Minecraft - f13 Server is: chugging along... again (Read OP)

[Sky]

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I've been on my creative map (Area 53) trying to learn redstone. I had an idea for a door that was just beyond my limits to create. Turns out an XOR gate was just the trick. Basically a pretty simple project: a sticky piston-driven stone door activated by a lever on either side. I was mostly struggling with having both levers work, which is where teh XOR came into play.

So I built a default (read:taken from wiki) XOR and then played with extending out various components, then I built a couple prototypes to play around with how I would actually wire it to a sensible door/level layout in a somewhat sensible space.

Then for grins I just ran a line off the output to some repeaters on music boxes for a little door chime thingy.

But playing on creative just made me want the longer block destruct/placement that seemingly doesn't work on SSP :(

[Sky]

Is there some setting for SMP that allows us to dig out 5 blocks instead of the 4 blocks of SSP? Can that setting be applied to SSP?

Weird. Started a new SSP with the current snapshot and it digs 5 ahead. My old world only digs ahead 4. So.....NM.

[Hutch]

current snapshot

I've been dinking around in a ssp world from an older "current snapshot". I'm getting impatient for them to officially publish the next update.

[Sky]

This latest snapshot said they're close to releasing 1.3.

[Xanthippe]

I'm at a loss for anything to do right now. Just waiting for the next patch. I don't want to play with the snapshot even. So much is going to change.

[Mrbloodworth]

Jens Bergensten ‏@jeb_

Ok, the plan is to get 1.3 out on August 1, with pre-releases a week prior to that. #ValveTime

[koro]

August? Jesus.

[Mrbloodworth]

This one features some heavy, heavy back end stuff. Such as unifying the server/client.

[Sky]

Snapshot is pretty stable. Can get a little laggy at times, but otherwise I've been playing on it for a few days without much issue. Surprised to hear the release date, but as long as they keep putting out the snapshots, it's ok by me (for SSP, anyway).

Once the new server goes live, looking forward to re-roofing the tudor shack with pine steps.

X, advice from my sunday beer buddy: build bigger houses :) I explained the whole villager thing, but he saw my tudor shack first and wondered why the rest of the houses (and tower) were so small. Really liked your cool windowy house, though.

[Xanthippe]

I'm just trying to get more houses so the village grows more villagers; hence the small size.. I'm about out of imagination on different looking ones.

Even considering making ugly little villager breeder spaces just to get more.

Somehow they keep disappearing though (the villagers). I am trying to figure out how to prevent them from dying out without having to resort to reseeding them. The problem is particularly difficult on hard mode, where zombies actually break doors. The only thing I know how to do to keep them alive is to build fences around towns, or to stick a block in front of a door to prevent zombies from breaking the door (which also prevents the villager from leaving). Cheesy.

[Ingmar]

Villagers will fall into holes so make sure there aren't any of those around where they are (or fence them off.)

[Fordel]

Yea, that took awhile to figure out. We even made a rail system to kidnap "relocate" villagers from another town because ours kept disappearing. 

[proudft]

First they came for the creepers, and I said nothing.

[Sky]

The last time it was a villager hole, couldn't find one this time when I had a look about. Interesting idea on the rail line because I love workin' on the railroad, all the live long day. Except I ran low on iron this last time, dernit. How does it work to relocate?

[proudft]

How does it work to relocate?

If you can manage to shove a villager into a cart, they will pretty much stay in it and you can then give the cart itself a shove onto the (hopefully) powered parts of your track and then zoooooom!  Successfully shoving them around buildings, etc, and into the cart can be somewhat maddening, though.

[Lantyssa]

Make a hole so they fall into the cart...

[Sky]

Hm. There has to be a way to automate that, I guess at some point I'll have to learn clocks. Are villagers affected by water like mobs? Maybe wash them into a hole that dumps into a cart on a timer. But then how to get them out. Hm.

Then again, if nobody is around the chunk won't load and it won't run. Bah.

[Count Nerfedalot]

How do you get the villager out at the other end?

Also, my biggest problem with keeping villagers alive is that about 1/3 of the time the zombies spawn INSIDE the houses instead of outside.  Once they even spawned in the hidey-hole basement UNDER a house where I had stashed a couple villagers in their armageddon bunker in case they were needed post-apocalypse to repopulate the planet.   

[Fordel]

Just break the cart with a sword.

[Mrbloodworth]

Snapshot 12w27a is here!  Let's jump straight into the info:

    Boats, when broken, now drop boats
    Re-added debug graph on F3 menu
    Signs are stackable now: Crafting them now gives 3 signs instead of 1, stack up to 16
    Added /debug command to enable and disable profiling
    Changed a few things around pistons - Most contraptions still work fine, but some require changes to repeater delays and similar. Overall, pistons should have fewer bugs, but will appear to update slightly slower.
    Improved performance on MP and SP, including reduced CPU, RAM & bandwidth requirements
    When opening SP worlds, users are now given their local IP address & port instead of hostname & port to avoid OS conflicts
    Creative mode inventory now shows potion effects
    Fixed some bugs
    Fixed /kill not working
    Fixed powering specific glitched pistons crashing the game
    Fixed a visual bug causing pistons to be partially invisible or in the wrong location momentarily
    Fixed being able to place portals in the nether in locations where they would end up in illegal locations in the overworld
    Fixed the game crashing when publishing SP worlds with certain language settings
    Fixed players on minecarts, boats or pigs and spider jockeys not being displayed in the correct location
    Fixed a bug with dispensers
    Fixed /say not accepting some strings form the console, often triggering the help dialogue
    Fixed being able to transmute blocks to certain data values using an orientation-dependant tripwire bug
    Fixed drinking potions in creative not consuming the potions, but still giving empty bottles
    Fixed signs sometimes not saving the text when placing them

