jcthebuilder
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If every time you encounter a pirate you lose your ship, that won't be acceptable to many people. If this is really how people like it, then this should also extend to houses. Is there a house you don't like? Throw explosion potions at it until it explodes into flames and burns down. This is the expectation of people who play on IPY.
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Arthur_Parker
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The main difference is the EA system does not allow your ship to be destroyed. I don't think the IPY system will be able to survive without changes. Griefers can sail around blowing up every ship they see. What if you just want to go do some fishing? A pirate ship rolls up and you recall. Your ship and everything on it is now gone. It costs next to nothing because the cannons shot explosion potions.
This was already a serious problem on EA Trammel because a bug fix was not applied correctly. Players were going around and scuttling player ships all over just for the fun of it.
So the EA system = Trammel everywhere & IPY = a pre trammel griefer paradise?
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Mrbloodworth
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It just irks me that Az is trying to play a victim. "Poor me, I have been working my butt off making this new shard and EA swoops in and steals my thunder". Reality check: - The developers have been talking about a pirate expansion since Renaissance. - Mondain's Legacy was a pirate expansion until EA management decided to do something else (the ML build was called High Seas). - Smooth boat movement benefits everyone, OSI and free shard alike. If High Seas didn't happen boat PVP would continue to suck. There is nothing really exciting in what is planned for IPY. It is just High Seas with a bit of factions mixed in. shhhh, No one tell Az that EA is also working on a faction revamp.  WTF is this bullshit? Where the hell does he play victim? Those that can, DO, those that can't, critique and run fan sites.
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Slayerik
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The main difference is the EA system does not allow your ship to be destroyed. I don't think the IPY system will be able to survive without changes. Griefers can sail around blowing up every ship they see. What if you just want to go do some fishing? A pirate ship rolls up and you recall. Your ship and everything on it is now gone. It costs next to nothing because the cannons shot explosion potions.
This was already a serious problem on EA Trammel because a bug fix was not applied correctly. Players were going around and scuttling player ships all over just for the fun of it.
Guess what...you can't recall to/from Ice Isle either. So if you are going on a boating trip over there you better be ready for a possible fight on the way. Or maybe take a path less travelled. I personally think it is great, but will rarely take part. When I hit the high seas, it will be with friends and we'll be ready for a fight. A large, established, and enterprising pirate guild could also work out 'protection' deals like the mob. For X gold a week, we won't attack anyone in your guild. You are free to farm gold on Ice Isle and fish until your hearts are content! This is the kinda stuff I hope for in my MMOs, not raiding and purple hunting. An actual world full of risk/reward. A world where you can possibly be murdered, but those that are smart are far less likely. Survival of the mother fuckin' fittest. UO at it's best.
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Falconeer
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I can't believe how jcthebuilder went from educated, polite recently de-stalked EA defender to aggressive DLRiley-ish assholey offender to Azaroth's humble and cool project in so little time. What is wrong with you, dude? Since you haven't been banned for your dementia about crafting, you are curious to see how much trolling is allowed around here? Anything better to do than make a fool of yourself about UO on the f13 boards? Don't you have any saltpeter to grind or cannons to click these days?
And yeah, what Mrbloodworth said.
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Reg
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I realize it's Halloween and all but some threads are better left in the Graveyard.
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eldaec
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This was already a serious problem on EA Trammel because a bug fix was not applied correctly. Players were going around and scuttling player ships all over just for the fun of it.
Damn players being able to go around doing things just for the fun of it. I hate when that happens. Maybe if it wasn't so retardedly boring and costly to get a ship in the first place this wouldn't be such a problem?
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Sky
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Maybe if it wasn't so retardedly boring and costly to get a ship in the first place this wouldn't be such a problem?
BUT THEN SHIPS WOULDN'T MEAN ANYTHING! Srsly, where is the accomplishment?
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jcthebuilder
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Those that can, DO, those that can't, critique and run fan sites. I didn't know ripping off someone elses work is considered doing something.
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Slyfeind
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It just irks me that Az is trying to play a victim. "Poor me, I have been working my butt off making this new shard and EA swoops in and steals my thunder".
And this sounds to me like the reverse; you come in here expecting to be the Guru Of All Things Ultima, whereupon we shower you with praise and thanks for enlightening our Ultima-less lives, then get all butt-hurt when you find out we got our own thing going on.
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"Role playing in an MMO is more like an open orchestra with no conductor, anyone of any skill level can walk in at any time, and everyone brings their own instrument and plays whatever song they want. Then toss PvP into the mix and things REALLY get ugly!" -Count Nerfedalot
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jcthebuilder
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I came here to clarify some things about the High Seas expansion. I thought it might be helpful to answer some questions about the current state of UO. I see the old dog IPY coming around again so I offer some commentary on that.
To me, it appears you guys just don't like new people on your forum. It is no wonder most posters on this forum have hundreds or thousands of posts.
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Nebu
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To me, it appears you guys just don't like new people on your forum. It is no wonder most posters on this forum have hundreds or thousands of posts.
Joining a community, particularly an established one, takes time. If you've got something to add, say it. Some will appreciate that. Some won't. It's the internet.
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Arthur_Parker
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It is no wonder most posters on this forum have hundreds or thousands of posts.
