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ghost
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Reply #350 on: January 23, 2012, 07:24:36 AM

Yeah, with my Fleet Captains it wasn't bad enough that the tiles were thin pieces of shit, they had to cut them wrong so that they don't match.  These stupid Clix figures drive up the price on the game so much that everything else has to be a complete piece of junk.

I have Dungeon Twister, but haven't played it yet.  That's next on my list of games to play.
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Reply #351 on: January 23, 2012, 07:18:11 PM

Anybody got any good ideas for the storage of Dominion other than the trays in the boxes?  I love the setup with Thunderstone (meaning the index tab cards) and I've condensed everything down into two of the boxes.  I have too many games and need to consolidate some more.
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Reply #352 on: January 23, 2012, 08:51:05 PM

You have now touched on why I refuse to own Dominion. You should see the alternative boxes Gary Games came up with for Ascension.

It's a shame Rio Grande Games doesn't know what an "accessory" is.
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Reply #353 on: January 24, 2012, 10:48:07 AM

Thunderstone, Ascension and Nightfall all have very nice storage mechanisms.  I'm a bit worried about how they'll do when I sleeve them, however. 

I guess I'll have to come up with some decent separator cards on my own, but I just don't want to put a lot of work into it. 
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Reply #354 on: January 24, 2012, 11:04:27 AM

ghost
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Reply #355 on: January 24, 2012, 11:18:34 AM

Oh wow.  Those are nice. 

As popular as Dominion is I'm surprised that some third party hasn't come up with a good storage solution.
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Reply #356 on: January 24, 2012, 11:21:52 AM

I've found that since your average part for a board game is worth exactly dick compared to say Magic cards, that board game players don't care about that sort of shit. Also, they relish in knowing that they have 8 giant fucking boxes all contributing to the same game.

In other words, they're awful. Ascension was designed in part by Magic players, they probably demanded both card size, storage solutions, and sleeves upon release.
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Reply #357 on: January 24, 2012, 11:29:54 AM

Really?  Most board gamers that I have been associated seem to be the "collector" types, as so many of these games go out of print.  Of course I really doubt that Dominion will go out of print anytime soon.  
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Reply #358 on: January 24, 2012, 12:19:45 PM

Collector type, yes. Most organized or efficient type? Not a million years. Look at the sleeves made available for Board Games. Fantasy Flights are shitty and inconsistent. Mayday Games sleeves are absolute trash in every way imaginable.

I LOVE it when I open a game and cards are Magic sized. That should be the gold standard for cards in any card game. Mostly because there's a million great ways to store cards of that size.

FFG can eat my ass with their card sizing. I don't care if a game comes with 400 Magic-sized cards. It's better than 200 tiny illegible cards.
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Reply #359 on: January 24, 2012, 01:13:14 PM

What?  You don't like Talisman 4th edition sized cards?   Ohhhhh, I see.

I need to put together a few entry level Magic: the Gathering decks.  Any thoughts?
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Reply #360 on: January 24, 2012, 01:32:30 PM

Go to a store, ask them for the free Planeswalker decks. They are the definition of entry-level.
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Reply #361 on: January 24, 2012, 02:06:03 PM

What?  Free?   Heart
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Reply #362 on: January 24, 2012, 02:37:56 PM

Correct. They're 40 cards, common and uncommon. Between the 5 packs (one for each color), it has all relevant core set keywords, I think. At least they did 2 years ago when I last looked at a pack. They update them every year too!
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Reply #363 on: January 24, 2012, 07:23:47 PM

Cool.  I'll check that out.  While I'm thinking about it, what card sleeves do you typically recommend?  To sleeve something like Dominion in its entirely I think it's probably Mayday or nothing due to the cost.   ACK!
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Reply #364 on: January 24, 2012, 07:26:36 PM

I buy KMC Matte Blacks by the case for Magic, which I in turn use for almost everything else.

80 sleeves per pack for 10 packs (so 800 sleeves) at $53 is an amazing price: http://www.potomacdist.com/list.asp?code=4040&f=1

Potomac Distribution only sells by the case/(or 1/3 case). Here's the board game sleeves, which are Ultra Pro: http://www.potomacdist.com/list.asp?code=4072

On the left side they also sell FFG sleeves and such at amazing prices. Full disclosure: Guy who runs it is a family friend, but I didn't know that til after I'd ordered from him.
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Reply #365 on: January 24, 2012, 08:18:18 PM

I have a bunch of the black ultra pro standard sized protectors, they seem pretty good.

The KMC sleeves are pretty expensive here. ($10 for 80 v $4 for 50)

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Reply #366 on: January 24, 2012, 08:23:05 PM

If you shuffle a lot, you'll want to stay away from Ultra Pro. Also their quality control has gone down. I go through tens of thousands of sleeves a year, KMC Matte sleeves are where it's at. They wear evenly, show less finger schmutz and feel amazing.
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Reply #367 on: January 24, 2012, 08:27:36 PM

That's a lot of sleeves. You must spend a lot of time putting stuff in and out of 'em. Any recommendations on clear standard poker sized sleeves? (2.5in x 3.5in or 63mm x 89mm) I need to get a bunch so I can test out double sized card stuff.

Edit: Excuse me for being an idiot. Haven't played with physical magic cards in a long long time. Didn't realise they were those dimensions.
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Reply #368 on: January 25, 2012, 06:06:29 AM

Oh wow.  Those are nice. 

