the videos in another format like for a portable device I would use Handbrake* to convert it to H.264 though I would still keep the MPEG-2 files around. * Actually I would just use mencoder or ffmpeg from the command line but that's just me  Here's why: Capturing straight into your PC skips all the crap you would have to do to burn onto a DVD, rip the DVD onto your PC, and then join the VOB files together on each DVD so that you can edit them (most systems used to create DVD videos will split the VOB files into 1 GB chunks for compatibility reasons). A hardware MPEG-2 encoder minimizes the load on your CPU. If you have a quad-core CPU that may not be so much on an issue but even on a dual-core, there are enough games out there that can use both cores that your FPS will suffer if you are capturing through a software encoder and playing a dual-core game at the same time. If you want to have DVD copies of all of your tapes (rather than just a subset, say) then you might as well use your DVR burner, assuming the quality is good and assuming you don't mind the commercials. In that situation use something like DVD Decrypter to rewrite the VOB files as a single VOB file for editing. VideoReDo (commerical) was one of the first programs that could do "smart rendering" of MPEG-2 files. Smart rendering means if you are doing frame accurate edits it will only reencode those edits that don't fall between I frame boundaries. The rest of the video data it'll just copy rather than reencode. This preserves as much of the quality of the video as captured either through the device or burned onto DVDs. If you don't care about frame accurate editing and are just editing on I frames then there are free programs that can do that without reencoding everything. I like VideoReDo cause it's really fast and efficient for cutting out commercials, which is what I do for a lot of my DVR'd videos. It also has a "commercial skip" feature but I prefer to just do it myself cause that feature typically results in a ton of edits which can make it hard to correct errors in the scan. AVI as a container format sucks donkey ass. I would highly recommend not archiving things in that format even if you do use a decent video codec. And WMV is way too non-portable and the WMV codecs aren't that good. If you leave things in MPEG-2 format that'll make converting to DVD video format a lot easier as good DVD mastering software won't transcode your video yet again. There's also the issue of how to deal with interlaced video. With MPEG-2 software and hardware DVD players will do the deinterlacing for you. If you convert to AVI you either have learn about deinterlacing filters yourself or put up with crappy looking video through a lot of video players (some will do deinterlacing but you would have to hunt around for one).
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Sheepherder
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This is where I one-up Trippy by recommending he buy some sort of tape drive so he can do a 1:1 copy of his VHS, right? 
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Trippy
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With a TBC, of course.
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Chimpy
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Track down an old Amiga and install the Video Toaster software on it! Then you can do the awesome "pornstar" wipe between scenes.
(Trippy's TBC comment instantly brought that to mind)
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Salamok
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* Actually I would just use mencoder or ffmpeg from the command line but that's just me  I probably just suck or maybe 18 months ago there just wasn't enough documentation on it but the script I wrote to convert files using ffmpeg and upload them to my server just hangs horribly when I hand it a file that won't fit in memory. This seems odd since ffmpeg can encode on the fly from a live stream (maybe that is the answer I need to stream my large file to it). It also crapped out on properly adding the key frame data since I have to hit my result with yamdi to correct that once ffmpeg is done. AVI as a container format sucks donkey ass. I would highly recommend not archiving things in that format even if you do use a decent video codec. And WMV is way too non-portable and the WMV codecs aren't that good. If you leave things in MPEG-2 format that'll make converting to DVD video format a lot easier as good DVD mastering software won't transcode your video yet again. There's also the issue of how to deal with interlaced video. With MPEG-2 software and hardware DVD players will do the deinterlacing for you. If you convert to AVI you either have learn about deinterlacing filters yourself or put up with crappy looking video through a lot of video players (some will do deinterlacing but you would have to hunt around for one).
I don't know shit about it other than my win 7 box streams avi nicely to the ps3 but will the ps3 handle MPEG-2 in the same fashion?
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« Last Edit: April 28, 2011, 08:48:29 PM by Salamok »
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Trippy
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AVI as a container format sucks donkey ass. I would highly recommend not archiving things in that format even if you do use a decent video codec. And WMV is way too non-portable and the WMV codecs aren't that good. If you leave things in MPEG-2 format that'll make converting to DVD video format a lot easier as good DVD mastering software won't transcode your video yet again. There's also the issue of how to deal with interlaced video. With MPEG-2 software and hardware DVD players will do the deinterlacing for you. If you convert to AVI you either have learn about deinterlacing filters yourself or put up with crappy looking video through a lot of video players (some will do deinterlacing but you would have to hunt around for one).
I don't know shit about it other than my win 7 box streams avi nicely to the ps3 but will the ps3 handle MPEG-2 in the same fashion? It should: http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/video/filetypes.html
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Miguel
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I've liked Matroska Media Container for a while now....perhaps an alternative to AVI. Mplayer handles the format nicely too.
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