Eve Online - Fly and Die with F13's own Bat Country In Eve Online [recruitment]

[Slayerik]

I wouldn't mind trying this out with my 19M SP character.  Who can get me in?

2005 spy spotted.

Join f13 channel in game, and I'm sure someone can help ya out.

[Wasted]

eh fuck this game.  Lost two ships trying to work out level 3 kill missions.  Buy a replacement battleship for most of my money (insurance only covers half the market value and looked like it scaled horribly for the higher levels of coverage) and whilst flying through empire space got ganked whilst doing laundry.  Too boring to watch the whole time, not safe enough to leave alone and now I'm pretty much got stuff all money left and can only do level 2 missions which aren't worth any money at all.  Can you do level 3 mission in cruisers? The ones I tried there were just far too many ships wave after wave.

I don't remember what I liked at all about this game every single thing is a fucking hassle.

[Kageru]

You can do some level 3 missions if you are in a cruiser but you need a high skill character and a lot of experience. They're pretty trivial in a battle-cruiser though as long as you read the cheat sheet (http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=missionreports) so you know what you are facing, what resists to pack, and what the triggers are. Missions are still boring at best though. If you're not playing Eve for the PvP (which is just mostly boring) or space empire building it goes way beyond my understanding.

Pretty unusual that someone in empire would kill your battleship. They'd normally only bother if you were carrying something really valuable. Did you wander into low sec (security < .5) perhaps? Because yes, that's full of pirates in expensive ships who feed on newbie tears (every PvP game has them).

[Phildo]

It's also possible to configure your autopilot to avoid low security systems so you can safely AFK as long as you're not carrying something worth hundreds of millions.

[Comstar]

Do not play Eve in Empire. If you really want to do missions, join Bat Country and do them in Venal (next door to where we live). Several of the Venal mission hubs are controlled by Blues doing the same thing.

If you're doing missions for money, join Bat Country and do the cosmic anomalies instead- these are private spawn sites that respawn the second you clear them, and can be done in everything from a Frigate up to a Carrier.

[Endie]

eh fuck this game.  Lost two ships trying to work out level 3 kill missions.  Buy a replacement battleship for most of my money (insurance only covers half the market value and looked like it scaled horribly for the higher levels of coverage) and whilst flying through empire space got ganked whilst doing laundry.  Too boring to watch the whole time, not safe enough to leave alone and now I'm pretty much got stuff all money left and can only do level 2 missions which aren't worth any money at all.  Can you do level 3 mission in cruisers? The ones I tried there were just far too many ships wave after wave.

I don't remember what I liked at all about this game every single thing is a fucking hassle.

Like comstr says, and as has been mentioned several times already, if you hang around in empire doing missions then you will quit.  The point of Eve is to be social and do stuff with a good corp and hopefully to pvp your ass off.  Missions are probably fine if you are autistic but that's about it.

[Wasted]

All I mainly wanted to do was get used to the game again so I wasn't a complete moron when I joined some ops.  I even made a new character and ran through the tutorial again just to learn how to control the ship because I don't find anything intuitive about this game at all. 

So I run a few level 2 mission in my thorax and they are ridiculously easy so I try some level 3 ones.  I killed a lot of ships and they kept coming in waves but I can only take so much damage I can take so I figure I'll use my Dominix and it should be over kill and I can learn and have a bit of a revenue source in downtime.  From there it just seems like one dick punch after another and now I feel like I've ruined my character because I've lost so much money that I don't know how to make back.

[Phildo]

Did you try killing all the enemies in Recon?  That mission isn't designed to be one through combat, but by speeding through the warp gates and getting the hell out of there before all the other spawns show up.  I run them in a shuttle, even at Level 4.

As for your point about learning the game, you've missed out on half a dozen ops designed specifically for training new players on things like combat, scanning and surviving in 0.0.  These would probably have served you better than figuring out how to stack your resists to survive against NPCs.

Incidentally, don't try to multi-tank.  Focus on armor-tanking since you're gallente, and ignore hull/shield repairing or you're just burning excess capacitor and not accomplishing much.

[Wasted]

No it was definately a kill mission http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=GoneBerserk3 , I got to the last wave from the looks of it.

