Arche Age

[Venkman]

Ah cool. I'll give it a shot on the 4th when it goes open beta. Not sure how much I'll get into crafting or housing. I always think I'll want to but then end up back right into my comfort zone of questing and PvE.

Strong enough PvE here? Or is it mostly focused on PvP?

[LC]

Ah cool. I'll give it a shot on the 4th when it goes open beta. Not sure how much I'll get into crafting or housing. I always think I'll want to but then end up back right into my comfort zone of questing and PvE.

Strong enough PvE here? Or is it mostly focused on PvP?

I don't do much PvE, but they seem to have several dungeons scattered about. There is also a hard mode for some dungeons. They also have a large number of world bosses.

If anyone finds themselves homeless or needing help on Aranzeb (East Side) feel free to whisper me. I'll be on as either Eeta, Bisky, Menchi usually.

[palmer_eldritch]

A little-known gameplay thing: if you have the right net, you can capture many of the world bosses instead of killing them. Then you can use them as battle pets instead of the wolves and foxes everyone else will have.

[Lantyssa]

Creature Handler fantasy edition, here I come!

[HaemishM]

Strong enough PvE here? Or is it mostly focused on PvP?

The PVE isn't anything you haven't seen elsewhere, but it is certainly competently done. I think after a certain level, it's mostly PVP focused. My biggest problem with it besides the idiotic labor point dickpunch is that I'm massively burned out on MMOG Diku PVE even when it's well done.

[LC]

I think my favorite pets/mounts so far are the bear mounts you get through breeding. The polar bear's sprint ability is hilarious. You can see it at the end of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcW1Z9iRKiA

[Trippy]

Why does that spin move not kill the rider?

Edit: NM I see now the rider moves off to the side.

[Threash]

That elf thing at the end has god damn gigantic thumbs.

[Trippy]

And an uncanny valley face.

[Falconeer]

Open Beta starts today. 10am PDT.

[Mrbloodworth]

The PVE isn't anything you haven't seen elsewhere, but it is certainly competently done.

What? This game has the most vapid, and pointless questing I have ever seen in a MMO. There is literally no connections to NPC_Enginear#45 and NPC_Enginear#46, there is zero reason to care about any quest or giver in this game, you spend literally 5 seconds with what may as well be a faceless NPC. None of them have a drop of character in them, and the writing is that of a child's book and standard tropes. Not only that, but about 90% of the "quests" have the quest objective 5 feet away. I Don't think I have ever seen such a tight, pointless collection of menial tasks that take less than 4 footsteps in the on rails direction of travel in my life. There is a quest that has you pick up SHIT 2 feet from the quest giver. Oh fucking joy of joys! There are quests, in 2014, that require you to stand with 20 others in line to kill an objective NPC that is right next to the fucking quest giver. I had more fun dicking around in mirage island with friends than I did in the entirety of my leveling to 15. This game DEFINES pointless busywork questing. Most of this shit was phoned in. Boats are impressive ( Multi-grids FTW ), housing is some form of industrial torture process where chickens stand in grids and plea for help across the countryside. What may be fun in this game, is locked behind possibly one of the most skinner box vapid questing experience have ever seen.

Playing with my lion cub was the highlight of the game, and that was a montage.

[Mrbloodworth]

But if you want to know the horrible truth, it's that the thing to do is to level up to 50 and get stuck into the sandbox side of things after that. Which is indeed a major flaw.

I don't think I can do it. I got my character to level 11 and was logged in Sunday night while waiting for the f13 draft to begin. I couldn't muster the energy to continue doing quests. Just the thought of clicking on more dudes with ! over their heads sapped my will to give a fuck. The game is pretty. The combat isn't bad. The game throws a shitton of things at you that don't make any sense unless you slow down and try to grok them (and I daresay a lot of it is utterly unnecessary for the level I'm at). PvE content like this in MMO's just kills me these days. I don't have any desire to do it for the 30+ hours it'll take to get to the parts I might actually be interested in.

Amen.

[Ginaz]

The PVE isn't anything you haven't seen elsewhere, but it is certainly competently done.

What? This game has the most vapid, and pointless questing I have ever seen in a MMO. There is literally no connections to NPC_Enginear#45 and NPC_Enginear#46, there is zero reason to care about any quest or giver in this game, you spend literally 5 seconds with what may as well be a faceless NPC. None of them have a drop of character in them, and the writing is that of a child's book and standard tropes. Not only that, but about 90% of the "quests" have the quest objective 5 feet away. I Don't think I have ever seen such a tight, pointless collection of menial tasks that take less than 4 footsteps in the on rails direction of travel in my life. There is a quest that has you pick up SHIT 2 feet from the quest giver. Oh fucking joy of joys! There are quests, in 2014, that require you to stand with 20 others in line to kill an objective NPC that is right next to the fucking quest giver. I had more fun dicking around in mirage island with friends than I did in the entirety of my leveling to 15. This game DEFINES pointless busywork questing. Most of this shit was phoned in. Boats are impressive ( Multi-grids FTW ), housing is some form of industrial torture process where chickens stand in grids and plea for help across the countryside. What may be fun in this game, is locked behind possibly one of the most skinner box vapid questing experience have ever seen.

Playing with my lion cub was the highlight of the game, and that was a montage.

TLDR version: Needs moar spaceships!

[HaemishM]

The PVE isn't anything you haven't seen elsewhere, but it is certainly competently done.

Sperginess

I said competent in that there didn't seem to be bugs, the combat mechanics were decent and it didn't seem any worse/grindy than any of the other MMOG's that have almost exactly the same type of PVE content (ESO, Wildstar, WoW, etc.). The "isn't anything you haven't seen elsewhere" means it's stuff we've all seen before, there are no attempts to put any new spins on PVE (public quests, heavy lore). It's just boring.

