Your very first post

[Nevermore]

I'm still waiting for CSI: WoW.

[brellium]

Well here then, I was thinking something along the lines of ltm.net...

God, you guys go through too much effort,

http://www.mexgrocer.com/1275.html, add minced peppers to taste.

Coincedentally, I didn't actually try that until last weekend, it did come out quite tasty. Normally, I just pour out the can of sauce out as use it a plain salsa.

Tomatos, onions, jalapenos, garlic, and some chipotle chile powder (gave it a nice smokey taste) minced. So, half a tomato, half a large white onion, 1-2 jalapenos, a tablespoon (or two cloves) of garlic and a tablespoon of chipotle powder per (2) two 7.75 ounce cans of EL PATO SALSA de JALAPENO.

Now being that I'm lazy, I just tossed everything into the blender.

[squirrel]

I assume this means post WTO - no idea what my first post there was.

Here it was on March 18, 2004, 11:23:31 am:

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.  We still play MMORPG's, we still play single player games and hey, there's some damn fine games on consoles. Besides, having a direction is over-rated...and maintaining teh hate against the 10^3 MMORPG's on the market right now has some seriously diminishing returns. Now if Haemish starts bumpfuzzling furry's or Boog starts saying nice things about, well, anything, then i'll panic.

[Selby]

I posted something about music, then WoW.  Surprise?  I think not!

[brellium]

Well here then, I was thinking something along the lines of ltm.net...

God, you guys go through too much effort,

http://www.mexgrocer.com/1275.html, add minced peppers to taste.

Coincedentally, I didn't actually try that until last weekend, it did come out quite tasty. Normally, I just pour out the can of sauce out as use it a plain salsa.

Tomatos, onions, jalapenos, garlic, and some chipotle chile powder (gave it a nice smokey taste) minced. So, half a tomato, half a large white onion, 1-2 jalapenos, a tablespoon (or two cloves) of garlic and a tablespoon of chipotle powder per (2) two 7.75 ounce cans of EL PATO SALSA de JALAPENO.

Now being that I'm lazy, I just tossed everything into the blender.

Damn, those cans are still horribly over priced, 46 cents at Wallmart

[schild]

I assume the people who aren't posting are the ones who thought I would kidnap their children and beat their family to death with ad money.

[Merusk]

March 18, 2004 in a thread titled "Is Waterthread searching hopelessly for direction?"

Where the fuck is Boog?  This thread needs some serious "Quit your sand-in-the-pussy whining" type of Boog love.

So like the first day or so of F13 with WT posts being lost to oblivion.

[Ratman_tf]

Dude. If you stab someone with a sharp hunk of steel, you rip tissues and puncture organs. You don't do X amount of some imaginary "Hit Points".

ALL video games have abstract combat mechanics.

From the first Tab Ras thread. I waded right into the nerdfight.

I like to drop in here, and read the stuff people post, but man, sometimes it feels like this board is full of cranky old fuckers who've played every game and are just bitter that they can't go back to UO/EQ/Pong/whateverthefuck and relive their golden gaming moments.

P.S. Shadowbane was brown.

From the same thread.  

[Sheepherder]

[My bullshit about people who spew nonsensical bullshit, quests, and immersive games.]

P.S. My first post, so: MARK JACOBS HAI LOOK HERE!
P.P.S Tried to cut down the size of my novel, it's hard with the quotes and image.

I feel like I owe Schild thanks, because I never did buy a copy of Warhammer even though a bunch of my WoW guild were getting into it.

[RhyssaFireheart]

I quit going to P2P a while back, there was never anything worth looking at there.

Plus, the crappy front page icons annoyed me to no end.  Ugh.

Have I really been here this long?  First post was in a thread asking if P2P was ever coming back, lolololol!