[Trigona]

Hey Wasted, I suggest you put in an app to Bat Country and see how you go.  I'm not a recruiting officer but I can assure you that the problems you're having would disappear if you were in 0.0 with us.   There's lots of easy isk to make, just from salvaging if nothing else.  Make sure you have the salvaging skill and if you get accepted to BAT pod yourself to HQ.  I'm happy to give you some isk, just let me know when you're with us.  My in-game name is Folikar.

[Phildo]

Gone berserk is pretty damn easy as long as you're careful about killing the triggers.  But yeah, forget about missions and come join us already.

[Reg]

Wasted : My character builds battleships for a living. If you need a replacement Domi just send an evemail to character Regel. Once you're in Bat Country you'll make all that money back easily in a few days. Or I can just send you some money so you can buy a new ship once you arrive in 0.0. Just let me know.

[Morfiend]

Wasted. I also would recommend joining -BAT- and coming out to 0.0. I am the annoying newbie in chat right now, and the only thing I really know well is how much I dont know. But, its still more fun in 0.0 than in Empire. I find the most exciting thing I can do in Empire is watching my skills train.

I plan to do some miner ganking once I get in to a Stealth Bomber, and get the feel for it, but even that is low sec stuff.

[Numtini]

I also would recommend joining -BAT- and coming out to 0.0

I played one month quit one month quit one month and so on from launch to January. In January I joined the folks from here out in Goonspace and haven't looked back since. It really is a completely different game.

[Musashi]

Alright.  Someone pm me the friend thingey.  God damn it.

[Lum]

I can fly a battlecruiser!   

(still a couple days out from actually killin' things with it aka T2 fittings)

[Numtini]

I can fly a battlecruiser!   

(still a couple days out from actually killin' things with it aka T2 fittings)

You don't need T2, you can always go for the top line T1 fittings. I can fit T2 on my drake pilot, but she never bothers. It's just not that big a difference. I have two Maelstrom's both with the high end T1 fittings. Just not worth the isk to replace them.

[tgr]

If I were space-poor I'd just revert back to what I found were the best isk/performance combo for most of the fittings for my hurricane. Literally the only thing I would always go T2 on, is the guns.

Then again, I never did fit my hurricane for tanking. My logic is that since I normally only fly in fleets, if I get primaried i'm likely going to die anyways.

[Lum]

I tried ratting with T1 fittings and the large ships regenerated sheilds faster than I was damaging them.

[Elaen Todir]

You need to check which type of damage the rats are vunerable to.
After that its easy.

[eldaec]

I tried ratting with T1 fittings and the large ships regenerated sheilds faster than I was damaging them.

This is probably an issue with your weapon support skills, rather than the weapons themselves.

The only difference between t2 and best t1 weaponry, is that t2 is cheaper, t2 has higher fitting requirements, t2 has a 2-10% damage bonus according to your spec skill, and t2 guns can load t2 ammo (which you don't use when ratting).

Plus use kinetic weapons vs Guristas as Elaen mentions.

[Thrawn]

Resubbed!  Not sure what part of my brain decided the best time to start playing casually again would be when I've started school and don't have much time to play.  But here I am. 

Now I just need to decide if I'm going to drop the isk for +5 implants since I will likely be spending most of my time just training in Jita....

[Slayerik]

Got a good suicide gank character Thrawn? Thinking about running a quick gank op maybe this weekend. Anyway, join BC already! Not that you'll ever see me on, with the new twins and all, but ya never know!

[Morfiend]

I tried ratting with T1 fittings and the large ships regenerated sheilds faster than I was damaging them.

Hey Lum, Nef and I have been doing Anoms in S-D, you are welcome to join us. Nef is in a drake and does most of the tanking. I am flying a Caine with mostly t1 fittings.

[Comstar]

Join the guys doing sanctums and havens in our home system - you only need 1 person to tank and everyone else goes DPS. You just warp out when the next wave spawns and warp in 20 seconds later.

Otherwise if there's NO ONE else around ratting, try the lower level ones like Hubs - they should be doable in a cruiser. The lowest level ones you can do in a frigate. Port's can be done in a Battlecruiser.

There's no reason to do belts these days.

