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Reply #735 on: September 21, 2014, 06:25:12 AM

Are crops on Scarecrow Plots not protected? I had some trees planted overnight that are now gone.

Edit: Another question: is there a reliable way to get Moonlight Archeum Dust? Salvaging seems to have a chance to yield the motes but gave me more Starlight and Sunlight than Moon; I've also found a few in coin purses but not enough to make a set of armor.
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Reply #736 on: September 21, 2014, 07:07:53 AM

I'm screwing around on Ezi as Viin in case anyone else is on that server.

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Reply #737 on: September 21, 2014, 07:28:50 AM

I ended up on Lucius as Aryx.

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Reply #738 on: September 21, 2014, 08:19:51 AM

Or find someone's secret tree farm and take them.  Uproot is love.  Uproot is all.  Uproot is forever. All hail glorious Uproot.Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
Then a month down the road stand there wondering where did everyone go.
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Reply #739 on: September 21, 2014, 08:23:49 AM

Are crops on Scarecrow Plots not protected? I had some trees planted overnight that are now gone.
They should be, but if I understand it right much like a house the scarecrow has to be finished first (with the wood you get for that quest) in order to protect the area. Have seen quite a few plots where people planted their stuff in what was effectively still unclaimed land because the structure was merely started.
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Reply #740 on: September 21, 2014, 08:31:52 AM

Hmm I might not have done that, thanks.

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Reply #741 on: September 21, 2014, 09:14:49 AM

I'm somewhat baffled as to why Trion is handling the launch queues so badly. It's not like AA hasn't already been released years ago (and even twice at that) and Trion's also launched other mmos before. It's almost like they forgot all about how to launch games and are now scrambling in panic which is seen as daily server restarts and people being dc'd from the game (right now).  swamp poop
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Reply #742 on: September 21, 2014, 11:05:13 AM

I agree with you. Where would humanity be if we didn't learn from our mistakes? I don't work there, but I refuse to believe this is the best they could do.

That said, this page has been linked everywhere in the last 24 hours and if nothing else I think it's funny (it shows the history of queues in ten years of MMORPGs).

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Reply #743 on: September 21, 2014, 12:06:19 PM

In order to complete the crafting quest, it looks like I have to put down my own farm. Can I pick it up later and move it to a place I actually want a house? Or, should I save these 25 tax certs to use to put my house down?

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Reply #744 on: September 21, 2014, 12:40:32 PM

I agree with you. Where would humanity be if we didn't learn from our mistakes? I don't work there, but I refuse to believe this is the best they could do.

That said, this page has been linked everywhere in the last 24 hours and if nothing else I think it's funny (it shows the history of queues in ten years of MMORPGs).
Ahahahah of course the guy's WoW queue screenie is a queue on fucking Silvermoon. Can't wait to get in there to RP my power-bottom Blood Elf!

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Reply #745 on: September 21, 2014, 01:07:27 PM

Or find someone's secret tree farm and take them.  Uproot is love.  Uproot is all.  Uproot is forever. All hail glorious Uproot.Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
Then a month down the road stand there wondering where did everyone go.


People will always try and find a spot for their secret farms.  Its an expected risk that someone will jack your crops in an unprotected space.
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Reply #746 on: September 21, 2014, 01:25:52 PM

In order to complete the crafting quest, it looks like I have to put down my own farm. Can I pick it up later and move it to a place I actually want a house? Or, should I save these 25 tax certs to use to put my house down?

I'm guessing you are referring to the small farm you get given at an early stage in the crafting quests.

Yes, if you place it then you can pick it up later and re-place it anywhere you like. You will lose the material used to make the farm (a small amount of wood). But if I recall correctly, the NPC questgiver gave you the wood in the first place, so that's probably not a big deal.

Bear in mind that what you get at the end of all the trade quests is a plan for a *large* farm, and that's going to be the farm you use most, assuming you want to farm at all. So you probably only need to start worrying about locations once you get the large farm plan and are ready to place that. You might not even use the small farm once you get the large one.
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Reply #747 on: September 21, 2014, 01:35:52 PM

Oh damn, I guess that means I ought to finish those. I stopped when it wanted me to make the local specialty thing.

