So Nintendo is following up the Wii with a new console next year....

[Ingmar]

The DS Zelda game seemed pretty solid to me too.

[Paelos]

I liked it until I had to sail all over creation hunting triforce pieces.

I liked the sailing. 

[Margalis]

I'm really not quite sure what to think about this. There's no details yet, so unless they've been working on this for a year or two, will it just be a re-packaged Wii with closer-to-next-gen hardware?

Can't this be said about basically every new system? I mean the PS3 is just a more powerful PS2 and the 360 is just a more powerful Xbox basically.

[Rendakor]

Except the Wii wasn't substantially more powerful than the Gamecube. 

[Rasix]

The Zelda game will end up as a port of a Wii game, just like last time.

Twilight Princess HD? I can't wait. Yay.  Woo.   

[Rendakor]

Well, I meant a port (or dual release) of Skyward Sword, but who knows with Nintendo these days.

[CmdrSlack]

Except the Wii wasn't substantially more powerful than the Gamecube. 

This. If the Wii was a slightly more powerful Gamecube, then the WiiS360 will be a slightly more powerful Wii with 3D, twitch, and a Duke Nukem exclusive.

[Azazel]

Hm. New Nintendo console, slightly more powerful than the 360. Colour me indifferent - I've already got a 360/PS3/PC for real games, a Kinect for "move my boo-tay games" aka gathering dust since we don't have space to use it properly) and a Wii which mostly gathers dust along with a pile of games for it which also gather dust. Also have a near-complete indifference to portable and mobile games, and already have a DS and iPhone if I ever travel and need some portable gaming or have a head injury which makes me give a shit about portables otherwise. I also don't much care for Mario/Zelda/Metroid.

I reckon I've got my bases covered, there. No need for Ninty's latest whatever.

[UnSub]

Could be a sign that Nintendo wants to move against the iPad / apps gaming market and don't think the DS can cope in that area.

Of course, this would require Nintendo to start caring about third party and independent developers, which hasn't happened yet.

[Mrbloodworth]

Reason I said I think its fake, is it goes contrary to all the training they did with the Wiimote to the audiences. ( The entire get up and move concept )

Which resulted in the term "waggle" that often depicted people sitting on their ass miming shorter versions of their intended movements so they didn't have to "get up and move".

Yes, but, not my point :)

[Nonentity]

All I want is a new Zelda Four Swords Adventure, and that will justify the purchase for me, so I don't have to drag out my assorted GBAs and wire up my Gamecube to play. One of the best couch multiplayer games ever.

[Yegolev]

It's approachable and not annoying? I doesn't give me 20 buttons on a controller? If I wanted 20+ buttons, I'd just use a fucking keyboard. Also, Nintendo has always been more "gamey" to me than the other systems which were all srs bzns.

So you currently have a Wii?  I assumed you did not and wondered why you would skip the Wii and buy its muscular little brother.

I mean the PS3 is just a more powerful PS2

I wished to many gods that this was true.  Now I believe in nothing.

[Paelos]

It's approachable and not annoying? I doesn't give me 20 buttons on a controller? If I wanted 20+ buttons, I'd just use a fucking keyboard. Also, Nintendo has always been more "gamey" to me than the other systems which were all srs bzns.

So you currently have a Wii?  I assumed you did not and wondered why you would skip the Wii and buy its muscular little brother.

I do not. I have access to a Wii, though. I just don't really buy the "motion" stuff. I liked the gamecube, and I own that. I love that controller btw.

[Yegolev]

I'd be surprised if motion went away.  That would eliminate any backward compatibility as well as any potential link to the WiiWare store.  I'll not completely disbelieve the idea of a third and unrelated game platform, though.  Anything's possible when you're Shigeru Miyamoto.

[Paelos]

I mean my 59 year old parents own a Wii, and I don't. That speaks volumes to me about the market divergence.

[Fabricated]

Everyone I know with a Wii who wasn't a gamer before it came out ONLY has WiiSports because that's literally all they like/care about.

Yes, they paid $250 to play Wii Bowling every once in a while with family members. Much like I paid $250 to play Smash Brothers Brawl.

Then I stopped playing Brawl and started playing Melee again with my friends because we all thought Brawl kinda sucked.

So basically I paid $250 for a non-cubey gamecube.

I already owned a gamecube.

I'm a cunt.

[Paelos]

Hahaha, that got me good.

[Hawkbit]

Yep, my folks played Wii bowling at our house and *had* to have it.  They bought about three games that were all shovelware and never spent another nickel on the system.  I'd be surprised if they bought into a game system again because they felt burnt a bit by the games they bought.  