[Sir T]

One thing that should be remembered is that all this began with IAC and GF utterly hammering a BOB fleet in rr- and 4-O, and chasing them into 49- where The Master Stratagist fucked over his usual tactics by doomsdaying his sides own fighters. With the result that multiple heavy interdictors were able to sit there eating multiple doomsdays and going "And?" SO claims that this somehow validates the skill of the average BOB pilot is moonshine, as basically without the great buttplug, yesterday was an utter humiliation for BOB (as it is IAC was actually positive in kills for yesterday. Imagine that!) I seriously don't see why other people in BOB would be so happy with the kills provided by Shrikes DDing Exactly on the hour, with instant damage on the hour while everyone else took 15 minutes to even even lock. At least not without some scary personality cult going. In other words replace Shrikes "we are better than you with "I am better than you" and you might  have a more accurate glance at his true attitude.

Also it wasn't just the Russians and GF that were trying to stabilise the node. IAC FC ordered everyone that could not tank a doomsday and wasn't an interdictor to CTRL-Q.

Anyway sod it. We will get him next time. And I'm not surprised the BOB is jolly as any kind of victory for them is rare at this point.

And first post. Yey.

[Edit]And in some revenge, and for those that care, BOB lost 2 Carriers in 49-u this morning.

In the eve online war thread. I guess I haven't changed much :S

[NiX]

Well, at least I can get a GameCube for a pack of Necco wafers and some pocket lint.

And if the RE games end up sucking you can use your GC as a blunt object. What else is the handle for?

I'm still a useless poster.

[Miasma]

You're wrong again Shockeye, mark my words WoW is destined to have ten million, yes I said ten million subscribers within a few years at which point someone like, let's say activision, will buy them out for an ungodly amount of money.  It's quotes like that which make me question your judgement, I wouldn't be surprised if you wind up being quietly banned under a cloud of silent drama.

And as for Bruce's doomcasting of Nintendo he should know better than to write them off.  While everyone else is gunning for better and more expensive graphics they're probably coming up with something revolutionary like a cheap as dirt system that uses a novel controller.  Maybe it could like, use motion detection and infrared to mimic real life movements or something, I dunno.  But it will be huge and crush both Sony's and Microsoft's sales numbers.

And the United States will elect a black man president in 2008.

[NiX]

You filthy liar.

[taolurker]

My first post was also about the move to new forums, back on the day H20 closed. My response was definitely one of the more tame ones during that period.

Once posting gets back to normal, a game dev forum might be added, only because some future dev might take some insight from it.

Assuming that the "red names" can actually log in without being able to see what they're typing into the username/password fields... Or that they will continue to post as much.  What exactly would be considered "normal" anyway?

I really was more upset that conversations that were already in progress were interrupted, which happened twice this week, with not only WT but The Morlocks as well. Are the two old "archives" at least still there or did you Pika! and make everything disappear like they did with the front page and forums?

Consolidation was something I always thought was a good thing, and still see various differing websites cobining as a positive thing. I sadly also know that no one site could contain all the personalities (ie "names" us old timers have been reading on forums for years), and exist together without having meltdowns and whatnot.

This combination and fear of change, is already creating dangerous meltdown quality threads, which is both promising and disturbing. I know the community will survive, even if some of it migrates to other places.

I also second what was said about reading the Dev forum although never joining in much. I definitely prefer gaming dicussion seperated PC and Console gaming, but only because of my not owning a console ATM.

[Viin]

Technically, this is my second post. My first was two words: "Yay Guildwars!" - Hows that for an intro?

Speaking of "moments to learn, a life time to master" - anyone tried Puzzle Pirates? Kinda fits that nicely.

It think the key issue is this:

 Do you allow player skill to influence gameplay?

If the answer is yes, well there goes half your crowd. If you say no, well there goes the other half.

Maybe we just expect too much from MMOs.. should we be playing SWG for our RPG fix and Counter Strike for our twitch/skill fix?

Or maybe one of those fabled MMO RTS FPS Tactical Simulation games? (Hmm, almost sounds like Natural Selection without the first M!)

 - Viin

[Jeff Kelly]

My first post was in a movie recommendation thread. List is still valid in my opinion.

That was 5 years and 1,100 posts ago...

The "Hi I'm a foreigner, be nice to me" introduction was a bit much however.

OK, this thread actually drove me to register here and actually delurk. Hi all !

My not so comprehensive list of films which were under the radar but left an impression for me.

