Job thread

[Paelos]

Yeah I'm amazed some people are employed. TIES!?!? FUCK YOU AND YOUR SOCIETY!

[Yegolev]

When I said there are worse things about jobs than ties, I do realize that this is a subjective area.  I figure most people will choose money over mild strangulation (buy some new shirts, fatty).

It's fine, though.  If everyone had my sensibilities, I'd have a lot more competition in my job space.  It would be like if I was a pro athlete and I was complaining that the rest of the league wasn't working hard enough.

[Paelos]

I think the icing on the cake was Schild saying he would rather suck dick than wear a tie.

[Merusk]

Yeah I'm amazed some people are employed. TIES!?!? FUCK YOU AND YOUR SOCIETY!

Is this where we say that despite hanging with them on the interwebs and recognizing many clearly have sound technical skills I wouldn't hire half the board based on inputs here? No? Ok. 

[Paelos]

I've come to realize by posting here that IT is completely different than any other business industry I work with. That's fine, because I think we've lowered the expectations bar for their appearance.

That being said, first guy on the chopping block when shit hits the fan is going to be the IT guy dressed in flip flops with a shitty attitude.

[Yegolev]

It's true because I've seen it happen.  A lot.  While dress doesn't REALLY affect work directly, slop clothes are symptoms of core traits that usually also manifest in slop work as well.

[Ironwood]

That being said, first guy on the chopping block when shit hits the fan is going to be the IT guy dressed in flip flops with a shitty attitude.

You don't say ?

I wore ties until I hit Director.  I haven't worn one since, even though the jobs changed.  I still find the turn this thread has taken to be odd, but hey ho.

I would be really, really, really fucking annoyed if someone was to take the idea that I didn't wear a tie to be any indication of my fucking Godlike skills, however.  I don't think many people here think like that anymore, or if they do, they're usually more worried about the decision to be buried beside the spouse or not and why the kids never call anymore and just where did the slippers go ??

You know.  Accountants.

[Paelos]

You can be great at your job and dress however you like. That being said, there's a pretty standard correlation between appearance and work. Fat workers tend to be less productive and cost more, sloppy dressers tend to advance slower, and some studies have shown that dressing professionally has psychological effects of boosting your attention and output.

[Trippy]

I've come to realize by posting here that IT is completely different than any other business industry I work with. That's fine, because I think we've lowered the expectations bar for their appearance.

That being said, first guy on the chopping block when shit hits the fan is going to be the IT guy dressed in flip flops with a shitty attitude.

That guy in the flip-flops with the shitty attitude is also the only person who knows how to maintain the critical infrastructure. I.e. he has job security for life

[Yegolev]

I don't want to get dragged into anything, but my point isn't that a tie makes you look good.  Rather I say that if you want to play ball then you have to wear the uniform.  Maybe the uniform is slacks and a polo shirt, maybe it's a tiedye tee with cheeto stains, doesn't matter.  If you aren't willing to wear the uniform, that's a indicator that you won't fit on the team.

That guy in the flip-flops with the shitty attitude is also the only person who knows how to maintain the critical infrastructure. I.e. he has job security for life

Man, I wish that world still existed.

[Paelos]

That guy in the flip-flops with the shitty attitude is also the only person who knows how to maintain the critical infrastructure. I.e. he has job security for life

People at the top of a regular business don't understand or value that at all. In my experience, people who think they have job security because "I'm the only one who can run this!" They usually don't.

It doesn't matter if they were the only ones keeping things afloat from IT to payroll to AP to shipping. If it's an admin process, the top brass will cut you in a heartbeat, and let the chips fall where they may.

Good companies don't silo people and also don't allow people to command one aspect of the business. That's why company rotations can be so valuable.

[Yegolev]

I assumed Trippy was being facetious.

[Paelos]

My sarcasmeter has been broken for years.

[Strazos]

Welp, to bring this back to actual job themes, I passed my Spanish exam today, so I can now move on with my life and prepare to move to Monterrey in a few weeks.

I'll be sure to say hello to all the narcos for everyone...or rather, have the entry level folks do that.

[Merusk]

I assumed Trippy was being facetious.

I didn't since I still hear it as a common utterance. But then, as Twain said, Cincinnati has always been 20 years behind.

[koro]

We were just informed at work tonight (graveyard shift, yay) that instead of the already-shite work schedule we'd been working under all year (work five days, then work six days, except when we get scheduled on weekends we're supposed to have off, which was almost every week), we're now going to be alternating between working six days, then seven days, giving us all of two Sundays off every month, probably 'til Thanksgiving.

I desperately need to find a new job.

[Ironwood]

Yes, you do.  What hours ?

[Signe]

I had to wear a tie and a school uniform when I was a little kid.  I hated it SO SO SO much.  Especially the tie.  Luckily, in third grade I got into a bit of trouble and the school and my mother had a huge argument and she was told not to enroll me again.  My family was always having fights with the church.  They apologised not long after and told her they'd take me back, but she said no.  Thankfully.  I hate nuns, too.  Sorry if some of you are nuns.