Jeb said:
Minecraft 1.3: The Good

Lots and lots of bug fixes and new features. Players who mainly play in multi-player on servers should enjoy a smoother and more stable experience, as this has been our focus of the development. We’ve looked over the network packets and added encryption to prevent session stealing. Dinnerbone has updated the chatting screen, to allow for easier editing and clickable links.

The single/multi-player merge has added the possibility to share your single-player worlds with friends who are on the same local network. It has also enabled players to use multi-player-like commands in single-player (such as /gamemode and /give), but only if cheats are enabled.

We’ve added emeralds, emerald ore and a trading system that makes it possible to buy items from villagers. Villagers will add and remove items depending on what you buy.

We’ve added the possibility write in books and leave stories for other people.

We’ve added new terrain features, and you can choose to begin the game with a “bonus chest,” to get you started quicker.

We’ve added tripwire, so you can create new traps and contraptions.

We’ve also added new stairs, new half-slabs, cocoa plants and tweaked dispensers, leaves, cauldrons, levers, gravel, pressure plates, cookies, buckets, boats, minecarts, ice, furnaces… Plus you get magic orbs from mining and smelting (and not just killing monsters)!

Minecraft 1.3: The Bad

Since single-player has been turned into a shell on top of a background server, the game’s resource requirements have increased. When playing single-player, the game needs to be able to both simulate and emulate the world, which take many more CPU cycles. We’re working on optimizing rendering, but those improvements will not be included until Minecraft 1.4.

Minecraft 1.3: The Ugly

A couple of problems and expected features have been pushed to Minecraft 1.4. The most notable problem is the lighting issues causing black regions in the terrain. We’re looking into ways to solve this, but lighting is a very expensive calculation and we are struggling with finding a solution that doesn’t hurt framerate.

And the most notable missing feature is the modding API. Throwing out single-player was the first step in order to make the API possible, and that’s done now. We decided to release 1.3 without the API, because otherwise it would be an even longer wait for a Minecraft update.

We’ve also added an extremely basic version of “adventure mode.” We’ll work more on this in future updates.

To Summarize

The time between Minecraft 1.2.5 and 1.3 has been the longest update interval yet, and that was because we changed so much in the game engine. I (jeb_) was a little scared to push it to the public, but waiting even longer is not a solution.

If you want to get the whole Minecraft 1.3 change log, I suggest you read redstonehelper’s great summary here.

[Sky]

Stackable signs and boats dropping boats = awesome.

My newest SSP had a bonus chest, it was just a wooden axe and pick.

[koro]

Ugh, wish they would either take out the debug graph from F3 for good or move it to another unused F-key. My game slows to a chug if I hit F3, and there's general info there that's of more use to the average player than just that debug graph.

[Paelos]

I want them to hurry up with the modding API. That's what will get me playing again.

[Hutch]

Ugh, wish they would either take out the debug graph from F3 for good or move it to another unused F-key. My game slows to a chug if I hit F3, and there's general info there that's of more use to the average player than just that debug graph.

I use the x y z coords all the time when I'm planning tunnels and portals and etc.
I like that they added the line that tells you what biome you're in.

The graph is a curiosity, for sure. Try this: look straight up, or straight down, and watch the graph tail off to nothing.

That said, I would also not cry if they moved the graph(s) to another F key. This game is enough of a hog as it is.

[Mrbloodworth]

Click that link at the end of the second quote.

[Pennilenko]

The server needs the industrialcraft 2 mod and the buildcraft mod.

[proudft]

1.3 is out, sort of:

http://www.mojang.com/2012/07/the-weekly-chunk-minecraft-1-3-prerelease/

[Hutch]

According to the Minecraft home page, patch 1.3.1 is now live.

I look forward to getting home tonight  


(edit: fixed a boo-boo in the link)

[Fordel]

Proudft and I live in a desert now, it sucks 

[Xanthippe]

Proudft and I live in a desert now, it sucks 

Did our server get upgraded and biomes changed?

[Trippy]

F13 server hasn't been updated yet. There's a poll that nobody is voting in where I'm gathering feedback on whether or not to start a new world.

[koro]

Don't you pretty much need a new world to see anything new that the patch adds as far as stuff you discover, like the desert buildings and new villages?

[Bzalthek]

Usually no.  Unexplored areas will produce new shit.  It's just the already explored area which won't see anything new.

[Lantyssa]

F13 server hasn't been updated yet. There's a poll that nobody is voting in where I'm gathering feedback on whether or not to start a new world.

Reset it!

[koro]

Usually no.  Unexplored areas will produce new shit.  It's just the already explored area which won't see anything new.

I was going off the assumption that the world in question is pretty heavily explored already and reaching unexplored areas to start generating new stuff would be kind of a hassle.