Mind you since I live in germany these might be films which might have been rather popular in the States but just didn't make it over here. There are also most certainly some german flicks in my list where I do not know the english title (if it even exists)

Disclaimer: english is not my mother tongue, but pointing out  spelling and grammar errors is not considered rude behaviour by me. (At least if one's not being anal about it)

In no particular order

"Das Boot" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082096)

One of the best world war II anti-war movies ever. Period. If you get the chance try to get your hands on the original tv miniseries. The film is just an edited and shortened version of said series. (The miniseries can be ordered on DVD and even has an english language track)

I never had the chance to see the series in '81 (I was five at the time) but got my hands on the dvds and it is still great.

"Lola rennt (run lola run)" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0130827)

Restored my faith into the german movie business. Before Lola rennt came out 99% of the films produced and directed by germans sucked big time or where just some cheesy pseudointellectual art house bullshit (or both). Notable exception Wim Wenders. I just love "Der Himmel ueber Berlin" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093191). Whoever made the sucky remake "City of Angels" just should be shot IMHO.

It astonished me because it showed me that german films actually could be cool if they tried to.

Ronin (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0122690):

A little John Frankenheimer Flick with amazing car chases, with DeNiro, Sean Bean and Jean Reno and of course Natasha McElhone in it. Nothing really spectacular but the first DVD i bought and I like actually watch it from time to time. If only DeNiro could get through a film without mumbling unintelligibly.

Worst movie ever in this regard is Heat. Cool movie but a big DeNiro/Pacino mumblefest. I actually had to switch to the german dub because I couldn't understand these two most of the time. I never had to do this while watching trainspotting which had some awful english dialect in there.

Memento(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209144):

Stumbled upon this film because we were bored at the time and just picked some random movie to watch. I very much liked the narrative and the premise of this movie. It imho shows how important our memory is for evaluating our next step and how easy it is to jump to wrong conclusions or how easy somebody can be manipulated if one doesn't know all the facts.

Pi (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138704): Same as for Memento I just stumbled across it.

Old Boy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569): Saw it at the annual Fantasy Filmfest in Nuremberg.  Revenge is obviously a big topic for Mister Park since he also directed Sympathy for mister vengeance.

Jeff

p.s. honorable mention goes to Urotsukidoji for introducing me to the fact that the Japanese are very strange people indeed.

[Sjofn]

My first post was in a (the?) "Vanguard totally crashed and burned" thread:

Nah, man.  We Xboxers aren't to blame, it those damn Zoo Tycooners!  Hang 'em high, I say!

It's my fault. I bought the first one and the second one! And every single expansion. Bwahahaha!

I still love Zoo Tycoon. 

[FatuousTwat]

My first post, something about Titan Quest:

I bought it and played until almost the end of Egypt, then had to re-install. Doing that apparently deleted my savegames (I was expecting an option to keep them like most other games), so now I have to start over . Well at least I can drop Earth for Spirit like I've been wanting to do since about 30 minutes after I trained in it.

I don't think I actually played that game ever again.

+1 to the people who waited a long time before posting (7~ months). I don't remember my first WT post, but I was probably 16-17 at the time, so it was surely something retarded.

[Grimwell]

Interesting...

My kid has been grinding the game for the last few days. He loves it. That's your demographic -- 10 year old kids who can spend their allowance to get member benefits if they want. They just need to give the kids the ability to buy codes for access at 7-11.

I can't play the game on my computer. Well I can, but the avatars (all PC's/NPC's/Mob's) are totally invisible... makes things hard. I grouped with my kid earlier today and spent my time following the floating sword ( I can see gear ) and then throwing the mage nuke spell whenever the crosshairs would go green. I can run EQ2 on this laptop, but DR is glitching. It's beta so no big deal, and could be my Omega drivers wigging it out.

This is a perfect mash game. Something to burn some rage or boredom on. I agree with Schild, it's very, very close to something great. Not quite there yet, but it's good and will do fine in the youth market. They already have their Teen rating, and viral marketing will have this across the schools in a flash.

I find it a little humorous that this game does combat great and looks better than Runescape, but RS has more immersion and crafting options. It's like watching the old UO/EQ path a gain... DR could do better than RS if things play out well, and it's a shallow game in comparison.