I think suits and ties are silly for men to work in, too, unless they like the look themselves.  I think people should be as comfy as possible when they work but probably not mostly naked. 

[Teleku]

That being said, first guy on the chopping block when shit hits the fan is going to be the IT guy dressed in flip flops with a shitty attitude.

In my experience, its usually the sharply dressed marketing and sales people who get shitcanned first when things go sour, long before IT.    

Welp, to bring this back to actual job themes, I passed my Spanish exam today, so I can now move on with my life and prepare to move to Monterrey in a few weeks.

I'll be sure to say hello to all the narcos for everyone...or rather, have the entry level folks do that.

Awesome, congrats man!  You should have fun down there, narcos and all.  Also, I imagine your well and ready to get away from FSI and Oakwood life, heh.

[Bunk]

If you want to get back on track, my department is hiring for a Web Developer/Content Writer, if anyone wants to move to BC.

Not a high end job, but its a good company and you get to live in BC. Requirements include Joomla, CSS, HTML5, PHP, Java, and SQL. And Razor - whatever the hell that is.

[Merusk]

That being said, first guy on the chopping block when shit hits the fan is going to be the IT guy dressed in flip flops with a shitty attitude.

In my experience, its usually the sharply dressed marketing and sales people who get shitcanned first when things go sour, long before IT.    

The marketing and sales force is a revolving door at any well-run place. If they're competent and aren't leaving on their own after 3-4 years you're paying them too much or made their life far too cushy.  I'm mercenary in my dealings with companies but they make me look positively loyal.

[Paelos]

The marketing and sales force is a revolving door at any well-run place. If they're competent and aren't leaving on their own after 3-4 years you're paying them too much or made their life far too cushy.  I'm mercenary in my dealings with companies but they make me look positively loyal.

Yep they are mercs and they are paid to be mercs.

[koro]

Yes, you do.  What hours ?

What hours do I work now? 11 PM - 7 AM, with a 30-minute commute each way.

[schild]

Better than wearing a suit every day.

[koro]

I would rather be in a suit than working in a 90-100+ degree Fahrenheit factory floor, standing on my feet for 7.5 hours a night with my only break being a 30-minute lunch, working 6-7 days a week.

For all of $10 an hour, and a $.50/hour third shift premium that the company can't even bother paying you all of.

[schild]

I would consider that a weight loss regimen. So I could fit into a nicer suit.

Always look on the bright side of life. Doo doo. dooo doo doo doo. doo.

doo doo

[koro]

It's less of a weight-loss regimen and more of a "how badly can you fuck your back up by 35?" regimen.

From the amount of physically fit, active youngish men I work around who all have back pain to some degree or other, the answer is usually "pretty badly".

[Ironwood]

Yes, I'm going to reiterate the information you already know.

You need a new job.

[Engels]

For my birthday, I just got a House Stark T-Shirt, a Batman T-Shirt, an 'internet box' T-Shirt (from the IT crowd skit) and an amazing Jimi Hendrix T-Shirt. They are all going to be worn to work. Noone cares what the IT dude wears.

[Abagadro]

I've rather successfully converted my department to "no ties while hanging around the office" by basically not caring that I was one of the very few not wearing a tie all the time. 

[Xuri]

In my previous job there was exactly one guy in an office of some ~200 people who wore a tie to work. Every day.

[Ghambit]

Update:  soooo, I write this now from Washington, DC.   I got called up last minute for a pretty awesome Dept. of Energy paid internship.  Had to friggin scramble out of Tennessee and pack up a large chunk of my life (i.e. my bags are mostly computer gear) to be in DC the next day (last week).  Been hectic, but a fun ride.  Great energy here, as usual.

Anyways, it amps up my resume as well as my transcripts so I should be able to parlay this into some more scholarship money and yet more internships; whilst here I grow my network substantially.  I've already met quite a few people that could change a life with the snap of a finger.

PhaseIII is in August, wherein I attempt to leave the fuckstupid confines of soFla for good. (errr, at least until I'm making a good buck again)

[Viin]

Awesome, sounds like you've landed a good gig for the summer.

[Signe]

Good luck!  Here's to lots of finger snapping in your general direction!

[schild]

Update:  soooo, I write this now from Washington, DC.   I got called up last minute for a pretty awesome Dept. of Energy paid internship.  Had to friggin scramble out of Tennessee and pack up a large chunk of my life (i.e. my bags are mostly computer gear) to be in DC the next day (last week).  Been hectic, but a fun ride.  Great energy here, as usual.

Anyways, it amps up my resume as well as my transcripts so I should be able to parlay this into some more scholarship money and yet more internships; whilst here I grow my network substantially.  I've already met quite a few people that could change a life with the snap of a finger.

PhaseIII is in August, wherein I attempt to leave the fuckstupid confines of soFla for good. (errr, at least until I'm making a good buck again)

Message me, I know one of the most connected people when it comes to the department of energy. In fact, I rented a room in her house for 18 months.