Also where do I get a glider? I've heard people mention a quest but I seem to have missed it; I'm 22 and have done all the story quests as appropriate.

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Reply #748 on: September 21, 2014, 01:56:50 PM

The Specialty thingie is a black hole of hours and hours of crafting and walking around, with a final step that will require lots of luck, swearing and dying, having to wait about a real time day to try again. In short, to become a farmer requires real dedication. Do not even do the Arcum Iris trade run quest until you've read what the whole thing is about on some webpage, like this: 1 and 2.

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Reply #749 on: September 21, 2014, 02:03:22 PM

Wow, that looks awful. Might wait until 50. Is 50 the cap?

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Reply #750 on: September 21, 2014, 02:35:45 PM

Tbh it looks worse than it is. Did the first run at ~l.15 without any guides; the entire ride/walk took maybe 10 mins, for the most part you just wait for the Progress Quest timers on your crops tick down while you're free to do the regular quests and stuff.

Also, if you happen to carry your pack while someone else carrying their pack is walking nearby, both of you get a little speed up buff. So it might be worth to stick together with someone on the way.
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Reply #751 on: September 21, 2014, 02:40:08 PM

The third step is really long. About an hour walk? And the fourth is quite epic unless you do it om a ship with lots of veterans who know what they are doing and you happen to not meet enemy players. And, you can still lose everything and have to do it again. Anyway, it's part of the game and I hope he'll do it. I just wanted to make clear that it's more complicated than what we are used to from quess you pick up at level 10 in other games.
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Reply #752 on: September 21, 2014, 03:06:53 PM

I did my first 2 trade quests and opened up my donkey which is awesome, but really it wasn't that bad.  I just took the carriages and bought everything off the auction house and noticed tons of other cool people on the road doing the same thing.  Once you get your donkey, its not that important since it can walk fast, but I recommend having a real understanding of the carriage system because it will save you a lot of time.  Also, got my Ultimate Glider last night and I can't wait to get back from the queue and try it out.  It has fire bombs and an arrow barrage as well as another move that boosts you higher into the air for more distance.  Very fun. 
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Reply #753 on: September 21, 2014, 03:23:30 PM

New North American server opened today. No idea about the queues.

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Reply #754 on: September 21, 2014, 03:27:41 PM

I hadn't really heard any dungeons mentioned but I did Palace Cellar several times last night and it was very fun.  It was a smallish dungeon with 3 semi challenging bosses and some trash.  It only works with 3 people but the daily for it offers a good reward for either you, or a high lvl person who wants to help you as a mentor.  I saw a legendary drop there, which was kind of cool, but I didn't win it.  One thing you should know is that even though 3 people can do the dungeon, if 2 lower levels and 1 mentor go, and the mentor opens the mentor chest, only 1 of the two other players can get their mentor item for the daily.  Kind of annoying.
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Reply #755 on: September 21, 2014, 03:42:15 PM

New North American server opened today. No idea about the queues.

I just installed and the new server queue was at 650. 
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Reply #756 on: September 21, 2014, 04:43:24 PM

I have a feeling the queues will drastically drop when people will start getting over level 30 and the merciless bloodshed will begin. As I said multiple times, Archeage did a good job hiding its PvP nature to the masses. That's when the mass quits will begin.

Not really saying the game will tank. But part of this success is based on the fact that the things that the majority of the people will not be able to stomach aren't apparent at all during your first week of playing.

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Reply #757 on: September 21, 2014, 05:10:13 PM

Are the level 30+ zones all FFA PVP?

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Reply #758 on: September 21, 2014, 05:47:20 PM

I  believe so, yes. However, you can grind a ton of levels just from gathering and crafting (if you have the labor), so you don't have to be exposed all the time.

