Arche Age

[palmer_eldritch]

I like getting the purses.  Free larceny skill!

I'm starting to run into quests needing charcoal stabilizers.  From what I read it's going to be a real pain in the ass.

Easiest way to get these is probably to wait until a coastal zone on the opposing continent is in peace - Ynystere if you are a Westerner or Cinderstone or Sandeep if you are an Easterner - port over there and make a pack quickly, and then sail it to the relevant zone in your home continent (Two Crowns or Solis Headlands). You'd need to have a stock of the relevant raw materials for making the trade pack ready and waiting, so you can move quickly when the region goes into peace.

The trick is that reds tend to camp the way *in* to PvP zones which go in to peace.

So if you instead sail *out* of that zone - finding a way out which doesn't take you close to the way in (which is the way to the local star/material traders) - then you can probably avoid the reds. Or at least, you have more chance.

I'm not sure if it's easy to explain, so here's a pic that may help

[Bzalthek]

That is super fucking helpful.  I spent some time trying to google a tutorial but had shit luck.  I appreciate it.  Are there different trade packs, or do I need specific mats?

[Rendakor]

Each region has two different trade packs you can make, which require unique mats. For Ynystere you'd look in your crafting journal under Commerce > Haranya Specialties for the two named after Ynystere.

[Senses]

Just hijack a farm cart!

[Falconeer]

Just hijack a farm cart!

Yeah, but which one?

[Maven]

Trail of WTF right there.

[palmer_eldritch]

This is what I love about the game. Whether it's one solitary donkey or a hundred farm carts, you see people actually doing stuff in the world. They're not just spending all their time in instances, with the odd visit to the bank or auction house.

[lamaros]

This is the first mmo I've read about in a while where it sounds like people are actually talking about a multiplayer world.

[Mithas]

I think I want to get in on this. Are there guilds out there that I can join to be in on the fun even if I don't get to play very often?

[Falconeer]

ArcheAge is being mocked because people love the snark, and because it's South Korean so it's cheap to poke at it. It has its issues, but it's a great game. And yes, as lamaros said, it really is a multiplayer world. The sandbox aspects are there, there is a lot to do, a lot to care for, and player interaction is KING. Hell, to give you an idea, the main plot stops at level 35. Which is just inside the first "open pvp" zone. It's little things like this that show how much the developers did not want to give players an excuse to play by themselves. As soon as you graduate from the tutorial, which is roughly the first 30 levels, you HAVE to understand that you are in a virtual world where you cannot succed by yourself and where there are no instances, so everything you or your neighbours do exist for everyone in the world for everyone.

It is hard to adapt to the idea that you are playing a MMORPG that looks (and at first presents itself) like a WoW clone, but where PvE and loot are just one of the many aspects of the game and certainly not the most important. While this game will never be everyone's cup of tea (forced interactions? OMG!), and not necessarily original since it's heavily inspired to Ultima Online, Star Wars Galaxies and EVE, it is certainly something special and quite an achievement in its field.

[Viin]

I think I want to get in on this. Are there guilds out there that I can join to be in on the fun even if I don't get to play very often?

There's lots of active guilds that will take noobs, even if you don't play a lot. If you get on Ezi I can hook you up with the one I'm in, which is very large and active but very casual too.

[Abelian75]

you are in a virtual world where you cannot succed by yourself and where there are no instances, so everything you or your neighbours do exist for everyone in the world for everyone.

To be clear, there are actually are instanced dungeons, they just aren't the dominant style of content like in most other MMOs these days.

But yeah, I'd recommend this game to pretty much anyone interested in MMOs as a genre.  I'm not falling over myself to play it or anything, but it's really a rather unique and fresh experience.  It won't look like it at first, probably, but it is.

Also I just need to reiterate that the labor point thing is really not the shitfest it sounded like. I was one of the ones posting in disbelief they'd use such a shit system, so I feel qualified to give reassurance here.  It legitimately is primarily a way of metering how much crafting a single account can do.  I haven't run out of labor points save for one point the first day I was playing, and I've probably gained like 7 of my levels purely through crafting and gathering.  It's really not a problem.

[Falconeer]

Labor really hits you hard when/if you get obsessed with crafting or gathering. If that is the case, you'll hate the mechanic like hell cause yes you WILL run out of it and the amount you generate in a day is enough to craft for about 30 minutes or so. Yes, this is extreme and concerns higher levels of crafting, but still it IS a gating mechanic and can keep you out of one big aspect of the game if that is the one that you chose to make your primary. So yes, while labor is a very interesting concept (capping what anyone can do in a day so basically putting a cap on how quickly any server or the economy can grow, or limiting the gap between catasses and normally dedicated players), it is much less fun when you realize it keeps you out of the things you like the most. My partner LOVES to mine and she spent ours mining in the first few days. Then all of a sudden she ran out of Labor and considering you regenerate (offline) about 1080 labor over 18 hours, which is the average time between her play sessions, that is literally 25 minutes worth of mining. At that point, she can't mine anymore until the next day. That sucks, period. And real money aren't really helping here, since Labor potions give you 1000 Labor (so another 25 minutes of mining) and can only be used every 12 hours.

Again, I love the concept and how it keeps some things in check. But when it FORBIDS you from playing a big 50% of the game (anything that isn't combat) for the next 24 hours, it stinks pretty bad.

