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I'll roll my eyes as Unicron is defeated in some inane and implausible explosion without eating any planets, but I'm 36 and understand it's not for me. The son will adore it, though.
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Sir T
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But.. but... ITS IN THREEEEEEEEDEEEEEE!!!!
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HaemishM
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Oy.
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Yeah, that looks like a winner....
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Sir T
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You know, the sheer awfulness was such that I only noticed after the fact that they had a trailer for international distribution say thinks like "Our nations greatest achievement" rather than, say, "mankinds greatest achievement." Oh and made national US heros, Niel Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, out to be fucking liars.
So, its a trailer built to piss off everyone on the planet. Nice one marketing!
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WindupAtheist
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You know, the sheer awfulness was such that I only noticed after the fact that they had a trailer for international distribution say thinks like "Our nations greatest achievement" rather than, say, "mankinds greatest achievement." Stuff like this never matters outside of internet forums. Independence Day is pretty much the most "Woo America!" sci-fi action movie of all time, and it made two-thirds of it's money overseas. Oh and made national US heros, Niel Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, out to be fucking liars.
So, its a trailer built to piss off everyone on the planet. Nice one marketing! Man half the dipshits in this country couldn't even tell you who landed on the moon, much less take offense at the idea that they kept a giant space robot secret.
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Sir T
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Actually most people went to independence day to watch the white house get blown to shit. Seriously that scene got pretty much Universal cheers. But yeah ok. Good point.
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IainC
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Man half the dipshits in this country couldn't even tell you who landed on the moon, much less take offense at the idea that they kept a giant space robot secret.
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Personally, I'm looking forward to this about as much as being kicked in the balls. YMMV.
I dunno. I kinda want to see if Bay can turn this shit around. I liked the first movie well enough, hated most of the 2nd, so... gah. No doubt it's going to make bank though. Bay could film himself taking a shit and make several hundred million dollars.
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Bay could film himself taking a shit and make several hundred million dollars.
This is why he gets to make these movies however he wants.
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Ratman_tf
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Yep. The only way to fuck up a movie about a huge invasion of earth by Decepticons is to have Michael Bay direct it.
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Trippy
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It can't be any worse than the second one, right? Right?
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Ratman_tf
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It can't be any worse than the second one, right? Right?
Bay has said that the writer's strike was hard on the story, and that he's going to have a lot less goofy crap in the third one. The wigger twins are gone, for example. We'll see though. He might just find new ways to fuck it up.
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Lakov_Sanite
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It's still more about the humans than the fucking transformers(which don't seem to even be transforming anymore) so it's gonna suck.
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Merusk
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That's an intentional shift. The audiences complained there was too much about the robots in #2 and not enough focus on Spike or something like that. I'm not remembering where I heard that, though. You have to remember they've been financially sucessful because they HAVEN'T focused on things that geeks want to see, because those repel or confuse the larger audiences.
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Ratman_tf
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It's still more about the humans than the fucking transformers(which don't seem to even be transforming anymore) so it's gonna suck.
It could be set on Cybertron and have no humans at all and still suck.
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Ratman_tf
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That's an intentional shift. The audiences complained there was too much about the robots in #2 and not enough focus on Spike or something like that. I'm not remembering where I heard that, though. You have to remember they've been financially sucessful because they HAVEN'T focused on things that geeks want to see, because those repel or confuse the larger audiences.
Exactly. That's why I think (and hope) Unicron never shows up. He's just too neckbeardy a concept for the mass market.
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Lakov_Sanite
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The first movie was successful but how big was the second? I'm willing to to bet there was a drop off which will even be more pronounced in the third. I'm not the biggest transformers geek but I still don't recall anyone looking fondly on the second one and even the first doesn't get higher praise than " it was good"
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Ingmar
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The first movie was successful but how big was the second? I'm willing to to bet there was a drop off which will even be more pronounced in the third. I'm not the biggest transformers geek but I still don't recall anyone looking fondly on the second one and even the first doesn't get higher praise than " it was good"
According to IMDB, the 2nd one was $130 million dollars more successful than the first one... which made $700 million worldwide.
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Merusk
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Yep. Oh, and I found at least one reference to refocusing on humans. A LeBoff interview: http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/109/1090073p1.htmlAlso: The woman replacing Fox isn't nearly as attractive(imo), but still isn't bad when you find shots of her not dolled-up in creepy faux-teen ways. Rosie Huntington-Whiteley
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Lakov_Sanite
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This really baffles me because I don't ever hear people praising these movies.
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Trippy
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It's a Summer Blockbuster Movie -- it doesn't have to be "good" just mindlessly entertaining.
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Ratman_tf
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It's a Summer Blockbuster Movie -- it doesn't have to be "good" just mindlessly entertaining.
Yeah. The question is how good of a Transformer movie are we going to get mixed in with our mindless summer action event flick.
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Sir T
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MournelitheCalix
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This really baffles me because I don't ever hear people praising these movies.
I will offer one praise to these movies, the police car's motto was pure fucking gold: "To punish and enslave"
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Sir T
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Yeah, but that was in the first movie.
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Riggswolfe
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The first movie was fun. Hell I even have it on DVD somewhere.
The second movie was pure shit from start to finish. I can be mind numbingly bored and flipping channels and I might pause for half a second if I see it's Transformer's 2 then change the channel to something more intelligent like Jersey Shore. Ok, I lie. I'd never watch Jersey Shore but you get the point.
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Ironwood
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I agree. The first one, while having flaws, wasn't that bad.
2 was Brain Cancer.
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KallDrexx
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While I do agree that 2 was as a whole, shit, I did really like how they had the long CGI fights that did not involve constantly cutting from different angles and keeping one perspective for good 30 seconds straight
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Lakov_Sanite
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While I do agree that 2 was as a whole, shit, I did really like how they had the long CGI fights that did not involve constantly cutting from different angles and keeping one perspective for good 30 seconds straight
oh yes, i love two piles of nearly identical mechanical parts tumbling around in such a way that even without the camera moving I can't tell what the fuck is going on.
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