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Viin
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Reply #210 on: August 25, 2011, 07:26:45 PM

I had the opposite problem recently when interviewing people for a position - half of the candidates who confirmed for interviews never showed.  Head scratch

That is odd .. too many interviews to go to?

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Reply #211 on: August 26, 2011, 06:21:07 AM

I might decide I don't want to interview after I have already committed, but I think it is nice to tell someone.  I'm probably different.  I also have a hard time lying in interviews, which seems to hold me back a lot.

I'm getting a lot of hits on things I do not want to do.  This has cut down a bit after I rewrote the resume to be for IT Architect instead of AIX/TSM/SAP/ORA/etc senior admin.  After poking around and having a phone interview, I find that even senior admin work is now bullshit, shlepping bits around on a schedule and other drone work.

Meanwhile, I am gradually letting go of the lower echelons of SA work in my current spot.  Instead, I am doing engineering/architect work as much as I can, including sending instructions to contractors instead of doing it my damn self, being vague with my advice and suggestions, telling people I don't have time to put out their particular fire (I don't, actually, unless they are friends or strategically important), writing process docs, telling people how things really should be done, and stroking my goatee while thinking of radical infrastructure redesigns to streamline and automate the enterprise.

So far, so good.

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Reply #212 on: August 26, 2011, 06:28:41 AM

I might decide I don't want to interview after I have already committed, but I think it is nice to tell someone.  I'm probably different.  I also have a hard time lying in interviews, which seems to hold me back a lot.
I'd rather be honest.  My difficulty is actually being honest with myself though, as I tend to drastically understate my capabilities.  At least if they contact my references they'll gush for me.

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Reply #213 on: August 26, 2011, 06:35:18 AM

I seem to switch between "No, I've never done that... or that... or that..." and "No, but how hard could it be?"  I don't know how well people react to the second one, whether it is true or not.  I think I am awesome but I don't know how to convince other people.

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Reply #214 on: August 26, 2011, 06:51:31 AM

On that I try to emphasize I've worked with a bunch of different systems over the years and I'm good at picking things up.  That's really what problem-solving in IT is about.  You may not *know* something, but you can figure it out quickly.

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Reply #215 on: August 26, 2011, 07:02:35 AM

On that I try to emphasize I've worked with a bunch of different systems over the years and I'm good at picking things up.  That's really what problem-solving in IT is about.  You may not *know* something, but you can figure it out quickly.
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Reply #216 on: August 26, 2011, 07:55:45 AM

I had the opposite problem recently when interviewing people for a position - half of the candidates who confirmed for interviews never showed.  Head scratch

That is odd .. too many interviews to go to?

I guess so - if there's that many open sysadmin jobs in Houston, then maybe I need to put my resume out there...

On that I try to emphasize I've worked with a bunch of different systems over the years and I'm good at picking things up.  That's really what problem-solving in IT is about.  You may not *know* something, but you can figure it out quickly.
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Reply #217 on: August 26, 2011, 08:24:57 AM

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Reply #218 on: August 26, 2011, 09:59:20 AM

So now I am really, officially, going to be Sky jr. (I just passed the mandatory piss test).

Start the day after labor day.

Now to find a full time day job and I will be able to dig myself out of the debt hole I landed in from 2 years of underemployment followed by 8 months of unemployment!

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Reply #219 on: August 26, 2011, 10:07:28 AM

I find it ironic that I stopped smoking pot after I got a job that doesn't test for drugs.
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Reply #220 on: August 26, 2011, 02:51:14 PM

On that I try to emphasize I've worked with a bunch of different systems over the years and I'm good at picking things up.  That's really what problem-solving in IT is about.  You may not *know* something, but you can figure it out quickly.

See, you are the type of person I would hire.

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Reply #221 on: August 26, 2011, 08:39:44 PM

Me too, but it's hard to show that on a resume that can get past HR's keyword-based cock block.

Edit: also, everyone says they learn fast, but few actually do  awesome, for real
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Reply #222 on: August 27, 2011, 05:23:57 PM

Edit: also, everyone says they learn fast, but few actually do  awesome, for real

Someone that can problem solve AND has a good work ethic is the rarest of the rare.  I hope that you find someplace that appreciates the skills you have Viin. 

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Reply #223 on: August 27, 2011, 07:43:28 PM

Edit: also, everyone says they learn fast, but few actually do  awesome, for real

Someone that can problem solve AND has a good work ethic is the rarest of the rare.  I hope that you find someplace that appreciates the skills you have Viin. 

Often, it all depends upon the context.

In my XP, in most corporate IT settings, at least on development/systems support side, departments have been whittled away, cheaper labor brought in (either via outsourcing or importing non-immigrant visa workers or even a famous IT contractor like scuttling experienced personnel in favor of cheaper younger workers who might possess certificates and knowledge but know little of how these systems at the company are utilized).

So you have a survivor mentality bunker set of those who are able to linger on, and they guard their "subject matter expertise" deftly, only willing to aid those that have favor with them. Others simply have to wait in queues or are thrown roadblocks.

Yes, any aspiring IT worker should be able to figure out the score and reverse-engineer without human help, but often, in these silos, even access is guarded those eager to go above and beyond thwarted.

Also, some people "learn fast" in those realms they take an inkling to, and if it's something completely foreign, without a helpful nudge here and there from a more seasoned (and willing!) professional, can end up total failures, even with all the "can do" bravado and "going the extra mile".