As to the loot factor... direct quote while I'm typing this from the kid: "Holy cow, I'm going to keep this!" He just found a sword that is one level above him as a random drop, and he's going to hold inventory space until he can use it. I love random loot.

Man, nothing but shit really has come out since I registered eh?

I do feel prescient about the 7-Eleven note. That hit the money :)

[apocrypha]

Goddamn mine was boring! In the "what do you do" thread and GUESS WHAT it was a about photography 

OK, enough lurking for me, time for a first post! *gulp*

Up until a year ago I was a molecular biologist who'd ended up as a laboratory manager in a UK university. That turned out to suck so much that it made me ill, so after much deliberating I gave up that career (of 15 years, can't say I didn't give it a good shot!) and am now working my way towards being a professional photographer.

[Ozzu]

I've heard basically all positive for the Audiotrak Prodigy 7.1 or any other card based on the Via Envy24 chip. I've read a few reviews and I haven't purchased this card YET, but it's the next thing I'll be doing for sure.

http://www.audiotrak.net/prodigy71.htm

Google it and read a few reviews. I'm going for this over the Audigy 2 because I'm so ready to just leave the entire Creative Labs line behind.

Yeah, I never bought one.

[lamaros]

Mine was a long post on the development forum. Not going to quote it here because it's long and longer.

[Murgos]

http://www.gerrold.com/

I just found his (David Gerrolds) website and see that he is working on book 5 and 6 and possibly 7 for his War Against the Chtorr series.  For me this is great news as I feel that this series is one of the best "Invaded Earth" series ever written.  I've seen others here post similar recommendations about this series so I thought I would spread the news.

I first read these books back in the late 80's I think and at the time there were only 3 available in the series.  I have just found out that a fourth had been printed some time ago and somehow I missed it as I've been keeping half an eye open for this series to come back into print for many years.

So now I gotta blow a bunch of money on Amazon and try and get all four books in anticipation of the release of the 5th Book (hopefully some time this year as David claimed to be mostly done with it around July or August of last year).

edit: <snipped synopses>

Anyway, I highly recommend The War Against the Chtorr if you haven't read it and if you have read it then I'm sure you will be as pleased as I am to see that after 20 years the story will finally have a chance to get finished.

Ha. Ha. Ha.  6 Years later and there is no sign that there ever will be a conclusion to the story.  If this post influenced ANYONE to try the series I am truly, deeply, sorry.

[Mosesandstick]

My first post was about atheism responding to Broughden 

[K9]

My first post was about atheism responding to Broughden 

Hah, you got trolled hard   

[Cyrrex]

The 76 version of Kong was the first movie I ever saw in a theater.   It scared the piss out of me and brought me to tears, both in equal doses.  The fact that I must have been...(does some quick arithmetic)...around 3 or 4 years old at the time probably explains my reaction.  But nevertheless, the movie is permanently burned into my memory as something grand and emotional, and I will always think of it as "great" even though it probably deserves much less.

If the new version manages to evoke even a shadow of my the response it did back in 76, I will be happy.

Anyway, who the fuck takes a 3 year old to see King Kong?  Even thinking about it now gets my heart racing (I haven't seen it since).

Strange that this was my first post.  I think I had been lurking for a while and thought this was as good a place as any to casually drop in like I'd been here all along.  If anything has remained consistent, it is that most of the other 2k plus posts I've made around here have been equally as worthless.

[Stormwaltz]

Interplay shut down? Rumors are fun.
 on: June 01, 2004, 07:59:34 pm

I dearly hope that the rights for FreeSpace revert to Volition. I still want my FS3.

...aaaaaand I'm still waiting for FS3.

[CaptainNapkin]

One month later, the Clinton Station Diner in Clinton, N.J., introduced a 12.5-pound burger dubbed Zeus.

My god, that's 20 minutes from here, I think lunch for the department is on me in the near future... I may need to see this puppy first hand!

(it's sad that this is the topic that pushes me beyond just being a lurker here, isn't it?... food rules my life  )

Food still rules my life, as does lurking F13, still my forum contributions are lame.
Though we did split one of those burgers for a lunch and it was as disgusting as you'd imagine.

[Morfiend]

I fear change.

