Vegas baby! Vegas

[Lakov_Sanite]

I thought companions were too easy myself....until I started seeing deathclaws. Yeah my melee guy was godly with his ranged companions until these face rapers came along to rape faces.

[rk47]

I put down my melee-only game when I realized that I'd be running around with a big chunk of rebar for about 15 hours before finding something better.

Yea the melee weapons are really bleh.  I'm not touching a melee game till I figure out which mods to use for it.

I love the chainsaw.

[Hawkbit]

After putting 10 hours into NV, it's just a different experience than FO3 completely.  I spent nearly a year trying to beat FO3, getting bored at different parts.  I also felt like I had to min/max in FO3.

With NV, I'm just playing it, picking things as I go, leveling as I want.  I'm playing into the wee hours of the morning, wanting to see 'just one more thing' when I notice it's 3am irl. 

My complaints are aimed at it being buggy, but my biggest complaint recently is that mobs and objects are getting caught beneath the terrain too often. 

[Jeff Kelly]

I had the same experience initially because I expected FO3 to be like FO 1 or 2, which it isn't.

After replaying both 3 and NV though I can see the positive sides of both.

[Arrrgh]

If you're not too spoiler adverse you can watch the different ending cut scenes on youtube to see how your choices will play out. There was one small faction that was barely bread crumbed that I missed entirely on my first play through. I was surprised when their ending cut scene popped up.

[Rendakor]

Which faction?

[koro]

I had to watch the ending cutscenes on Youtube because every time they'd start for me, the game would crash. 

[Arrrgh]

Which faction?

[Shrike]

Yeah, I remember those guys. They were damned disagreeable and difficult to deal with. Well, difficult to talk to. Easy enough to...well...deal with by other means.

Same with the Great Khans. Always hated those bastards in FO and FO2. Hard to negotiate with in NV. So they got introduced to diplomacy by other means.

[Kitsune]

I just played through Honest Hearts, and it was a lesser experience than Dead Money.  Shorter to play through and less interesting.

[Rendakor]

Ahh, I don't think I ever ran into them.

[Malakili]

[Rasix]

Game's been out almost a year. I don't think we need to spoiler shit anymore.

[Malakili]

Game's been out almost a year. I don't think we need to spoiler shit anymore.

Eh, yeah, you're probably right, I figured there were a lot of people that just bought the game over the summer sale so there were probably a bunch of folks interested in the thread that might not have played things, but thats on us not to get spoiled I suppose.

[Khaldun]

Just did Dead Money and Honest Hearts.

Dead Money was fucking fantastic.


Honest Hearts I liked a lot of the look of, but I kind of screwed it up by taking my psychokiller melee character to, and killing Joshua Graham in irritation right after he cleaned his tenth pistol. That pretty much meant, "No quests for u".

[Shrike]

Getting started in Honest Hearts was fraught with peril. It took three tries before I figured out what was going on. The Courier was way too fast and deadly. Chalk usually bought a farm before he could twitch. Before I figured out he was your principle contact. I did really like the looks of Zion in the game. Very cool. Nice having clean water without having to scrounge for it, too.

Dead Money was rather frustrating in some ways, but man it had atmosphere and sense of dread rarely seen in games these days. I would have liked gloating over Elijah's downfall more myself (hate timed anything in games), but that downfall was so sweet. It still gives me a warm and fuzzy recalling him slinking into the vault talking his shit while a stealthed Courier lined his head up over the sights of the BAR...

[Lakov_Sanite]

So I picked up old world blues and....



SCIENCE! 


Not that far into it but it has the voice actors for Dr Venture and I think Nibbler/Futurama announcer. 

[Ingmar]

Just did Dead Money and Honest Hearts.

Dead Money was fucking fantastic.


Honest Hearts I liked a lot of the look of, but I kind of screwed it up by taking my psychokiller melee character to, and killing Joshua Graham in irritation right after he cleaned his tenth pistol. That pretty much meant, "No quests for u".

I played about an hour of Dead Money and decided I hated it and moved on. There are a couple mechanics I really hate about it.


Liking Honest Hearts much more so far.

[Hawkbit]

About 20hrs into the base game and I noticed some things that I find interesting. 

First, I have run across three companions in the first 10 hours (ED-E, Boone, Victoria).  Compared to FO3 where I found Dogmeat 20hrs in and Fawkes maybe 45hrs in, NV is a significant improvement. 

