Vegas baby! Vegas

[Stormwaltz]

Oh dear. Sounds like the 360 version is infested as well.

http://fidgit.com/archives/2010/10/fallout_new_vegas_six_hours_of.php

[Reg]

From the reviews I'm seeing it seems that the 360 version is far worse than the PC version.

[Paelos]

From the reviews I'm seeing it seems that the 360 version is far worse than the PC version.

There's some heavy irony. How do you fuck up a release on a standard set of hardware?

[Reg]

I'm guessing the 360 is more sensitive to memory leaks.

[Hawkbit]

Diff developer, sure.  But go take a look at F3 on the PS3.  If you install certain DLC or play the GOTY version, once the save file reaches a certain upper memory limit the game freezes there, too.  And they never acknowledged the issue or offered a fix for it.  They simply ignore the threads that popup in their tech forums.  

It's the same software, even if a different developer.  

[Paelos]

They simply ignore the threads that popup in their tech forums. 

We live in an age on the internet where the signal to noise ratio makes it almost impossible to discern anything subjectively useful from forums. However, you would think that people wouldn't apply this same logic to technical forums where people say, "Yeah this won't work because it's freezing my system" over and over. I know I go out of my way to look for technical issues on all the Steam forums before I buy a game, and pay zero attention to the This Game is Boring posts that may litter the place.

[Rasix]

Heh, the Giant Bomb review is written by Gerstmann.  Sufficiently scared me off for now.  It looks like he played the 360 version, so I'd be more interested in hearing how the PC version performs. 

Skeptical my machine could handle it, but no way I'm settling for a console version now.

[Rasix]

From the reviews I'm seeing it seems that the 360 version is far worse than the PC version.

There's some heavy irony. How do you fuck up a release on a standard set of hardware?

It's Obsidian.  KOTOR2 was probably the buggiest XBox game I ever played.  It really has to be a combination of their coders never working with their own creations, their project management vastly over promising, and their QA process just not working (be it a compressed schedule, lack of proficiency, poor planning, or lack of communication with development, I have no idea).

At least with a PC version you'll get some die hards fixing problems well after Obsidian has washed their hands of it.

[jakonovski]

I'd be more interested in hearing how the PC version performs. 

Not so good:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/10/19/fallout-new-vegas-old-obsidian/

Also, I was reading Neogaf at work and it seems the water effect is bugged on Nvidia cards and has to be set on low for that game to run playably.

[Shrike]

360 version on it's way (hey, I got a deal on it). Guess we'll see if it's totally in the tradition of Fallouts 1 and 2 (i.e. buggy as hell and prone to crash at inconveniant moments). Looking forward to the hardcore stuff.

I'd have gone Steam, but scored the 360 version for less and I need a couch game (other than Xenosaga, which is less game and more interactive movie). We shall see--if the thing ever shows up.

[MisterNoisy]

Also, I was reading Neogaf at work and it seems the water effect is bugged on Nvidia cards and has to be set on low for that game to run playably.

I read that as well, but I haven't had any issues running on ultra/4xAA on my GTX460, regardless of whether there's water in the scene.

[fatboy]

I picked up the 360 version, but have to wait until after work to play .... dammit!

Maybe I'm the minority here, but I had no problems with Fallout 3 on the 360, and I played through all 4 DLCs.  No problems at all.

[jakonovski]

Is it possible to alt-tab in Vegas? FO3 crashing every time I do that drives me nuts.

[brellium]

There's some wierd memory alocation issue with the engine, it is crash prone on the PC (atleast my pc).  The only reason why I know it's a memory alocation issue is it fails to load or crashes frequently if I'm runing my VM at the same time.

[Cyrrex]

Is the game even fun?  Only thing you guys are talking about are the bugs, and I take that with a grain of salt.  I had no bugs with either FO3 or KOTOR2.

[Rasix]

I had no bugs with either FO3 or KOTOR2.

Doesn't mean you'll be magically immune this time.  Fallout 3 wasn't developed by Obsidian, however. 

[Cyrrex]

I had no bugs with either FO3 or KOTOR2.

Doesn't mean you'll be magically immune this time.  Fallout 3 wasn't developed by Obsidian, however. 

I know.  But my personal experience, for whatever reason, is that I don't experience bugs like many others do...or maybe it's just that they don't bother me as much when they do happen.  Also, I'm sure people are pre-disposed to exaggerate the bugs from a game by Obsidian just as an automatic reflex.

[Rishathra]

Michael Hogan voicing an old, friendly doctor is making me  .  Not because he's doing a bad job, I'm just having trouble adjusting to hear him do anything other than an angry, drunken snarl.

[jakonovski]

There's a Quick Look of Vegas on Giant Bomb for those who want to see how it actually plays. Watching it now myself.
http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-fallout-new-vegas/17-3395/

Edit: it's slightly spoilerish as it's taken from the middle of the game.

[ffc]

Only read one comment (GAF) from a PS3 player saying there was 1 crash in 6 hours.  If I don't hear anything worse than that ratio by tomorrow then I'll open it instead of returning it.

[LK]

Introduction suffers from Bioshock 2-itis: opening cinematic instead of compelling introduction to the world, character creation / setup nowhere near as interesting or involving as Fallout 3.

