Urine Therapy...

[Vision]

I generally regard the posters on this forum as smarter than the average intraweb user, even if I am not, which is why I am posting this here.
Anyway, the story goes like this. In an effort to get rid of my allergies, which have ruined family vacations, trips abroad, and kept my roommates awake at night with my coughing, and inevitably grossed them out every morning when I hack up phlem, I have been directed to every kind of homeopathic wack job under the sun. I've been shocked, pounded, hooked up to a laptop running windows 98 and zapped, put drops under my tongue, and given every type of natural supplement you can imagine. Well anyway, all of that was complete bullshit, because it hasn't worked, so I decided to go for something more aligned with medical science (which hasn't worked either so far).

I meet with this lady who by far seems the most legit out of any of the other doctors. She's taking snot samples, interviewing me for an hour, letting me see the stuff under a microscope, and it all sounds very science-ey and whatever. I was told she gives injections every so often depending on the results of your blood work. So when I sit down for the first injection, she tells me to fill a cup with piss, which I do, then come back. Meanwhile I don't know why, and when she starts filling up the syringe with a CC of my piss, I have a few eyebrows raised. She filtered it through some strainer attached to the syringe, then shot it in my ass. I'm supposed to come back once a week for the shot.

A: Has anyone ever tried this?
B: Is this as ridiculous as everything else?
C: Is it worth giving a shot to avoid a lifetime of inhalers and anti-biotics?

[Ironwood]

I'm Out.

[rattran]

I think is a better spot for this.
And... eww.

[bhodi]

No. There's no such thing as being "aligned with medical science". There is science and then there is pseudoscience. My BS detector has gone through the roof and I highly suspect google will tell you this is complete shit and you are one gullible (and sadly, desperate) guy. Seriously. Using a microsope and syringe and trying to couch it in medical terminology just makes it more suspect. At best, it does nothing but engage the placebo effect. Someone who "seems legit" is simply better at selling their particular brand of pseudoscience.

But don't take my word for it, spend an hour browsing through PubMed for urine therapy.

If you are desperate to get outside of mainstream but along something that is fairly scientifically documented (though still not condoned) get yourself infected with hookworm instead.

[Vision]

No. There's no such thing as being "aligned with medical science". There is science and then there is pseudoscience. My BS detector has gone through the roof and I highly suspect google will tell you this is complete shit and you are one gullible (and sadly, desperate) guy. Seriously.

If you are desperate to get outside of mainstream but along something that is fairly scientifically documented (though still not condoned) get yourself infected with hookworm instead.

Did the shots, took the tests. "Mainstream" science gives me allegra D, albuterol, Advair, and tells me to take benedryl whenever I have a problem, which isn't happening since it makes me feel worse than if I was just suffering from allergies. So "desperate" is correct. 

[Arthur_Parker]

Have you checked for toxic mold?

[Simond]

Someone is taking the piss here.

[01101010]

It's fucking lupus. 

[Sir T]

To be honest it wont harm you as Urine is sterile, but I cant really see the benefits of this as all that will happen is the Urea will just get strained out of the blood through the kidneys again.

There is a theory that allergies are really the immune system going a little crazy as it hasn't been stimulated by contact with bacteria in our sterile environment. So I'd be more in favour of the hookworm stuff mentioned above. But hey, don't even begin to pretend we have a clue what we are talking about.

And Lupus is actually something you should get checked out for. My Sister had it and nearly died from it.

[Lantyssa]

I'd tell her to piss off.

[Nebu]

So much I could say... instead:

See your GP and get a referral to an allergist. 

[Morat20]

Did the shots, took the tests. "Mainstream" science gives me allegra D, albuterol, Advair, and tells me to take benedryl whenever I have a problem, which isn't happening since it makes me feel worse than if I was just suffering from allergies. So "desperate" is correct. 

This will not help, unless your problem is "having too much money".

Taking a sugar pill will make you feel considerably better, with lower side effects, than injecting yourself with your own urine.

Here's a hint: Homeopathic means "fraud". This lady? Fraud. The guys prescribing you Zyrtec? Actual doctors. In your case, you may have to choose between different forms of misery, but they're not miracle workers.