Second, I tried to use my heavy combat build from FO3, but I've found that it's just not wise to play NV without a decent Speech or Barter.  There's so much that I've been limited to doing because those skills are low.  Whoever decided to balance the game out like this is a pure genius.  I'm actually half considering rerolling my character to play with more speech options.  This game wasn't designed to be min/maxed.  It's awesome, bugs aside.   

I hope Bethesda looks at these changes when they put together FO4.

[Khaldun]

I played two characters all the way through and the thing I really liked about it was that I wasn't at all tempted to min/max or even really stick to a build that was about some particular vision of effectiveness. The first guy was a basically good-hearted NCR-favoring sniper who liked hanging around with Boone and didn't want anything to do with House and that all made sense to me. I had a great feel for what the character ought to be doing in a given situation. Then I played a psycho lady who helped the Powder Gangers kill the townspeople and liked to use melee weapons. But she met Veronica and kind of softened a bit and became a more principled anarchist: down with NCR, down with Caesar, down with House, down with anyone who was going to tell people what to do. Again, it all made sense: I didn't have to think much about what she'd do in a given situation or what skills I'd level, or even what perks to take (there's actually a perfect perk that suits her character). It was interesting that despite all the really bad things she did--like 600 deaths towards being Lord Death of Murder Mountain--the game still had her classed as karma-positive. Just killing Fiends alone, which you pretty much have to do, nets a lot of positive karma.

[Tebonas]

Proton Axe!

I SO will make a Melee-only character now in remembrance of Wasteland.

[Ruvaldt]

Proton Axe?!  That has to be a nod to Wasteland.  I'm tempted to make my second character a melee fighter just so I can wield it.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Proton Axe?!  That has to be a nod to Wasteland.  I'm tempted to make my second character a melee fighter just so I can wield it.

I also found a nod to portal in old world blues in the form of a broken eyebot that looks like a personality core.

[Lantyssa]

Proton Axe!

[Malakili]

Played through Honest Hearts, liked it quite a lot actually.  It was interesting on Hardcore mode.  Plentiful clean water, but had to hunt or scavenge for food, made even more interesting because the 75 lb limit to go on the caravan trip meant that I was really poorly equipped to deal with the conditions.  Actually made it a lot more fun though.

[Tebonas]

Played some of Old World Blues yesterday, loving it! Nice humor, and yes, the Portal is strong in this one! FOR SCIENCE!

[Ruvaldt]

Just finished my first play through of the game, and created an independent New Vegas, destroying both the NCR and the Legion.  I already know that I'll be replaying the game a few months from now, and it was easily the best rpg I've played in years, but the ending was thoroughly unsatisfying.  I knew what was bound to happen in the end with the path that I chose, but it still felt terribly abrupt and awkward.

In the end though, a poor ending doesn't spoil the game.  I'm looking forward to playing on the side of the NCR, or something, next time and going through the DLCs on a Hardcore game.

[Rendakor]

I was just upset that Yes Man didn't remain the loyal leader of my robot army in the independent ending.

[Tebonas]

Don't get me started on the ending again! The Independent ending is dumb in so many ways! Just use the robots to get a good independence deal with the NCR (they did it once before) in exchange for assistance against the Legion.

I found the Yes Man thing foreshadowed quite well, actually. But maybe I just distrust people who say Yes to everything   

[Ruvaldt]

Oh, I saw the Yes Man thing from a mile away, but I kept going because I thought it'd still be satisfying.  Instead I just got the equivalent of a  "kthxbye lolz."  At least have him kill me or something; honestly, that's more believable, and I would've been alright with it if it was done in some dramatic way. 

I thought that maybe Yes Man wasn't letting me walk all over him at all, but was instead playing some much deeper game before I even arrived and simply let me think that he was really my servant along with his previous masters.  I was just necessary because he wasn't able to do all of the footwork by himself.  Instead he is "going off somewhere to find the chip that makes him more assertive!"  It felt cheap, especially since it came from a great character who could have been even better, and ultimately more strangely sinister.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I'm not sure the yes man thing was really him turning on you. Sure it seemed like he would from the start and the independant ending makes it seem like he will but they keep it pretty vague as to what actually happens.

[Malakili]

I really liked Vault 22 :)

[Surlyboi]

Proton Axe!

Christ we're all old fucking gamers.

[Hawkbit]

I really liked Vault 22 :)

Yep, I just finished that part and I really thought it was paced well.  It was fun!

[Jeff Kelly]