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Reply #2275 on: March 06, 2017, 07:24:33 PM

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Reply #2276 on: March 06, 2017, 09:36:45 PM

Also seemed a bit overrated.  Just Dominion with better theming.
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Reply #2277 on: March 06, 2017, 09:59:09 PM

If you want to call Thunderstone theming, sure. It's like the bland fantasy equivalent of Dominion.

Isn't this the one with a big drafting element though? I don't even remember.
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Reply #2278 on: March 06, 2017, 10:15:40 PM

Better theming, but a much, much worse game with unnecessarily clunky rules. With that said, this new edition does seem to do away with some of the most onerous examples, and it's relatively slim pickings as far as competitive deck building dungeon crawlers go.

Though if you just want a deckbuilder with a fantasy theme, I'd play any of Aeon's End, Shadowrift, Foe Hunters, or Hero Realms before playing Thunderstone, though it's worth noting that of those, only Hero Realms is competitive.

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Reply #2279 on: March 06, 2017, 10:23:00 PM

EDIT: CAVEAT - this seems to be a micro version of regular omen. Only a couple dozen cards. Not sure what the deal is with this one. I own like 4 different versions of Omen.

Just buy Omen.

https://www.smallboxgames.com/omen-edge-of-the-aegean

That tiny box has more card game gameplay than most Magic sets (most recent Magic sets).
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Reply #2280 on: March 06, 2017, 10:48:46 PM

It's a standalone expansion for Omen. There was a kickstarter for it that delivered a few months ago. No comment on quality because I've yet to get around to actually playing it or vanilla Omen yet.
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Reply #2281 on: March 07, 2017, 01:40:33 AM

It's a standalone expansion for Omen. There was a kickstarter for it that delivered a few months ago. No comment on quality because I've yet to get around to actually playing it or vanilla Omen yet.

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While Omen: Edge of the Aegean is a stand alone game, the cards included in this game can be used with Omen: A Reign of War.

At least theres that.
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Reply #2282 on: March 08, 2017, 12:55:57 AM

BGG voters think Scythe is the bee's knees.




2016 BoardGameGeek Winners & Runners Up

Board Game of the Year
Winner - Scythe
Runner Up - Terraforming Mars
Runner Up - Star Wars: Rebellion


2-Player Game
Winner - Star Wars: Rebellion
Runner Up - Arkham Horror: The Card Game
Runner Up - Hero Realms


Artwork & Presentation
Winner - Scythe
Runner Up - Mechs vs. Minions
Runner Up - Inis


Card Game
Winner - Arkham Horror: The Card Game
Runner Up - Sushi Go Party!
Runner Up - Clank!


Cooperative Game
Winner - Mechs vs. Minions
Runner Up - Mansions of Madness: Second Edition
Runner Up - Arkham Horror: The Card Game


Expansion
Winner - 7 Wonders Duel: Pantheon
Runner Up - T.I.M.E Stories: A Prophecy of Dragons
Runner Up - Dead of Winter: The Long Night


Family Game
Winner - Codenames: Pictures
Runner Up - Imhotep
Runner Up - Quadropolis


Innovative
Winner - Captain Sonar
Runner Up - Scythe
Runner Up - Vast: The Crystal Caverns


Party Game
Winner - Codenames: Pictures
Runner Up - Captain Sonar
Runner Up - Secret Hitler


Print & Play
Winner - Star Trek: The Dice Game
Runner Up - Mini Rogue
Runner Up - 30 Rails


Solo Game
Winner - Scythe
Runner Up - Terraforming Mars
Runner Up - Arkham Horror: The Card Game


Strategy Game
Winner - Scythe
Runner Up - Terraforming Mars
Runner Up - Great Western Trail


Thematic Game
Winner - Scythe
Runner Up - Star Wars: Rebellion
Runner Up - Mansions of Madness: Second Edition


Wargame
Winner - Falling Sky: The Gallic Revolt Against Caesar
Runner Up - Liberty or Death: The American Insurrection
Runner Up - Comanchería: The Rise and Fall of the Comanche Empire


Best Podcast
Winner - Shut Up & Sit Down: The Podcast!
Runner Up - Rahdo Talks Through
Runner Up - Ludology


Best Board Game App
Winner - Twilight Struggle
Runner Up - Patchwork
Runner Up - Mansions of Madness

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Reply #2283 on: March 08, 2017, 01:05:09 AM

I refuse to believe the Arkham Horror card game is good. Anyone here played it?
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Reply #2284 on: March 08, 2017, 01:37:23 AM

It is very good... for what it is, which is a cooperative thematic storytelling campaign experience in the Arkham universe. It's a big improvement over what they did with the Lord of the Rings CCG because it's campaign based instead of scenario based. LotR pretty much required you to construct a deck specifically for every scenario, which was an interesting puzzle, but it didn't feel very thematic. In Arkham, each investigator only gets to make very small tweaks to their deck in between each scenario in a campaign, so it feels a lot more like one character evolving over time, and they seem to be putting a lot of nice consequences for your choices down the line in the campaign.