[Musashi]

Started dinking around with the tutorials and newb missions.  Just getting my feet wet, reading the wiki.  I'll ping f13 chat tomorrow or the next day time permitting.

[Thrawn]

Got a good suicide gank character Thrawn? Thinking about running a quick gank op maybe this weekend. Anyway, join BC already! Not that you'll ever see me on, with the new twins and all, but ya never know!

Don't know if I'm joining BC or not, as much as I really really want to fly with Goons and get back to the forums to read I'll probably be very off and on playing with school/work so I'm planning on spending a lot of time in empire doing industrialish stuff.  Having all of the fleets wardecs on me all the time would suuucckkk.

I think every account I own has a scanner and/or hauler and/or ganker on it so if by some miracle times line up I'm sure I can do something to help. 

[Thrawn]

I can't stop laughing, my second day back I get suicide ganked in Empire for like 130mil worth of cargo. 

Have gankers degraded that far that 130mil is a worthwhile target?

[Trigona]

Went on a fantastic roam through enemy territory with this excellent result:
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/battles/1846

There were several newbies in the fleet and this is the sort of action you can expect if you join Bat Country.

[Comstar]

Went on a fantastic roam through enemy territory with this excellent result:
https://killboard.goonfleet.com/battles/1846

I was flying a 10mil isk blackbird and their entire fleet was shooting at me for about 5 minutes in optimal range. However, our 10 or logistics kept me alive until they gave up and tried another target. Meanwhile I am jamming 4 different ships worth 40 to 140ISK million each pretty much permanently and switched as each one went down.

[Endie]

Latest update on Incarna ("Walking in Stations"):

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-09-23-eve-onlines-incarna-for-summer-2011

EVE Online's oft-talked-about but never-nailed-down Incarna expansion (née Walking in Stations) will be released in summer 2011, Eurogamer can reveal.

Speaking exclusively this afternoon, creative director Torfi Frans Olaffson said Incarna will be the beginning of EVE Online's transition from "the space game" to "the ultimate sci-fi world".

"Incarna is in development," Olaffson began, scotching rumours to the contrary. "We are working hard on all of the back-end technology required to make it work alongside designs for what actually happens within the stations.

"Since our release cycles are very short - only six months - we have opted for rolling it out progressively. And the character creator coming out this winter with the character assets [in new expansion Incursion] is the first step towards Incarna - in a similar way that we released new planet graphics one expansion before launching planetary attacks. You'll be getting the Incarna characters this expansion, in Incursion, and the goal is that the first implementation of Incarna will becoming in the next expansion.

"That will be next summer," he added, when pressed.

"But it [already] runs in-house on our computers. We prioritised it down during Apocrypha [March 2009], and it has gone up and down in terms of prioritisation since. But it's fully operational, there are people working on it, it's on our road map - it's not going away.

Walking in Stations, as Incarna was then known, was promised on and off throughout 2009. As the name suggests, the expansion/addition allows avatars to walk and explore 3D environments; where no [EVE] man has gone before.

In closing, Olaffson reiterated that Incarna's release next summer will be a beginning rather than an end: "This will not be a full-blown new game inside EVE with 10,000 hours of content," he said. However, his overarching aim with Incarna will be to change the face of EVE Online forever.

"Incarna is not really an expansion, it's an addition to the game which is a stepping-stone in us realising our long-term goal of making EVE the ultimate science fiction simulator," offered Olaffson. "Essentially, it's the transition from EVE being 'the space game' to EVE becoming 'the ultimate sci-fi world'."

[eldaec]

Hopefully this will be like all CCP 'progressive implementations'.

ie. They'll complete the first phase (portrait design) then get distracted by passing insect and forget about the whole thing.

[Endie]

They may be learning from that, judging from the changes and development of PI from the last patch that are currently on Singularity for testing.

[Stormwaltz]

I don't see how this is supposed to revolutionize the game or draw in new customers. If "this will not be a full-blown new game inside EVE with 10,000 hours of content," how the fuck did they spend three years on it? Right now, Incarna is filed in the same folder* as Star Trek Online's ship interiors.







* The one labeled "pointless wastes of development resources."

[Sir T]

Incarna is the one thing that never made any sense to me. But it seems to be incessantly talked about by people like it was the next sliced bread.