Not the Summer Expansion - supposedly free of pointless feature bloat

[eldaec]

size doesn't matter
reported by CCP Soundwave | 2011.02.10 17:29:06 | Comments
The past releases, Team Best Friends Forever has been working on large features, our latest being Incursions. Next release will be different though; next release we'll be trying to track down all the small things that annoy you and working to correct them.





Of course, it wouldn't be necessary choose between feature bloat and continuous improvement if it wasn't for the vast majority of staff being assigned to the ridiculous space barbie concept. But that aside, one must be happy with what one can attain, and given the circumstances this is broadly good news.

[MahrinSkel]

Translation: We're going to stop breaking shit and using Eve as our technology testbed, and actually fix some of the old stuff we broke and never bothered to deal with before.

--Dave

[Gets]

We've re-balanced officers so their difficulty reflects their value more.

Can't wait for the hilarious botting lossmails.

[ajax34i]

Translation: We're going to stop breaking shit and using Eve as our technology testbed, and actually fix some of the old stuff we broke and never bothered to deal with before.
--Dave

Well, they're currently changing / revamping core server software components, so I read this more as "we're going to try to fix some of the shit you players are whining about, to shut you up for when the new bugs hit."

[Numtini]

Did I miss something or does this mean walking around in stations isn't going to be ready for a while?

[eldaec]

Actually this shit is all listed for deployment on tuesday - seems they actually mean just this mini patch is free of pointless feature bloat.

[tgr]

When will the "there are only blues on this grid, stop shooting neutrals they're friendly! STOP SHOOTING!" bug be fixed?

[Phildo]

Shortly after you're able to make an overview that only shows war targets.

[Setanta]

I haven't been paying attention to the notes for some time - did rockets get fixed and ass-frigs get their missing slot (I think it was ass-frigs that seemed to be missing one)?

[Kitsune]

Rockets were buffed, assault frigates were not.

[Brolan]

I'm still waiting for something simple, like having a skill queue where you can load a bunch of skills, without that damn 24 hour rule.  And smart enough to not reject skills if the prerequisite skills are in the queue.

[Thrawn]

I'm still waiting for something simple, like having a skill queue where you can load a bunch of skills, without that damn 24 hour rule.  And smart enough to not reject skills if the prerequisite skills are in the queue.

With how long it took to get ANY queue I wouldn't hold my breath for the current one being made even less interactive. 

Although the prereq thing would be nice. :P

[eldaec]

The thing I hate about the 24 hour rule is that it is annoying as hell on a new character when everything you train is still 3 minutes 25 seconds.

It stops being a problem after 10 million or so skill points when you always have a 3 week level 5 to stick on the end of 24 hours of smaller skills.

[Gets]

Ungrateful people, itt.

[Sir T]

Did I miss something or does this mean walking around in stations isn't going to be ready for a while?

*dies of shock*

[Phildo]

The thing I hate about the 24 hour rule is that it is annoying as hell on a new character when everything you train is still 3 minutes 25 seconds..

Or you could be smart and have one skill that you set to level V at the end of each queue and keep pushing back until you're ready for it, in case you miss a day here and there.  Even one day old characters might want to start grinding away at Electronics V.

[Lum]

Someday, Cruise Missiles V, you will be mine! 

[eldaec]

When will the "there are only blues on this grid, stop shooting neutrals they're friendly! STOP SHOOTING!" bug be fixed?

This never happens to me, I'm starting to suspect it is just an excuse to shoot dbrb.

[tgr]

It's never boat that's neut though, always some scrub from some other alliance. vOv

[Endie]

Holy crap they seem to be genuinely serious about incarna: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=860

[Thrawn]

Holy crap they seem to be genuinely serious about incarna: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=860

Seems like it will be cool the first time you look at it, and after 5 minutes the novelty will wear off and you will never use it again.  But it could have some good potential if they expand on it, I already can imagine corp recruitment adds you can view in your quarters from Goon recruitment scammers.  

[tgr]

"If they expand on it".

Gee. I wonder where I've heard that phrase before.

[Numtini]

Incarna is Second Life for Eve.

People don't want to look at an avatar looking at a corp recruitment advert on a avatar-tv screen in an avatar-room. They want to look at a corp recruitment advert in a window, preferably in a browser window out of game.

Almost every killer app for Incarna is a great idea, but belongs in Eve gate.

[tgr]

Second life? And we can't even make it rain penises?

[eldaec]

You clearly don't fly a thorax.

[tgr]

I used to, but thoraxes don't fit around inside stations. Sadly.

[Brolan]

Is this going to end up like STO, where I have to pointlessly memorize and run around stations to do what I want, instead of clicking on a handy interface?  I'm thinking all this effort could be used to clean up old bugs and bring up the ship models to the standards of the Primae and Noctis.

[Numtini]

Is this going to end up like STO, where I have to pointlessly memorize and run around stations to do what I want, instead of clicking on a handy interface?  I'm thinking all this effort could be used to clean up old bugs and bring up the ship models to the standards of the Primae and Noctis.

Thta's been my fear, though with me dating to E&B not STO. The CSM told them in no uncertain terms that this was not what players wanted, but promises that the interface would remain the same have now drifted to stating it won't take any more time to do things than previously.

[Sir T]

Which probably means that once you have run to the right shop that has the service you want, things will take the same time as previously. And they will have to have no collision detection in stations or people will simply have their accounts blocking access to the in station services to everyone else 23/7, so you will have 10 people sharing the same body and people screaming about lack of realism

[eldaec]

I suspect they mean that you access the existing ship spinning functions from the horrible 'cabin' interface they've been showing off.

If you think of one of those crappy 1990s menu systems where you pick a function by clicking randomly on indistinguishable objects or doors you'd be in the right area.

[Vedi]

Eve Bob?

[Endie]

Which probably means that once you have run to the right shop that has the service you want, things will take the same time as previously. And they will have to have no collision detection in stations or people will simply have their accounts blocking access to the in station services to everyone else 23/7, so you will have 10 people sharing the same body and people screaming about lack of realism

They've said the remaining means of doing everything necessary to fly your spaceship will remain.  So no.

[IainC]

I used to, but thoraxes don't fit around inside stations. Sadly.

That's what she said.

[tgr]

They've said the remaining means of doing everything necessary to fly your spaceship will remain.  So no.

Technically they've also said that the dominion sov system would have treaties etc.

[Endie]

They've said the remaining means of doing everything necessary to fly your spaceship will remain.  So no.

Technically they've also said that the dominion sov system would have treaties etc.

That inability to go the extra mile is exactly why we're safe.