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Reply #665 on: August 23, 2012, 09:15:00 PM

Was that after your masters?  Because 3 years for a PhD would be atypical.  This article says that the average time for a PhD is 8.2 years and in the field of education it balloons up to 13 years.  That seems excessive for what you get out of it.
My department in engineering school managed to churn PhDs out of people who actually worked hard in 2.5-3 years.  Some people spent a year longer, but if you weren't done in 4 years you were either stupid or lazy.  If you were lazy as fuck or just dumb it could take MUCH longer: one guy in my department whose resume I managed to check out I found had started college when I was in 1st grade.  And he got his PhD 2 years after I got my master's, I think it was a mercy degree just to get him to leave.  It took him almost 11 years...
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Reply #666 on: August 24, 2012, 12:23:52 PM

Today wraps my second official week in looking for work.

About 16 resumes submitted thus far for various IT admin positions, and I just lined up my first interview on Monday.  Wish me luck...

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Reply #667 on: August 24, 2012, 12:25:52 PM

Good luck! That seems pretty promising that you've already got an interview.
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Reply #668 on: August 24, 2012, 01:17:47 PM

Yeah, an interview already after only two weeks is damn great.  Good luck!

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Reply #669 on: August 24, 2012, 03:41:52 PM

About the $45/hour jobs, I am only looking at AIX or other UNIX admin positions.  I don't know what other people are searching on.  I am confident, however, that if someone has experience in any UNIX flavor they will be able to move sideways into any other UNIX if they are a good study.  I am going to assume that since Macs run on linux, there are some transferable skills.  Of course, I don't know a lot about linux's essential differences but really, how hard could it be to learn a new vfs or fstab layout?  Can you read a man page?  Can you read a command reference?  Ask questions when you get stuck (without fear!)?  If you can script in bash, you can script in ksh, csh(eww) or even perl with some study.

Once you get good you can bring in a lot more, but those positions are hard to find.  Although I am looking for people who know AIX, VIOS and PowerHA but I'm not currently seeking entry-level $30/hr people, rather I need the $60/hr people.

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Reply #670 on: August 24, 2012, 07:05:38 PM

Today I was looking at all of the game industry people I am indirectly connected to on LinkedIn.  Now that I know how to lead a team, and more importantly how to fire people, I'm wondering if I can get a job in the industry that meets my salary requirements.

Seems totally unlikely. Ohhhhh, I see.  But I'm open to the idea.

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Reply #671 on: August 24, 2012, 07:32:44 PM

I'm wondering if I can get a job in the industry

Probably.

that meets my salary requirements.
Probably not.

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Reply #672 on: August 24, 2012, 07:42:34 PM

Indeed.  I'll keep schlepping commercial UNIX for now.

Searching for "AIX" in the HP job tool gives funny results.

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Reply #673 on: August 24, 2012, 08:45:44 PM

Searching for "AIX" in the HP job tool gives funny results.

Does it auto-correct it to HP-UX ?

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Reply #674 on: August 25, 2012, 02:30:07 AM

and more importantly how to fire people,

Wow.

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Reply #675 on: August 27, 2012, 03:04:00 PM

Well, I aced the headhunter's interview today - was told to expect a call for a second interview from the IT manager "tomorrow, more than likely."

Was a bit surprised how calm I was in the interview - but then again, I don't apply to positions I'm not qualified for (or possibly overqualified, as the headhunter indicated).

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Reply #676 on: August 28, 2012, 04:45:35 AM

Despite not enjoying the first at all, I have a second interview.  I also have to complete a personality test and an intelligence test.  Then a 45 minute presentation.

I'm really not sure I want the job at all, never mind that much.

 Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #677 on: August 28, 2012, 11:02:42 AM

Despite not enjoying the first at all, I have a second interview.  I also have to complete a personality test and an intelligence test.  Then a 45 minute presentation.

I'm really not sure I want the job at all, never mind that much.

 Ohhhhh, I see.