It's the only game I'm playing at the moment other than Gloomhaven, which is pretty high praise for me, but you and I don't see eye to eye on cooperative/PvE things, so I'm not at all sure you'd enjoy it. The card pool is too shallow and the design in general isn't very Spike-friendly at the moment.
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Reply #2285 on: March 08, 2017, 01:39:31 AM

Also, Scythe's definitely a good game, but Great Western Trail still gets my vote for best game of 2016. And I'd place Colonists and Feast for Odin above it as well.
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Reply #2286 on: March 08, 2017, 01:42:51 AM

It is very good... for what it is, which is a cooperative thematic storytelling campaign experience in the Arkham universe. It's a big improvement over what they did with the Lord of the Rings CCG because it's campaign based instead of scenario based. LotR pretty much required you to construct a deck specifically for every scenario, which was an interesting puzzle, but it didn't feel very thematic. In Arkham, each investigator only gets to make very small tweaks to their deck in between each scenario in a campaign, so it feels a lot more like one character evolving over time, and they seem to be putting a lot of nice consequences for your choices down the line in the campaign.

It's the only game I'm playing at the moment other than Gloomhaven, which is pretty high praise for me, but you and I don't see eye to eye on cooperative/PvE things, so I'm not at all sure you'd enjoy it. The card pool is too shallow and the design in general isn't very Spike-friendly at the moment.
Yea we dont see eye to eye on this. This game sounds like total garbage. Heh.
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Reply #2287 on: March 08, 2017, 01:43:53 AM

It doesnt even sound like a card game. It sounds like a user-assistd shell script.
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Reply #2288 on: March 08, 2017, 08:07:42 AM

BGG users, as a faceless generalising force, have terrible taste for generic lifeless drek.

Expect poison from the standing water.
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Reply #2289 on: March 08, 2017, 09:11:02 AM

Its the pathfinder card game remade by the guy who did LotR and GoT card games. I've always found pathfinder style role playing card games tiresome but they appear to have become a thing.  

Also Arkham is a terrible theme but people have bad taste so....



Looking at that list makes 2016 a pretty mediocre year compared to 2015.

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Reply #2290 on: March 08, 2017, 10:40:52 AM

Calling Arkham Horror a remake of the Pathfinder card game is a pretty big stretch. Has someone said that in an interview I missed or something? It shares a lot more of its DNA with the LotR card game, which predates Pathfinder. The only way it veers more Pathfinder than LotR is that it layers a random number generator on top of the card based gameplay, though it uses a chit/bag system and not dice. And I agree that Pathfinder is mostly tiresome, but that's partly because the play is basically always the same in all of the scenarios, and partly because the D&D-esque dice system make your choices feel unimportant next to the luck of the roll. Arkham doesn't suffer as much from either of those problems. Scenarios vary wildly from each other (much like they did in LotR), and the luck of the chits you draw can be mitigated much more easily than Pathfinder's dice.

But yeah, if you don't like cooperatives, or hate the Arkham universe, it's not going to change your mind.

Also, I'm curious what exactly was so great about 2015? 2016 seemed like one of the best years in gaming to me. Here's 2015's list for comparison. Personally, I think both lists are poor representations of their year, but 2016's is still better than 2015's for me.

2015 BoardGameGeek Winners & Runners Up

Board Game of the Year
Winner - Pandemic Legacy: Season 1
Runner Up - Codenames
Runner Up - 7 Wonders Duel

2-Player Game
Winner - 7 Wonders Duel
Runner Up - Tides of Time
Runner Up - Baseball Highlights: 2045

Artwork & Presentation
Winner - Mysterium
Runner Up - T.I.M.E Stories
Runner Up - Above and Below

Card Game
Winner - 7 Wonders Duel
Runner Up - The Grizzled
Runner Up - Arboretum

Expansion
Winner - Ticket to Ride Map Collection: Volume 5 – United Kingdom & Pennsylvania
Runner Up - Roll for the Galaxy: Ambition
Runner Up - Five Tribes: The Artisans of Naqala

Family Game
Winner - Codenames
Runner Up - Mysterium
Runner Up - Between Two Cities

Innovative
Winner - Pandemic Legacy: Season 1
Runner Up - 504
Runner Up - T.I.M.E Stories

Party Game
Winner - Codenames
Runner Up - Mysterium
Runner Up - Flick 'em Up!