If you've had the allergen tests, you know what you're allergic to. Move somewhere it isn't.

[Vision]

Did some research, concluded that you're probably right, its majorly bullshit. It was my initial feeling from the start, but then I found articles throwing around the word "Mexico" and concluded that this is crap.

Maybe someday when they make documentaries about the massive scam of homeopathic medicine, I could totally be interviewed as the utmost guinea pig who was at the shitty end of all this nonsense. Anyway, at least it is a story. And I've had the allgergn tests, and am literally allergic to every tree in he midwest, including most types of grass, mold, dander, and dust. It isn't possible to escape it.

[Samwise]

So much I could say...

Tease.   

[K9]

No. There's no such thing as being "aligned with medical science". There is science and then there is pseudoscience. My BS detector has gone through the roof and I highly suspect google will tell you this is complete shit and you are one gullible (and sadly, desperate) guy. Seriously.

If you are desperate to get outside of mainstream but along something that is fairly scientifically documented (though still not condoned) get yourself infected with hookworm instead.

Did the shots, took the tests. "Mainstream" science gives me allegra D, albuterol, Advair, and tells me to take benedryl whenever I have a problem, which isn't happening since it makes me feel worse than if I was just suffering from allergies. So "desperate" is correct.  

Not all problems have solutions, sorry.

Dara O'Briain sums up pseudoscience better than anyone else I know

edit: Wait, did this woman give you an intramuscular injection of your own piss?

[Oban]

Thank you Vision, now I have something new to talk about during cocktail parties.

[Ruvaldt]

You could always infect yourself with hookworms.  Some people swear they work for severe allergies: a New York Times article on the subject

I heard about this on NPR.  I think it was an episode of Radiolab that covered the subject of parasites.

[Sand]

I have been directed to every kind of homeopathic wack job under the sun.

A: Has anyone ever tried this?
B: Is this as ridiculous as everything else?
C: Is it worth giving a shot to avoid a lifetime of inhalers and anti-biotics?

Try going to a real doctor not some homeopathy crap?

No, More so, Whatever floats your boat....you should try ear candling and letting some one read the bumps on your head next.

[Lantyssa]

And I've had the allgergn tests, and am literally allergic to every tree in he midwest, including most types of grass, mold, dander, and dust. It isn't possible to escape it.

Sounds like the Sahara is the place for you then.

I've heard of the hookworm treatments before.  It's interesting, but something I'd want to research thoroughly and have my doctor in agreement on before trying.  Really, as Nebu said, get an appointment with a specialist through your GP.

[Engels]

You could always infect yourself with hookworms.  Some people swear they work for severe allergies: a New York Times article on the subject

I heard about this on NPR.  I think it was an episode of Radiolab that covered the subject of parasites.

this. Mind you, they are illegal in the US, so you would have to go abroad.

[Vision]

Meh, at first glance hook worm sounds worse than shooting urine into my ass. But who could really say either way? I suppose my initial questions were out of desperate hope, which is now painfully real.

At least I didn't go ahead with the ozone treatment....

[Oban]

ozone treatment....

[Ironwood]

At least you have now coined the phrase "Don't give me Urine Therapy and then tell me it's Rain" in my household.

Well done.

[Morat20]

Anyway, at least it is a story. And I've had the allgergn tests, and am literally allergic to every tree in he midwest, including most types of grass, mold, dander, and dust. It isn't possible to escape it.

Move out of the midwest.

My son is allergic to practically every form of grass known to man. My wife? Allergic to half the trees that exist. They're miserable about three months a year, though Zyrtec does a lot to keep that down. You have to take antihistimines daily, and for awhile, before they start making a dent on those allergies.

I should move to New Mexico. I was shocked at how I suddenly didn't have allergies out there.

[Engels]

And I've had the allgergn tests, and am literally allergic to every tree in he midwest, including most types of grass, mold, dander, and dust. It isn't possible to escape it.

GF's allergic to most of what you cite, and she's lived a relatively allergy free life in the pacific northwest. Due to the constant rain, there's less floating dust/pollen/dander in the air. She cannot really live anywhere else other than here.