[Bzalthek]

I think I want to get in on this. Are there guilds out there that I can join to be in on the fun even if I don't get to play very often?

There's lots of active guilds that will take noobs, even if you don't play a lot. If you get on Ezi I can hook you up with the one I'm in, which is very large and active but very casual too.

You East or West?  I'm on Ezi but I'm a furry.

[Morfiend]

I'm enjoying the game for the sandboxy feel and EVE in a fantasy world type of thing. Whats driving me crazy is the lag in combat. I have a pretty good connection for American standard (100 down/20 up), but I frequently experience .5 second lag in using abilities on combat. Its really frustrating me as this causes me to miss combos, and since they have no ability queue, increased lag = reduced dps.

I'm playing West on Naimia server.

[Rendakor]

I think I want to get in on this. Are there guilds out there that I can join to be in on the fun even if I don't get to play very often?

I've got a small guild on Lucius, East if you're interested.

[Viin]

You East or West?  I'm on Ezi but I'm a furry.

I'm East too, Viin is the name. Hanging in the Laughing Coffin guild.

[Rendakor]

Ugh, that guild name is everywhere.

[Falconeer]

The Joker and Two-Face wake up to about 1000 gold of thunderstruck tree in their garden (which to give you an idea is an extremely rare and lucky occurrence which is worth about 6 months of in-game Patron Status, roughly a 100$).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySXIXbxkcgo

[Draegan]

I created two alts so I can chug 3 workman's comp pots every 12 hours for 3000 extra labor. I've been leveling the subway since the leveling content is ass.

[Bzalthek]

You East or West?  I'm on Ezi but I'm a furry.

I'm East too, Viin is the name. Hanging in the Laughing Coffin guild.

Oh hah, you guys get so much shit but I don't really see why.  I'm not very active due to work but I like being helpful when I can.  Names Bzalthek in game too if you wouldn't mine having me.

[Pennilenko]

There is a laughing coffin on kyrios as well, they are pretty much on everybody's kos list.

[palmer_eldritch]

Here's a scene from a major port in the game when the region goes into peacetime and merchants from the enemy faction rush to import their goods during the short window when it is safe. The seas outside this port contain pirates (either players from the opposing faction or players who simply attack everyone no matter what their faction) so what you see here are the merchants who succeeded in avoiding or fighting off the pirates.

This is a large picture which may screw up your browser window size if you open it and it's pretty chaotic but it might interest people who still wonder what ArcheAge is all about.

[Rendakor]

Got my 16x16 farm down finally in Falcorth Plains, the same neighborhood as my house and my 8x8. I'm 45 and the leveling areas are kinda rough, so I'm mostly just playing Farmville on the way to 50.

[Viin]

There is a laughing coffin on kyrios as well, they are pretty much on everybody's kos list.

Yeah not sure what the deal is with the multi-server presence, but it's fun to be online with ~200 others all the time. And yes, we seem to be in a lot of fights with other guilds, but that's what makes it fun!

[Rendakor]

It was the name of the ganker guild from Sword Art Online, so everyone who wants to run a ganker guild has named their guild after it.

[tmp]

It was the name of the ganker guild from Sword Art Online, so everyone who wants to run a ganker guild has named their guild after it.

Yup, Kirito is the recent Legolas/Drizzt incarnation and Laughing Coffin is the guild equivalent of that.

[Rendakor]

I think I've seen every guild they ever named in SAO on my server.

[Falconeer]

""I keep my word, as I will be here again soonish it's important that judges know I pay"

[March]

Is prison 20 Minutes game time, or 20 minutes real time?

[Threash]

I would have voted not guilty.

[Falconeer]

20 minutes real time and it doesn't advance if you log out. Yesterday someone on my server got 200 minutes. I've seen a 500+ minutes some days ago but people have been reporting more than a 1000 minutes in some extreme cases.

[HaemishM]

So I'm playing this now. I made a character on Lucius and I'm only level 13. I'll likely be taking it slow leveling as I'm only able to keep playing for an hour or two at a time without wanting to do something else. They seem to have added a bit of leveling content since I played in beta so it feels a bit quicker. I haven't even begun crafting yet as I popped an iron vein and realized that little thing costs me 10 labor. Labor may still be the one thing that keeps me from playing this game. The gliders however are pretty cool.

[March]

20 minutes real time and it doesn't advance if you log out. Yesterday someone on my server got 200 minutes. I've seen a 500+ minutes some days ago but people have been reporting more than a 1000 minutes in some extreme cases.

Wait... 200 minutes game time.  You need to keep the game up and running for 3+ hrs... without getting auto-kicked?  How does that work?  1000 hrs... that would feel a lot of time if you had to stare at a screen to keep from getting kicked.  Hopefully it also checks for macros to make sure you are not doing your time robotically. 

It would be cute if the prison population not actively "playing" the game was large enough to impact the queues.

I just assumed that Prison meant, "Time to take a break for you" not some sort of actual Prison sim.

[Falconeer]

Queues are no more by the way, as I predicted LOTS of people who wanted to try the game and ride the brief hype realized soon enough it wasn't for them. Too much openness, not enough lootness. And yes, it's a prison sim. You get a striped pijamas, and you can roam around prison and chat, but not much else. You can actually play football (soccer) in the prison field, or you can spend labor points digging rubble with a low chance of finding a key to break out of prison.