Your average Wii buyer isn't checking ratings or forums to see how a game is.  I suspect my folks won't be the only ones that won't buy in the next generation because Nintendo allowed anyone and everyone to release games on their system.  

[01101010]

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/04/nintendo-3ds-sales/

Related? Nintendo really seems hell bent on releasing new shit at bad times and wondering why things aren't working out like they planned. New Wii now? Well... I guess they will just throw more marketing at it 

[Paelos]

Yep, putting out a $250 handheld in a recession. 

[Hawkbit]

I played one at Best Buy, Street Fighter and Pilotwings.  SF was easier to play in 2d and Pilotwings was neat for about 5 minutes in 3d.  Then the shiny wore off and I realized that I'm not going to play anything in 3d anyways because I get mild headaches from it.  Nintendo has been all gimmick lately since R.O.B..

[UnSub]

Your average Wii buyer isn't checking ratings or forums to see how a game is.  

I've read that the Wii is the first platform in history where game ratings and sales don't have a significant positive correlation.

Regardless, Nintendo still 'won' this round of the console wars (the Kinect won't pull the Xbox 360 to the lead, but it sets up an interesting next gen battle) and showed that if you can release an affordable console with a good hook, you will get a lot of people to buy it. Key thing: the Wii reduced game complexity a whole heap. Anyone can pick up a Wiimote and get some idea of what it does; other console controllers are viewed as too difficult / complex.

[Rendakor]

The racing games both look much better in 3D than SF, even though SF is the major selling point (from a marketing perspective) of the system.

[Margalis]

The 3DS has 3D, but it's also a more powerful DS with an analog controller.

[Rendakor]

That's why I bought one Marg; I've played my DS much more than my PS3 and my 360 combined. The price tag was pretty steep and the lack of a big name, first party title is a little weak but I know they'll support it well. Besides, 3D is a much less annoying gimmick than waggle or touch screen.

[HaemishM]

An overpriced handheld with the gimmick of 3D added? Oh and it pretty much just seems like an overpriced iteration of a system that has already had too many releases with that brand name as it is? I imagine to most people (you know, fucking idiots), the 3DS sounds a lot like "this is the 3rd version of the console" more than "WOW 3D YOU BUY FUCKITY FUCK BLOW YOU MIND!"

Without some serious marketing, a dirt cheap (like $200) price tag or some big time games available at release, I don't see the Wii2 doing diddly squat with the market we have now.

[Yegolev]

An overpriced handheld with the gimmick of 3D added? Oh and it pretty much just seems like an overpriced iteration of a system that has already had too many releases with that brand name as it is? I imagine to most people (you know, fucking idiots), the 3DS sounds a lot like "this is the 3rd version of the console" more than "WOW 3D YOU BUY FUCKITY FUCK BLOW YOU MIND!"

Yea, but... Pokemon.

[Paelos]

Can we stop putting 3D on things, tech producers? It's not working for TV and it won't work here. I'm not going to wear retarded looking glasses to watch sports or play games, and no ESPN, I don't give a shit that you are broadcasting in 3D. This is not like HD. You can't sell me on this. Go away.

[01101010]

Been saying the same thing about 3d tv Paelos. The ONLY thing I could see it working for is movies at home. Sports? no. Regular programming? lol. maybe QVC?

[Yegolev]

I would pay to have the Three Stooges resurrected to shoot some 3D shorts.

[HaemishM]

Yeah, I'm on the fuck 3D if I have to wear glasses bandwagon. And really, for TV, I don't think delivering a 3D image on a 2D surface is really all that interesting. Either give me a goddamn GlobalNet creche or STFU.

[01101010]

Whatever happened to holograms? That shit was supposed to revolutionize entertainment when I was growing up... that and the flying car.

[Strazos]

I want my holodecks.

[Lantyssa]

Whatever happened to holograms? That shit was supposed to revolutionize entertainment when I was growing up... that and the flying car.

The cars all crashed from the drivers paying more attention to their holograms than the flightways.

[Rendakor]

An overpriced handheld with the gimmick of 3D added? Oh and it pretty much just seems like an overpriced iteration of a system that has already had too many releases with that brand name as it is? I imagine to most people (you know, fucking idiots), the 3DS sounds a lot like "this is the 3rd version of the console" more than "WOW 3D YOU BUY FUCKITY FUCK BLOW YOU MIND!"

Yea, but... Pokemon.

Pokemon Black/White aren't in 3D, and a new generation of Pokemon is at least a year away.