[stu]

Holy Fuck, dude. You paid someone to inject your own piss into your ass and it wasn't even sexual.

[ghost]

You could always infect yourself with hookworms.  Some people swear they work for severe allergies: a New York Times article on the subject

I heard about this on NPR.  I think it was an episode of Radiolab that covered the subject of parasites.

Well sign me right the fuck up.  What the hell.   

[Sir T]

And I've had the allgergn tests, and am literally allergic to every tree in he midwest, including most types of grass, mold, dander, and dust. It isn't possible to escape it.

GF's allergic to most of what you cite, and she's lived a relatively allergy free life in the pacific northwest. Due to the constant rain, there's less floating dust/pollen/dander in the air. She cannot really live anywhere else other than here.

Based on this I'd be looking to move to the pacific north west.

Its got to be better than getting injected up the ass with your own piss. And paying for it.

[Vision]

Holy Fuck, dude. You paid someone to inject your own piss into your ass and it wasn't even sexual.

Unknowingly, I didn't go there under the pretense of thinking I was going to get injected with piss. I was told she treated allergies by injections, all I knew, and I figued that sounded more legit than holding onto some rod hooked up to a laptop so someone can "zap" your allergies away (stupid on my part). I had already been there for almost 2 hours, and was stuck paying for the consultation anyway, so by the time I found about this whole piss thing, my $ was already gone. It was stupid of me either way, obviously.

[Oban]

... was stuck paying for the consultation anyway, so by the time I found about this whole piss thing...

I am not going to derail this thread away from the discussion of the positives and negatives of urinating in to rectums, but there is something seriously wrong with alternative medical treatments done for profit akin to operating a church for profit.

[Vision]

... was stuck paying for the consultation anyway, so by the time I found about this whole piss thing...

I am not going to derail this thread away from the discussion of the positives and negatives of urinating in to rectums, but there is something seriously wrong with alternative medical treatments done for profit akin to operating a church for profit.

I agree, and had I not been skeptical about the whole thing, I sure wouldn't be telling the unforgiving internet about the experience unless I had wanted to make sure the money I "pissed" away wasn't totally for nothing.

[Sheepherder]

In an effort to get rid of my allergies, which have ruined family vacations, trips abroad, and kept my roommates awake at night with my coughing, and inevitably grossed them out every morning when I hack up phlem, I have been directed to every kind of homeopathic wack job under the sun. I've been shocked, pounded, hooked up to a laptop running windows 98 and zapped, put drops under my tongue, and given every type of natural supplement you can imagine. Well anyway, all of that was complete bullshit, because it hasn't worked, so I decided to go for something more aligned with medical science (which hasn't worked either so far).

I meet with this lady who by far seems the most legit out of any of the other doctors. She's taking snot samples, interviewing me for an hour, letting me see the stuff under a microscope, and it all sounds very science-ey and whatever. I was told she gives injections every so often depending on the results of your blood work. So when I sit down for the first injection, she tells me to fill a cup with piss, which I do, then come back. Meanwhile I don't know why, and when she starts filling up the syringe with a CC of my piss, I have a few eyebrows raised. She filtered it through some strainer attached to the syringe, then shot it in my ass. I'm supposed to come back once a week for the shot.

A: Has anyone ever tried this?
B: Is this as ridiculous as everything else?
C: Is it worth giving a shot to avoid a lifetime of inhalers and anti-biotics?

You should have come to the experts at F13 earlier.

1. Homeopathy is nonsense.  Completely based on placebo effect, unless they raise concentrations in solutions, in which case they may literally be poisoning you.  People often cite the founder's success at treating patients, while neglecting to mention the fact that he was unique in the medical profession of his time for recommending that people not wallow in their own filth when sick.

2. Electro-convulsive therapy works for some psychological problems, including a number of anxiety and depressive disorders.  However if it's done right it has the same effect on your brain that a degaussing coil has on a TV.  If you leave shock therapy and aren't completely fucked up and incapable of forming coherent thought you didn't get a correct dose, because the purpose of the therapy is pretty much to wipe your brain fucking clean of accumulated electrochemical charge.