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Reply #759 on: September 21, 2014, 06:55:15 PM

The level 30+ zones are open pvp, until a certain point of conflict and then they go into war, and after war some of them can gain peace for anywhere between one to three hours where no pvp can happen in them. So periodically, it is possible to quest in those zones without risk of pvp.

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Reply #760 on: September 21, 2014, 07:09:58 PM

No queue on Ezi with patron status.

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Reply #761 on: September 21, 2014, 07:38:28 PM

Is it faction based or full FFA?

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Reply #762 on: September 21, 2014, 07:39:59 PM

I think its faction but there may be some FFA areas.
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Reply #763 on: September 21, 2014, 08:06:33 PM

Is it faction based or full FFA?

Both.  There are 2 factions that are at war with each other but you can also kill players in your own faction.  If you kill enough of your own faction and gain enough infamy (you can gain infamy from stealing other people's crops, too) you become a pirate and are kos to everyone.  This mean you can't enter npc cities without the guards attacking you, and the only npc area you can do business with is in the pirate island up in the northwest of the map.
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Reply #764 on: September 21, 2014, 08:19:06 PM

Also where do I get a glider? I've heard people mention a quest but I seem to have missed it; I'm 22 and have done all the story quests as appropriate.

One of the quests at the mines that the story line takes you to. Have to go up the mountain to complete a quest.

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Reply #765 on: September 21, 2014, 11:38:31 PM

Are the level 30+ zones all FFA PVP?

So, in short, yes. After level 30 all zones are pretty much some degree of FFA PVP.

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Reply #766 on: September 22, 2014, 01:34:13 AM

Are the level 30+ zones all FFA PVP?

So, in short, yes. After level 30 all zones are pretty much some degree of FFA PVP.

Sort of.  There are periods of peace and war.  When at peace theres no pvp, when at war there is, meaning players of both factions can kill you.  Looking at the map will tell you which areas are in which state and for how long.
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Reply #767 on: September 22, 2014, 02:47:26 AM

Sort of.  There are periods of peace and war.  When at peace theres no pvp, when at war there is, meaning players of both factions can kill you.  Looking at the map will tell you which areas are in which state and for how long.

On top of Peace and War time there's Danger time, which is still FFA PVP and it's the most common time. Not trying to scare anybody here, just making sure facts are known.

Ginaz, I might be wrong but I am afraid I am not. "Peace time" is very short (couple of hours?) and it happens after a region has gone to war which is the superFFA mode. But before that, there's an escalation system in place which does NOT protect you from anybody, friend or foe. It is true that players from your faction would commit a crime if they killed you in a region that is in Danger state, but this has never stopped anybody and considering all it takes for them to attack you is to CTRL+F and enter Bloodlust mode (same faction murder mode), you are really never safe.

My understanding is that after level 30 you will quest and play in areas that range from "FFA PVP where some players would be eventually punished if they killed you (but they still will especially if you have a trade pack)" to "FFA PVP where killing you rewards them". The tiny 2 hours windows of peace aren't really something you can rely on on plan around, especially because you can't pick what area to be in if you are leveling since the quests and mobs you need pick the area for you.

Again, from what I gathered this game didn't make the expected money around the world because it is a full PvP game disguised as something else. The Farmville and WoW parts attracted many and kept it alive and well, but true success has been missed due to its unforgiving PvP which led to the usual mass ragequits. PvP areas work a lot like EVE, with different degree of security levels, but as in EVE you are not really safe anywhere except the very first few zones where you can at least play farmer/miner/auction house/decorator without having to worry.

Anyway, the Justice System and the jail stuff are really cool and they help a bit. But that doesn't change that pirates and gankers don't play fair and as long as they kill you and don't get killed they don't have to face the court.

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Reply #768 on: September 22, 2014, 05:19:23 AM

What are the PVP death penalties? Do you drop loot, aside from trade packs?

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Reply #769 on: September 22, 2014, 06:01:34 AM

Aside from the infamous trade pack, as far as I know you only lose honor points (which is a currency used to buy PvP gear). That is all. You also get a debuff but it only affects you if you are fighting a world boss, so it's quite irrelevant here.

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