Print & Play
Winner - Dune: The Dice Game
Runner Up - Deep Space D-6
Runner Up - Beyond Baker Street

Solo Game
Winner - Tiny Epic Galaxies
Runner Up - Hostage Negotiator
Runner Up - Baseball Highlights: 2045

Strategy Game
Winner - Pandemic Legacy: Season 1
Runner Up - 7 Wonders Duel
Runner Up - The Voyages of Marco Polo

Thematic Game
Winner - Pandemic Legacy: Season 1
Runner Up - T.I.M.E Stories
Runner Up - Blood Rage

Wargame
Winner - Churchill
Runner Up - Triumph & Tragedy
Runner Up - The U.S. Civil War

Best Podcast
Winner - The Secret Cabal Gaming Podcast
Runner Up - Shut Up & Sit Down: The Podcast!
Runner Up - Rahdo Talks Through

Best Board Game App
Winner - Splendor
Runner Up - Galaxy Trucker
Runner Up - Star Realms: Gambit
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Reply #2291 on: March 08, 2017, 11:24:54 AM

Granted I have probably the least experience with modern board games as anyone commenting in this thread, but I like the Arkham Horror LCG.  I like the theming, the art, the pace of gameplay, and how the character classes/decks work. I was deciding between it and the LOTR LCG, but complaints about the difficulty being absurd at times, and the fact that I don't really care about the LOTR universe made my decision easier. It can be a bit too random at times with bad chaos token pulls causing things to spiral out of control even on the easiest setting (there are card to manage this). Solo play can be a bit more difficult due to each class having some glaring weaknesses, but again there are ways you can offset this in deck construction. The campaign is well done and the branching outcomes are a really compelling aspect to it.

I don't get a lot of time to play it, because the theming/art is inappropriate for my son and my wife doesn't give a shit about Cthulhu or boardgaming outside of playing things as a family. Hogwarts battle will probably end up working for them once my son actually gets interested in Harry Potter. Castle Panic works for now, but the boy cheats way too hard at it for fear of losing.  awesome, for real

Overall, I'm satisfied the purchase, and will be starting up the Dunwich horror campaign with a new character. As an aside, the amount of cards for this are going to end up being absurd, and I'll probably have to stick the campaign/scenario cards in another storage container at some point.
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Reply #2292 on: March 08, 2017, 12:43:48 PM

Yeah, the LotR card game recently overflowed the 3200 card storage box I was keeping mine in. I'm sure Arkham will get there eventually.

For the moment I'm just keeping all of the player cards in binder sheets, all of the "shared" scenario decks in one baggie, and all of the unique scenario decks in another baggie. I can make it fit in one copy of the base box for now, along with the chaos bag, rules, tokens and baggies containing the decks for all of the investigators currently running through the campaign, but I doubt that'll last to the next campaign. Fortunately, I bought 4 copies of the base set, because I am a crazy person.
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Reply #2293 on: March 08, 2017, 06:07:43 PM

1. Arkham Horror LCG is good.  Very story driven, progression play.
2. BGG is drek
3. There's a new CMON KS on: http://kck.st/2lZADxW
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Reply #2294 on: March 08, 2017, 09:35:16 PM

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Reply #2295 on: March 09, 2017, 04:13:46 AM

That CMON kickstarter confuses me. It doesn't have 300 pledge options and early bird schemes out the wazoo, also it seems to be a real board game and not just a box of miniatures and dice.

I'm conflicted. I might end up pledging because of the beautiful things despite the fact I know it will not get enough table time. In summary, I have no self control.

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Reply #2296 on: March 09, 2017, 04:53:05 AM

Hmm, yeah, Rising Sun does look tempting.  We'll see if I can hold off on it or not.  Also, what's with the BGG hate?  The rankings in general are fairly accurate and helpful I think.

Anybody have any thoughts on the Heavy Hitters kickstarter?

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Reply #2297 on: March 09, 2017, 05:21:14 AM

Look, I know it's really, really old, but is the Digital Edition of Talisman a true representation of the board game ?  Because it fucking sucks on first play.


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Reply #2298 on: March 09, 2017, 05:52:17 AM

Never played the original, but as far as I can tell, it's a direct translation (don't know about the thousand expansions they've released for the digital version since). 

And yes, it's a long drawn out kick in the balls.

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Reply #2299 on: March 09, 2017, 06:00:48 AM

Hmm, yeah, Rising Sun does look tempting.  We'll see if I can hold off on it or not.  Also, what's with the BGG hate?  The rankings in general are fairly accurate and helpful I think.

Anybody have any thoughts on the Heavy Hitters kickstarter?

BGG is a good database, and I happen to organise a gaming group I go to through there. But that's about it.