3. Pounded?  If that's your thing I'd recommend going to a roadhouse and growing some beer muscles.

4. A laptop based ECT device?

5. Drops under your tongue is standard homeopathy.  The solutions they use are chemically indistinguishable from water.  Unless they're using high concentrations, see #1.

5. Natural supplements?  As is herbs?  Mostly harmless if they're not prescribing nightshade or some shit.  Maybe even helpful, some herbs contain natural analogues to real medicines, or contain important but rare nutrients.

6. Piss lady is retarded.

Go to a real doctor, work your way through the list of drugs and see what works best.  Eat more fruit, fatty acids, and take a multi-vitamin heavy on Vitamins C, B, and D to get some of those opportunistic infections in your sinuses to fuck off (C only affects immune system function when it's deficient, but it also acts as an antihistamine).

[sinij]

Your allergies have very real solution - its called immunotherapy. It works by injecting you with low doses of allergens to gradually desensitize you to whatever causes you to cough (like pollen, cedar, cats, tobacco and so on), you can expect nearly complete recovery within a year. For this to work you will need to get injections EVERY WEEK for LONG TIME, and first couple months without any noticeable difference (because most immunologists are too afraid of lawsuits and ramp up doses way to slow). You can also reduce your allergies by moving away or eliminating the source of your allergens. Do you own a cat or dog? Is there mold growing in your basement? Do you have cedars on your property?

If not that, adrenaline will also relive your symptoms, and it is ENTIRELY up to you how you get yours.

You can also try Apitherapy (bee venom), histamine jolt derived from bee venom supposedly inhibits receptors responsible for inflammation/allergy process.

Falling that, start taking heavy steroids (corticosteroids that also used in treating asthma), get your immune system completely fucked and die from trivial infection (but allergy free!) within 20 years.

Your choice, but dude, don't get urine involved in this, unless its for your own sick pleasure.

[sinij]

You could always infect yourself with hookworms.  Some people swear they work for severe allergies: a New York Times article on the subject

I heard about this on NPR.  I think it was an episode of Radiolab that covered the subject of parasites.

You generally don't have allergies when you are seriously ill/dying from something because your immune system does prioritize and keeping you alive takes precedent over fighting off pollen.

[IainC]

Homeopathy can apparently help with gunshot wounds, missing children, homelessness, unemployment and rape.

   
    * In one year 85,000 Americans were wounded by firearms, of which 38,000 die, 2,600 children. Homeopathy could have helped with ledum pelustre , aconitum napellum, arnica Montana and individualized constitutional treatments.
   
    * 150,000 American children are reported missing every year. 50,000 of these simply vanish. Their ages range from one year to mid-teens. According to the New York Times, “Some of these are dead, perhaps half of the John and Jane Does annually buried in this country are unidentified kids.” Homeopathy could have helped with individualized treatments. Homeopathy could have helped with remedies like Absin. Cimic. OP. Phos. Plb. Rhus-t. Staph. Stram., Falco-p, and Magnesium muriaticum

    * 700,000 American women were raped, one every 45 seconds. Homeopathy could have helped with remedies such as Staphysagria, AIDS Cench. Kreos. LSD. Petr. Posit. Sep.
   

    * 2,000,000 or more Americans are homeless, forced to live on the streets or in makeshift shelters. Homeopathy could have helped with remedies such as Selenium metallicum., Calcareaa, and Silicea.
   

In one year 3,000,000 American workers were unemployed but not counted because their unemployment benefits had run out, or they never qualified for benefits, or they had given up looking for work, or they joined the armed forces because they were unable to find work. Homeopathy could have helped with remedies such as Arg-n. Cadm-s. Calc. Cham. Cygnus-b. Gran. Hyos. Ind. Kali-c. Kali-p. Kali-s. Nat-m. Nux-v. Petr. Puls. Ran-b. Sanic. Sel. Sil. Sulph. Tab. Tarax. And Tong.

In one year 6,000,000 Americans were in “contingent” jobs, or jobs structured to last only temporarily. About 60 percent of these reportedly would prefer permanent employment.
Homeopathy could have helped.