I can't wait to find out how you do on a personality test.

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Reply #678 on: August 28, 2012, 01:18:15 PM

I've taken them before.  I do very well, except in the area of optimism/pessimism.   Humour/Fun and Leadership are usually the strengths, oddly.

It's always wise to bear in mind that you chaps don't actually know me.   awesome, for real

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Reply #679 on: August 28, 2012, 02:17:46 PM

I don't know Haemish either, that doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy his personality results  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #680 on: August 28, 2012, 02:20:22 PM

Was that after your masters?  Because 3 years for a PhD would be atypical.  This article says that the average time for a PhD is 8.2 years and in the field of education it balloons up to 13 years.  

Gulp.  I start my PhD in Instructional Technology this year.

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Reply #681 on: August 28, 2012, 02:25:17 PM

Yuck, good luck with that!

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Reply #682 on: August 28, 2012, 04:08:23 PM

I've taken them before.  I do very well, except in the area of optimism/pessimism.   Humour/Fun and Leadership are usually the strengths, oddly.

It's always wise to bear in mind that you chaps don't actually know me.   awesome, for real

Perhaps not, but as someone who's "known" you nigh on 10 years now none of the above results are surprising, regardless of how much shit I may give you otherwise.

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Reply #683 on: August 28, 2012, 06:32:22 PM

and more importantly how to fire people,

Wow.


I'm bona-fide! /o_brother_where_art_thou

Well, not quite... they were just contractors so it's not like they had real jobs, or real hopes and dreams, or a real retirement plan, etc.  I had to hand it to the one Windows guy who pretended to be a AIX specialist for about a month; that one was my fault entirely for believing what the contract company said.  Then one day he tells me he needs to know "the admin password". Ohhhhh, I see.  Shortly after that, I took him into a room with me and a phone, then put my technical lead and my manager on speaker so we could give him another technical interview.  I did suggest he employ more honesty in future jobs, as he was being escorted off the premises.

So, I guess if you need someone who knows how to gut a fish, I've done it.

Does it auto-correct it to HP-UX ?

More or less, and it throws in a lot of other things.  Weird things.  I'm mostly counting on my current boss spreading my good name to the other managers, since that's what counts anyway.  Not this qualification and experience stuff.

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Reply #684 on: August 28, 2012, 06:37:14 PM

and more importantly how to fire people,

Wow.


I'm bona-fide! /o_brother_where_art_thou

Well, not quite... they were just contractors so it's not like they had real jobs, or real hopes and dreams, or a real retirement plan, etc.  I had to hand it to the one Windows guy who pretended to be a AIX specialist for about a month; that one was my fault entirely for believing what the contract company said.  Then one day he tells me he needs to know "the admin password". Ohhhhh, I see.  Shortly after that, I took him into a room with me and a phone, then put my technical lead and my manager on speaker so we could give him another technical interview.  I did suggest he employ more honesty in future jobs, as he was being escorted off the premises.

So, I guess if you need someone who knows how to gut a fish, I've done it.

Does it auto-correct it to HP-UX ?

More or less, and it throws in a lot of other things.  Weird things.  I'm mostly counting on my current boss spreading my good name to the other managers, since that's what counts anyway.  Not this qualification and experience stuff.

Letting go of a contractor is not the real thing.

No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Reply #685 on: August 28, 2012, 06:50:56 PM

It is not.

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Reply #686 on: August 29, 2012, 01:49:32 AM

I'm just amazed that that's the 'important' thing in this scenario.

Firing is hard, really fucking hard, and people in management should know how to do it and do it properly, but honestly if you're good at hiring and budgeting, it should never really be an 'issue'. (Though it will have to be done at some point)

And, yeah, shoving contractors out the door is a lot different from pushing the guy who's worked with you for 15 years, but just doesn't get and cant' get the direction the company is going in now. 