As popular as Dominion is I'm surprised that some third party hasn't come up with a good storage solution.

I doubt the guy in our group that owns Dominion even knows where the box it came in went. He had to get special sized sleeves for the cards of course, but did.
Now its kept in a standard long white card box, sorted alphabetically with 26 handmade little divider tabs, plus a few more for the coins/points/etc. We keep the deck of single samples in a seperate card box, and just pull ten out of that, sort a to z, and pull the matching cards from the box.

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Reply #369 on: January 25, 2012, 06:14:54 AM

That's what I'm probably going to have to do.  I just hate those white cardboard card storage boxes.  

And I think the key here to schild's hatred of certain sleeves is the shuffling.  Some games are okay to sleeve with not so great sleeves because you aren't shuffling them a ton (e.g. Race for the Galaxy).  I'm going to order some of those and check them out.  Thanks for the recommendations.  

That's a lot of sleeves. You must spend a lot of time putting stuff in and out of 'em. Any recommendations on clear standard poker sized sleeves? (2.5in x 3.5in or 63mm x 89mm) I need to get a bunch so I can test out double sized card stuff.

And I know this is Mayday, but here is a very comprehensive list of what size cards/sleeves you will need.  Again, if you aren't shuffling a lot sometimes the cheap Maydays are the way to go. 
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Reply #370 on: January 25, 2012, 04:32:56 PM

Out of nowhere, EEE has said they have received more copies of Cave Evil. Immediately purchased.

http://www.cave-evil.com

It looks like this:
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Reply #371 on: January 25, 2012, 06:55:12 PM

Looks like an interesting game, but god, those colours and the card layouts? I've got a headache already.
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Reply #372 on: January 25, 2012, 08:07:55 PM

Yes, they did a great job sticking to the death metal theme.
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Reply #373 on: January 26, 2012, 06:53:07 AM

Yeah, I bought a copy.  Should be here soon.   awesome, for real
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Reply #374 on: January 26, 2012, 07:05:51 AM

Glad my post sold another copy. I'm not sure what the demand is for ridiculous shit like that. I'd imagine, not very high.
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Reply #375 on: January 26, 2012, 09:55:20 AM

Damn you Schild for making me notice the abnormal card sizes in some of my games.  Makes me like Dominion less just realizing that (although I think we are mostly over that anyways, got "meh" pretty fast)

Now I'll probably be research that in anything else I buy before I even consider it.  awesome, for real

That Cave-Evil looks....interesting.  But I just don't think we game enough to spend $70.00 on a board game.  sad
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Reply #376 on: January 26, 2012, 10:00:32 AM

Oh, Dominion is super overrated. I'll take Ascension any day over it.

A Few Acres of Snow, however, is absolutely amazing. And the card size is awkward and shitty.
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Reply #377 on: January 26, 2012, 12:23:30 PM

Godammot schild, stop posting these other things and post super dungeon explore pictures and reports instead.  I've waited decades for a good heroquest successor.
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Reply #378 on: January 26, 2012, 12:30:00 PM

I'm missing figures from my fucking box and gluing them all together has taken 2 weeks and I'm not done yet.

That game's construction is bullshit.
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Reply #379 on: January 26, 2012, 12:33:10 PM

Wow, that is pretty bullshit.  I'd heard that some people had gotten minis that were difficult to assemble, but not outright missing parts.
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Reply #380 on: January 26, 2012, 12:40:11 PM

Anyone have thoughts on FFG's Lord of the Rings LCG?  I'm considering acquiring a copy to stave off my card/board-game addiction without having to drag the Mrs. into the fray every time I need a hit.

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Reply #381 on: January 26, 2012, 12:46:22 PM

A friend is trying to get me into Warmachine.

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Reply #382 on: January 26, 2012, 01:27:49 PM

Anyone have thoughts on FFG's Lord of the Rings LCG?  I'm considering acquiring a copy to stave off my card/board-game addiction without having to drag the Mrs. into the fray every time I need a hit.

I got the base game as a gift for xmas. I pretty much never play board/card games, but I thought it might be nice to try something new. The Fiancee and I have played maybe 5 or 6 times. We like it! Once we had the rules and mechanics all figured out, I was pretty surprised at how much if felt like an RPG. We have yet to try the 3rd quest, but I'm sure we will soon. As a neophyte to any type of game discussed in this thread, and playing with someone who has pretty much 0 experience I would recommend it. YMMV.

We also got the Penny Arcade card game, but have yet to play it.
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Reply #383 on: January 26, 2012, 04:09:02 PM

I'm done buying MayDay Games stuff. They just have the worst quality control on Earth. Ordered Terra Evolution from their Kickstarter Campaign. They sent the wrong goddamn sleeves for the game (but now they'll discount the right size heavily if you order them) and my box - of which there were very few copies of the game available to begin with), came dented, torn, and creased.

I can tolerate low quality worksmanship (particularly on things published on a shoe string - see Cave Evil), but these sort of fuckups just drive me absolutely bonkers.
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Reply #384 on: January 26, 2012, 08:04:04 PM

Glad my post sold another copy. I'm not sure what the demand is for ridiculous shit like that. I'd imagine, not very high.

Oh, you don't get the credit for it.  I bought it several weeks ago.   Ohhhhh, I see.

The only thing I get from Mayday is their cheap sleeves, which seem to work pretty well for me.  I much prefer them to their "premium" sleeves.  But yeah, almost everything else they do is shite and their packing for shipping is horrid.
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