I'll Radicalthon my progress. I'm making it as tough as fucking possible at the start just to see how I do. I think there's a 100 save file limit for Hardcore which adds a little something special there.

[Reg]

There's a problem with quicksaves on the PC - something related to the Steam cloud apparently. So save manually.

[rattran]

PC quicksaves don't seem to work, and I'm having the occasional crash. Mostly it just seems really slow. And that energy weapons suck. And they added a whole lot of food/drug crafting.

[eldaec]

Does it have any Bao-Dur? Because fuck that guy.

[Ingmar]

After about 90 minutes of PC version, graphics on high, I haven't seen any serious problems. A little bit of a hitch now and then when it is loading something.

Also, spoiler: geckos.  

EDIT:

I can alt-tab without crashing, and nothing seems to be wrong with my quicksaves.

[brellium]

After about 90 minutes of PC version, graphics on high, I haven't seen any serious problems. A little bit of a hitch now and then when it is loading something.

Also, spoiler: geckos.  

EDIT:

I can alt-tab without crashing, and nothing seems to be wrong with my quicksaves.

I've had two crashes, however those have been due to issues with Steam's Cloud moving the saves to a back up file and then moving the back ups to your saves.

Steam has since disabled the cloud while they work out the issue.

[ghost]

Runs like a champ for me.  And the initial sequence is kick ass-  much more what I expected from the Fallout setting.

[Kitsune]

So far no crashes or flaws beyond some of the physics engine silliness that was already in 3.  Hardcore mode has been fairly lenient thus far by not being a complete dick about food and water.  I went through about two days before the lack of eating piled up enough to start giving me penalties.

One thing that really impressed me thus far is that if you're wearing a faction's outfits, random people will think you're with them.  Including their own people.     Nothing says love like strolling up to a bandit, chit-chatting about how awesome it is being a bandit, then shooting him in the temple point-blank.  Of course, once you start shooting they wise up pretty quick, and apparently there are special guard NPCs who won't be fooled by your disguises to prevent someone from being able to just wander right up to a gang's leader in mismatched, blood-soaked gang clothes to assassinate him.  But that's some of the attention to gaming detail that I loved in Obsidian's other games.  Which always made me all the sadder when the horrible, unfinished state of those games sent them crashing in flames.  So fingers crossed this time!

[Rasix]

*twitches*

[Ceryse]

Havn't gotten too far into the game, as I had to restart my character twice (due to my own stupidity). I've only seen a single issue (one guy was stuck, mid-air, with his head clipping into a ceiling, but I could talk to him still, so not a huge issue) and have been thus far surprised with how well its running on my mid-range (slightly generous) computer, with most things at high except for shadows and water reflections (which are both turned to low) as neither matters to me.

I'd forgotten how quickly weight adds up in Fallout. Always near encumbered status, and I'm not even on hardcore mode. Granted, part of my problem is I'm a pack rat with nowhere to put shit. On the whole, liking the game thus far, more than I did Fallout 3, at a similar level of hours played. Except for the radio. God damn is that a small selection of songs.

[Azazel]

grhm.

I think this will be my GOTY for late 2011 or early 2012. 

[Ingmar]

The icon for the New Vegas Samurai achievement is  .

[Shrike]

Fallout as a franchise was all about bugs. Lets be clear on that. FO1 and FO2 were buggy, crash-prone messes--and a helluva lot of fun despite it.

I never ran into all that many bugs in FO3 on either the PC or 360 (and I have both). They had different quirks, at least on my machine. Despite the horseshit whining about consoles and the supposed superiorty of the PC, I never noticed that much difference between the two graphically. Sure, the PC is better, but the difference isn't huge (mostly draw-in distance and some detail). Now if you like mods, then the PC has it all over the consoles. The 360 was more inclined to werido display bugs and some slowdown. The PC tended to lock up and crash to desktop on occasion. Half a dozen of one...

All I can say is I'm waiting with bated breath for my 360 copy to show up. Now when the GotY editions hits Steam for $20 or whatever, I'll jump on the PC.

[Rendakor]

Picked up mine today for the PC, just put a few hours into it. Only gameplay issue I had was being unable to change the resolution while in game; took me 10m to figure out I had to use the launcher. 

The story seems to have a good balance between advancing the real plot and providing side quests with options; just like FO3 I find myself playing a nice, if violent, guy who also happens to be a kleptomaniac. There seems to be a lot of shit out in the wilderness that's marked red (aka karma hit for looting) even if nothing friendly is nearby.

[LK]

This is the buggiest XBox 360 game I have ever played. I was getting graphical issues, jumping NPCs, broken AI, and all sorts of craziness. It feels held together by gum and shoe string.

The crafting system is overwhelmingly bad. Good that it's there, but there's so many recipes to remember and junk you need to collect. Hardcore Mode adds several timers similar to the Rad meter that just needs to be managed, and can be done so easily. It doesn't really feel like survival on the frontier as it is managing several meters a la the Sims.

I almost don't want to do the Radicalthon. Everything just feels so *weird*, like someone made Fallout 3 except with some really bad programming and design principles.

The dudes I'm up against so far can be fucked the hell up with melee weapons; perma-stunned with machete = GG.