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Reply #687 on: August 29, 2012, 01:50:14 AM

I've taken them before.  I do very well, except in the area of optimism/pessimism.   Humour/Fun and Leadership are usually the strengths, oddly.

It's always wise to bear in mind that you chaps don't actually know me.   awesome, for real

Perhaps not, but as someone who's "known" you nigh on 10 years now none of the above results are surprising, regardless of how much shit I may give you otherwise.

10 years of imaginary me.  Where does the time go ?

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Reply #688 on: August 29, 2012, 02:20:06 AM

I don't think I could ever fire anyone.  Just couldn't.  Even if I hated their slimy guts.  For all my love of violent games and super scary gory films, I'm about as mushy as they come.  In real life, that is.  I cry when someone looks at me cross-eyed.  Sometimes I hate me for that.  I'm SO at the top of my soft list.  (and, yes, most of you are on some sort of list of mine - I'm a list person)

I'm sure IW will excel in both the IQ and the Personality test.  You KNOW he'll ace the first one and those clever little brainy cells of his will give him the ability to trick the second one.  Right? 

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Reply #689 on: August 29, 2012, 12:19:38 PM

Firing is hard, really fucking hard...

Yeah, that.   swamp poop

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Reply #690 on: August 29, 2012, 12:29:48 PM

I find firing people quite easy.  It usually devolves into: You're not meeting expectations and I have to let you go.  Of course, all of my employees know that they're on soft money, so they know they will all be fired eventually.  That makes things much easier from a legal standpoint.

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Reply #691 on: August 29, 2012, 02:00:09 PM

I would have never guessed it could be so...emotionally draining, to permanently ban someone from the country.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #692 on: August 29, 2012, 04:26:18 PM

I would have never guessed it could be so...emotionally draining, to permanently ban someone from the country.  Ohhhhh, I see.

Damn, Strazos, you win.  Amazing how far someone will go just to outdo others!

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Reply #693 on: August 29, 2012, 04:57:48 PM

Seriously, way to one up everyone - jerk.                 awesome, for real

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Reply #694 on: August 29, 2012, 05:01:14 PM

I would have never guessed it could be so...emotionally draining, to permanently ban someone from the country.  Ohhhhh, I see.

Considering what it took for my wife to fire someone in federal government (18 month process and pending appeals), I can imagine. 

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Reply #695 on: August 29, 2012, 11:28:00 PM

Try having to ride herd on 2000 union employees.

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Reply #696 on: August 30, 2012, 05:13:48 AM

I would have never guessed it could be so...emotionally draining, to permanently ban someone from the country.  Ohhhhh, I see.

We had an employee two offices down from me who was here on a work visa.  A condition of his employment was that he could get a security clearance.  So, if could get the clearance he could work in the US and eventually become a citizen.

Yeah, while waiting for the clearance to go through he took an unannounced trip to Iran to visit family (he was Iranian), failed his clearance investigation because of that, got fired and was expelled from the country and is now probably on every watch list in Europe and the US.  If he had cleared the trip through the security office it would have been fine.

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Reply #697 on: August 30, 2012, 05:52:37 AM

I once shot a man in the face, just to see what a hole in a man's face would look like.

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Reply #698 on: August 30, 2012, 06:18:16 AM

I once shot a man in the face, just to see what a hole in a man's face would look like.

I would probably find it easier to shoot a man in the face and peek through the hole because no words are involved.  I tend to stutter, fidget and blush in awkward confrontations which make words hard.  Shooting in the face, however, doesn't involve conversation.  And when I hurt someone's feelings, I usually try to give them my shoes to make up for it.  And I love my shoes!

Like I said, I don't think I could ever fire anyone and I don't want to have to shoot them in the face, either.  Why can't everyone just, you know, hang out?

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Reply #699 on: August 30, 2012, 07:06:51 AM

Firings are never easy because usually the people are too clueless to see it coming in my industry. However after every tax season there's a two week window before the May Death March. This season was the first one where everyone kept their jobs, but it was close.

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