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Reply #224 on: August 28, 2011, 11:49:28 AM

In most large organizations the IT department does everything it can to thwart innovation, they have ceased to become problem solvers and become the guardians of the status quo.  This isn't entirely as horrible as it sounds since I can imagine very few IT disasters worse than thousands of employees given free rain to implement their own innovative solutions.  Apparently obtaining some sort of happy medium is harder than it sounds.
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Reply #225 on: August 29, 2011, 06:11:57 AM

There is a balance between maintaining vendor support and not rolling out new tech every month.

I'm not terribly worried about teaching people things because many of them are terrible at it.  Someone who can't ever be bothered to read the documentation I sent out the day before is not a threat to my job.  Also, as far as I know, mentoring is still something employers look for, at least in senior positions.

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Reply #226 on: August 29, 2011, 07:11:40 AM

We're having fun dealing with Xerox right now. These chuckleheads aren't even reading the contract summary they walk in the door with. "Oh, you have a coin box" Yeah, maybe if you had read that before you drove an hour to tell me you can't do anything with a coin box. Then send a guy two weeks later who has to sit for five hours on his cell phone because he doesn't know what to do.

Copier still isn't properly configured, it's been a month and a half now. Sat in a corner for the first month. Four guys have worked on it.

I want to go work for Xerox. Sounds like easy money to me.
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Reply #227 on: August 29, 2011, 11:54:11 AM

* Minvaren welcomes Lantyssa to the dark side.   DRILLING AND MANLINESS

More proof that mead > cookies.   awesome, for real

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Reply #228 on: August 29, 2011, 01:45:36 PM

Hey boss. o7

Guess my f13 reading might drop a bit. Grin

(To be fair, it's damn good mead.)

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Reply #229 on: August 29, 2011, 03:56:25 PM

Wait.. Lant is working for Min now?

YOUR WORLDS ARE COLLIDING. DON"T YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?!

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Reply #230 on: August 29, 2011, 04:28:08 PM

The stress relief is unbelievable.  For the first time in a year I'm not fretting what the next year holds.

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #231 on: August 29, 2011, 04:29:59 PM

So you make Mead now? I'm confused. That doesn't seem like IT.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE???

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Reply #232 on: August 29, 2011, 04:41:31 PM

Of course not.  Making mead is man's work; she's the Mead Wench.  Probably in a costume much like her avatar.  /sagenod

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Reply #233 on: August 29, 2011, 04:53:12 PM

The stress relief is unbelievable.  For the first time in a year I'm not fretting what the next year holds.

First time I've heard the words "stress relief" involved with taking a job at a collection agency.  Unless you're drinking the mead on the clock...   awesome, for real

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Reply #234 on: August 29, 2011, 05:17:13 PM

I would probably get a lot of relief if my job involved hitting people with a pipe and taking their stuff.

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Reply #235 on: August 29, 2011, 07:41:34 PM

I would probably get a lot of relief if my job involved hitting people with a pipe and taking their stuff.

Oh man, that is great.

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Reply #236 on: September 05, 2011, 12:40:51 PM

Fuck working on a resume is so awful.

THE WORST!

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Reply #237 on: September 06, 2011, 02:55:25 PM

Off to first evening as Sky Jr.

Hope I don't do something stupid!

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Reply #238 on: September 06, 2011, 03:28:05 PM

Off to first evening as Sky Jr.

Hope I don't do something stupid!

Don't burn it down. The rest is probably just gravy.

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Reply #239 on: September 06, 2011, 07:09:09 PM

So yeah, the Library has a fancy "Denver International Airport" kind of book return conveyer/sorting system with RFID chips in every book. Getting my Tour tonight I lok up as soon as we get in the basement (where the sorting room is) and every 4th ceiling tile is out of place.

Apparently it "loses" small/thin children's books on occasion and people need to go spelunking in the ceiling to find them. Heh.

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Reply #240 on: September 07, 2011, 05:12:34 AM

Hey boss. o7

Guess my f13 reading might drop a bit. Grin

Grats on the new position! 

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Reply #241 on: September 07, 2011, 07:35:55 AM

I just got back from interviewing for a PRN position at the hospital across town, the director up'ed the ante, and offered me a full time and will make the pay better.  I'm gonna wait till i see the written offer before I jump to a new hospital, but it is new and has more staff.
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Reply #242 on: September 07, 2011, 07:45:11 AM

I just got back from interviewing for a PRN position at the hospital across town, the director up'ed the ante, and offered me a full time and will make the pay better.  I'm gonna wait till i see the written offer before I jump to a new hospital, but it is new and has more staff.

Which one? And congrtas on offer.
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Reply #243 on: September 07, 2011, 09:40:09 AM

So yeah, the Library has a fancy "Denver International Airport" kind of book return conveyer/sorting system with RFID chips in every book. Getting my Tour tonight I lok up as soon as we get in the basement (where the sorting room is) and every 4th ceiling tile is out of place.

Apparently it "loses" small/thin children's books on occasion and people need to go spelunking in the ceiling to find them. Heh.
Welcome to library tech (well, really most tech imo). An expensive solution that ends up being a giant pain in the ass, but you're married to because it was Expensive, so Deal With It. I bet someone went to a seminar (aka sales pitch) and thought it Looked Cool. And buzz words were unleashed like a motherfuckin' lead farmer.

Do you get to work with the public or is it all staff support. The staff support tends to be overall less stressful, but helping the public is way more rewarding. I can't count how many people in a dozen years I've helped connect with distant family, get a job, start a business, defend themselves in court, etc. Wonder what they'll do when we shut down.

Not to mention the pure fun stuff like being able to turn people on to new music, games and books.
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Reply #244 on: September 07, 2011, 10:15:37 AM

I will mainly be doing staff/backend support but I will be cross trained in the basics to help patrons if they stop me as I am passing through (or if they need help when busy).


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