 

March 18, 2004 in a thread titled "Is Waterthread searching hopelessly for direction?"

Where the fuck is Boog?  This thread needs some serious "Quit your sand-in-the-pussy whining" type of Boog love.

So like the first day or so of F13 with WT posts being lost to oblivion.

Mine is from that same thread Merusk.

[Ironwood]

Some people have changed a LOT.

[Yoru]

Oh god. I'm almost embarassed to admit that my first post on F13 was in adulation of ATITD Tale #2.

I joined the beta last night, mostly because I'm interested in seeing if eGenesis has significantly improved the concentration of power, the terrible grind to stay even a few steps behind the Joneses, and the travel times. I felt pretty burned out on ATITD when I left a year ago, primarily due to mounting chores left over as my small guild slowly collapsed in on itself; work that seems trivial to six people rapidly becomes tiresome for two. (Actually, the big mistake that probably accelerated the burnout was folding our small guild into a large guild of uber-catasses whom I simply couldn't keep up with; in retrospect, it would've been better to capitalize on the large number of advanced and maintenance-free buildings we'd accumulated and tear down the excessive-upkeep buildings in favor of trade.)

As for the gameplay, I've found it essentially unchanged aside from the compound system (which seems poised to cause all sorts of trouble for soloers who get beyond newbie buildings and don't want to live near a public camp) and moderately increased running speeds on roads. Offroad travel is, reportedly, 90% of what the travel speed in ATITD1 was. I've not really bothered paying attention to the tech race yet, so I can't comment as to whether that's grindalicious or not.

When more systems are unlocked, I hope to find some significant changes to the core production sectors; I've read that mining is being given an overhaul (i.e. not using a fixed ore map any more), so hopefully finding an ordinary iron ore vein won't be a weeklong endeavor for anyone that can't run around the desert for twelve hours. If more of the basic production industries can be made more rapidly accessible to the general population, then hopefully an economy will develop outside the elite circles. (On the other hand, maybe Duke Nukem Forever will be released. Who knows?)

And then I didn't post anything for another 6 months.

[Fargull]

March 18, 2004, 11:03:26 am

Hmm...

Lum again sums up way to well the state of the game.  Community has always been the center.  EQ had the group centric power cycle with nifty items.  UO was basically a great big sandbox and everyone was given a pail and shovel and said do what you will.  Shadowbane turned the end game into isolated islands with a Lord of the Flies air.  DAOC has the three sided pie and both WOW and EQII are pushing for a two sided tourney.

Perhaps the reason Asia is having such a booming market for MMORPG's is because the gaming houses are offering a live arena for social gathering outside the game when your in the game.  While here in the states we hop into our virtual little skin in the darkness of our isolated little rooms.

Damn you Lum for making me think on a Thursday, and at work no less.

[Slayerik]

I must agree with the original poster, I felt so special when the mighty devs would come talk to us and grace us with their presence :) I say don't knock something till ya try it.

So, my first post I talked about the glory of starfucking Raph at WTO


The OP:

Obviously with the Haemish's article about the death of PC games and the move to this new site - we're seeing the evolution of Waterthread.  But where the heck is it going?

I always came here to read critical points of view on MMORPGs.  When the devs and serious gamers come out and talk candidly about the direction and design of their games, thats a pretty unique thing that is hard to find anywhere.  Anywhere else its heavily moderated and managed by professional PR people who are deathly scared they might piss someone off.  With the latest changes, the best part of these forums die.  I highly doubt we are going to see Raph here mixing it up with Lum and debating about the death penalty and leveling treadmills in the latest incarnation of Super Mario Bros.

Of course, Waterthread has always been a strong anti catass voice for MMORPGs - and thats fine even if I don't agree with some of the extremes people feel about it, but these changes now seem to be firmly moving the site into the casual, mass market games.  Seems like a sellout to me and I am dissappointed. 

Someone give Haemish a fucking Gamecube already and send Joe to take some lessons on cartoon drawing.  Welcome to the next Penny Arcade wanna be site.  You're really soaking in it now.

[Khaldun]

My first is an April 2004 medium-size bit of pontificating about something that had WoW players all in a fucking uproar. I can't even remember clearly what the issue was.