There have been various attempts to tackle that issue but the age of the forum and the fact the forum is a forum have greatly hindered the efforts.
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WindupAtheist
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I came here to clarify some things about the High Seas expansion. I thought it might be helpful to answer some questions about the current state of UO. I see the old dog IPY coming around again so I offer some commentary on that.
To me, it appears you guys just don't like new people on your forum. It is no wonder most posters on this forum have hundreds or thousands of posts. Not being a fucking idiot might have helped your cause. Then again, what do I care? Yes, we hate everyone and you should probably just fuck off.
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It is no wonder most posters on this forum have hundreds or thousands of posts.
You should feel the assrape to get over 1,000. 
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sinij
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Not being a fucking idiot might have helped your cause. Then again, what do I care? Yes, we hate everyone and you should probably just fuck off.
Doctor, heal thyself! This was already a serious problem on EA Trammel because a bug fix was not applied correctly. Players were going around and scuttling player ships all over just for the fun of it. It is so freaking ironic that Trammies would PK each other given opportunity. Those filthy, antisocial Trammies must be murderers and rapist IRL.
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« Last Edit: October 27, 2010, 03:25:43 PM by sinij »
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Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end.
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Fordel
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I'm sad that I missed out on all these ancient UO shenanigans. :(
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Der Helm
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"I've been done enough around here..."- Signe
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eldaec
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"People will not assume that what they read on the internet is trustworthy or that it carries any particular assurance or accuracy" - Lord Leveson "Hyperbole is a cancer" - Lakov Sanite
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jcthebuilder
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I am so excited for the Grandfather clocks we are getting. Unfortunately they come prebuilt. I would have preferred a 12 part crafting quest to make them.
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UnSub
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To me, it appears you guys just don't like new people on your forum. It is no wonder most posters on this forum have hundreds or thousands of posts.
I note the irony of a UO stalwart coming here and lecturing us about inclusion while also defending the stupidly complex processes that drive players away from the title.
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Lantyssa
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UO players are the most entertaining.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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jcthebuilder
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lol, to be young on the internet again. Stratics has some news that EA is launching a Classic Shard..................today. Ultima Online announced today the release of a classic shard based on the “old school” PvP server!
The new "Shard of the Dead" is an attempt to gauge the interest levels of re-opening a full-blown "old school" PvP server. UO producer Cal Crowner hopes this will excite the players who preferred the classic free-form gameplay of Ultima Online with harsh consequences when your character is defeated by another.
Shard of the Dead will remain open for one to two months, depending on the player response.
Here is a look at the features for this new server.
Features of "Shard of the Dead"
1. No items will be blessed, except for spellbooks of all types, and runebooks 2. Item insurance system disabled 3. Always nighttime 4. No handouts for new players, start the game as you are and work hard to achieve things in game 5. Accelerate skill gain 10X so players can get to max level quickly 6. Only Felucca facet will exist 7. Allow Glass Sword of Shattering (one shot kill sword that shatters when used. Players can only have one at a time and never trade/sell them) 8. New King of the Tower game to obtain Glass Sword 9. Only one guard zone in Britian 10. All characters receive advanced character token at login 11. Players must wait 7 days to delete their characters
To get started, or re-enable an old account visit the account management page! http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/226414-%5Bnetwork%5D-ultima-online-classic-pvp-server-back-online.html
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UnSub
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 Shard of the Dead  And we all thought EA didn't have a sense of humour.
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Arthur_Parker
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How the hell is playing in the dark with 10 times skill gain and a lightsaber classic?
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Sheepherder
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They said old school, they didn't say anything about Ultima.
From the Dawn of Time we came, moving silently down through the centuries, living many secret lives, struggling to reach the Time of the Gathering, where the few who remain will battle to the last. No one has ever known we were among you, until now.
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eldaec
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Why would you disable shit like insurance and enable lightsabres on a fucking pvp server.
These guys are idiots.
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Mrbloodworth
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Clearly your not hardcore.
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Falconeer
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As retarded as you all think this is, I don't get the hate for this rare bone thrown to the niche of a niche that might actually like it. Some people actually DO like to punch pins in their nutsacks (it's true), and some people like to be whipped (even more true). In fact, whips, paddles, canes and floggers are actually a very remunerative niche business. Call this the BDSM of MMORPGs, but there's a market for this and people who want to play it. Don't be narrowminded. It's safe, it's consensual, and doesn't spoil your fun.
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Lantyssa
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Most of what you say is true, except the market bit has yet to be proven.
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Tarami
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UO is for sure a much more convenient abbreviation than MBDSMORPG.
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- I'm giving you this one for free. - Nothing's free in the waterworld.
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palmer_eldritch
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Why would you disable shit like insurance and enable lightsabres on a fucking pvp server.
These guys are idiots.
Why would you have insurance on a PvP server? You carry what you can afford to lose. Anyway, I'm glad EA are trying stuff but old-school UO wasn't about constant war, which this seems to be going for. You can let people have guards in Yew and Minoc, and the odd bit of sunshine, and still have a PvP server.
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Slayerik
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Sigh.
All they had to do was open a real classic server and I probably would have played. Glass swords.... Ugh.
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Xuri
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몇살이세욬ㅋ 몇살이 몇살 몇살이세욬ㅋ!!!!!1!
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Old school shard sounds interesting. But... One shot glass-swords? 
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