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Reply #2300 on: March 09, 2017, 08:51:22 AM

BGG is also fantastic for rules questions.



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Reply #2301 on: March 09, 2017, 09:37:09 AM

Look, I know it's really, really old, but is the Digital Edition of Talisman a true representation of the board game ?  Because it fucking sucks on first play.

Yeah, Talisman can be a slog (especially without alternate endings provided by some xpacs  and/or house rules that shorten the playing time) but I still love it, no matter the slightly dated mechanics  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

I played the digital edition and it's basically a 1:1 conversion, yes.  You can say the following about any digital tabletop game, but given the peculiar laid-back, popcorn munchkin nature of the game, the "let's see what happens with the next card" while moving around the board, Talisman is definitely best enjoyed with a physical edition.

In the digital version, everything happens too quickly (which you can consider a good thing compared to the physical edition) and you lose all of the above I just described and even more than in any other digital conversion, game becomes  too intangible, you end only noticing the dated mechanics but miss the fun (which is subjective, yes) in between.


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Reply #2302 on: March 09, 2017, 10:09:16 AM

I got a play of Scythe at Total Con. 

I wouldn't even call it a good game.  It's a pretty game, but there's zero depth.  It honestly feels like it was designed by elementary school kids after they played a game of Eclipse and watched some anime.
I love things like Madeira and Terra Mystica though, so YMMV.

I'm way more excited about Feast for Odin.

Why don't you try our other games?
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Reply #2303 on: March 09, 2017, 10:42:28 AM

That CMON kickstarter confuses me. It doesn't have 300 pledge options and early bird schemes out the wazoo, also it seems to be a real board game and not just a box of miniatures and dice.

I'm conflicted. I might end up pledging because of the beautiful things despite the fact I know it will not get enough table time. In summary, I have no self control.

It's Eric Lang. He's as good as you get as far as ameritrashy type designers go, and this is most similar to his earlier game Blood Rage which is actually a genuinely good fairly-euroey game that just happened to have really amazing miniatures.

Also, I would be flabbergasted if they didn't end up having an extra few hundred dollars worth of optional add-ons before the campaign ends.
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Reply #2304 on: March 09, 2017, 11:11:39 AM

This new KS has been described as a mix of Blood Rage, Diplomacy and Shogun.  I bought Blood Rage for the minis and ended up with a game I really enjoy.  I think I'm getting this one because I have confidence in the game and I'll end up with some extra minis I will enjoy.  As for there being only one pledge level - they have a history of adding Add-ons once they get your foot in the door.

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Reply #2305 on: March 09, 2017, 11:29:55 AM

Yeah, Bloodrage is legitimately a great game.  Guess I'll just have to throw $100 at them instead of an extra hundred at the F13 donation drive.   awesome, for real

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Reply #2306 on: March 09, 2017, 11:30:50 AM

I got a play of Scythe at Total Con. 

I wouldn't even call it a good game.  It's a pretty game, but there's zero depth.  It honestly feels like it was designed by elementary school kids after they played a game of Eclipse and watched some anime.
I love things like Madeira and Terra Mystica though, so YMMV.

I'm way more excited about Feast for Odin.

I disagree there is no depth.

And at my local meetup it is the Terra Mystica crowd who are still playing it.

My issue with it is that the theme doesn't really connect with the underlying efficiency puzzle. Which is almost worse than having no theme. In TM, the puzzle is there on the surface unobscured by theme, in something like Food Chain Magnate - the theme is so well integrated with the puzzle that they support each other. In Scythe the theme hides the puzzle and makes it less interesting.

Also it plainly isn't as good as a top tier euro.


Agree about Feast For Odin - its not nearly as much a multiplayer solitaire as it looks, best Rosenburg game in years.

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Reply #2307 on: March 09, 2017, 11:43:52 AM

This new KS has been described as a mix of Blood Rage, Diplomacy and Shogun.  

It has certainly been described that way, but I don't really see it from the KS page. Reads more like a mash up of Puerto Rico, El Grande, and Cosmic Encounter. Which sounds way better.

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Reply #2308 on: March 09, 2017, 11:48:49 AM

Hmm, yeah, Rising Sun does look tempting.  We'll see if I can hold off on it or not.  Also, what's with the BGG hate?  The rankings in general are fairly accurate and helpful I think.

Anybody have any thoughts on the Heavy Hitters kickstarter?

My thought is that it is made by Cryptozoic, so I expect mediocrity.

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Reply #2309 on: March 09, 2017, 12:19:34 PM

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It has certainly been described that way, but I don't really see it from the KS page. Reads more like a mash up of Puerto Rico, El Grande, and Cosmic Encounter. Which sounds way better.
What are the Puerto Rico elements you're seeing?

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