[Mrbloodworth]

I Don't think this answers the root question, but it does seem like there is some interesting questing to be had.

Oh how wrong I was.

[Mrbloodworth]

The PVE isn't anything you haven't seen elsewhere, but it is certainly competently done.

Sperginess

I said competent in that there didn't seem to be bugs, the combat mechanics were decent and it didn't seem any worse/grindy than any of the other MMOG's that have almost exactly the same type of PVE content (ESO, Wildstar, WoW, etc.). The "isn't anything you haven't seen elsewhere" means it's stuff we've all seen before, there are no attempts to put any new spins on PVE (public quests, heavy lore). It's just boring.

The Technical execution is there. You are right. I Disagree about the MMOG's that have almost exactly the same type of PVE content, this shit. This shit right here, is shit.

[WayAbvPar]

If you are playing AA for the PvE content you are in the wrong game. Farmville or PvP or both, but PvE is just XP and cash pellets.

[HaemishM]

If you are playing AA for the PvE content you are in the wrong game. Farmville or PvP or both, but PvE is just XP and cash pellets.

Yeah, that was my problem with it, because that PVE gated me away from the PVP. And I just don't have the patience to wait that long for the game I want to play.

[WayAbvPar]

If you are playing AA for the PvE content you are in the wrong game. Farmville or PvP or both, but PvE is just XP and cash pellets.

Yeah, that was my problem with it, because that PVE gated me away from the PVP. And I just don't have the patience to wait that long for the game I want to play.

It gets a little tedious, but I like being able to level through gathering/crafting too. Nice break from grinding quests.

[Mrbloodworth]

If you are playing AA for the PvE content you are in the wrong game. Farmville or PvP or both, but PvE is just XP and cash pellets.

There seems to be no choice, And I personally refuse to go though it to get to something I may enjoy. I do not hate myself enough to do that. I Had too keep asking myself, if this is the quality of quests in this game, why did they even add it. Questing is also apparently how you get the tokens for ships and shit. Fuck you AA.

This shit is refined pointless questing. Say what you want about Mankrik's Wife, but at-least you had to find the bitch, she wasn't right next to an apparently blind NPC THAT NEEDS THIS THING OR DOOOM.

[Malakili]

If you are playing AA for the PvE content you are in the wrong game. Farmville or PvP or both, but PvE is just XP and cash pellets.

There seems to be no choice, And I personally refuse to go though it to get to something I may enjoy. I do not hate myself enough to do that. I Had too keep asking myself, if this is the quality of quests in this game, why did they even add it. Questing is also apparently how you get the tokens for ships and shit. Fuck you AA.

This shit is refined pointless questing.

Lame.  I have some people trying to get me to try this and if this is the reality, then there's a low chance I give enough fucks to even download it.

[Mrbloodworth]

Your friends are liars, or hate themselves.

[Xanthippe]

How's the crafting/gathering system?

[Mrbloodworth]

Someone should call PETA.



I have not seen a single player "town" or homestead that looked like anything other than industrial mass farming in Texas. There is zero motivation to do anything but grind that shit. Livestock in Grids for miles.

[Threash]

If you are playing AA for the PvE content you are in the wrong game. Farmville or PvP or both, but PvE is just XP and cash pellets.

Are they handing away max level characters when you buy the game? no? then this is bullshit.

[Mrbloodworth]

If you are playing AA for the PvE content you are in the wrong game. Farmville or PvP or both, but PvE is just XP and cash pellets.

Are they handing away max level characters when you buy the game? no? then this is bullshit.

Waite. You have to get to 50 before this ends? /uninstall

[Miasma]

How's the crafting/gathering system?

It is fairly elaborate and interesting but you have to go through the PvE to get there.  Some of the crafting is also contingent on PvP actions where you can lose all your work but this can be outsourced.  You have to specialize, you won't be able to craft all things on one character (or even one account if I understand correctly).  You will also have to race to get a good plot, at least initially, who knows how things will be once the dust settles.

I don't like the PvE in this game but it seems like it could be finished with fairly quickly, it does not seem to take long to level.  At some point in the 30s you need to duo to get through it fast though.  I believe that's also when PvP opens up so a buddy would be good regardless.

The music and sound effects are God awful.  Lots of complaints that the open beta client is crashing a lot.

[Threash]

If you are playing AA for the PvE content you are in the wrong game. Farmville or PvP or both, but PvE is just XP and cash pellets.

Are they handing away max level characters when you buy the game? no? then this is bullshit.

Waite. You have to get to 50 before this ends? /uninstall

I have no idea, i logged in during one of the beta tests saw a ! over a guy, talked to him for the hell of it and he gave me a quest to walk down a straight road and talk to another ! guy.  That is as far as my interest in the game went.

[palmer_eldritch]

If you are playing AA for the PvE content you are in the wrong game. Farmville or PvP or both, but PvE is just XP and cash pellets.

There seems to be no choice, And I personally refuse to go though it to get to something I may enjoy. I do not hate myself enough to do that. I Had too keep asking myself, if this is the quality of quests in this game, why did they even add it. Questing is also apparently how you get the tokens for ships and shit. Fuck you AA.

You get those tokens from trading mainly. They just give you some during the quests to get you started out.

You can also buy house and ship plans from other players, if you don't fancy collecting the tokens yourself.

[palmer_eldritch]

How's the crafting/gathering system?

I talk a little about the farming in a film here, if you can cope with listening to me speak:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05621xpAds#t=1125

The URL should take you to the correct time in the video, but it's 18 mins 45 seconds in if there's a problem.

[Venkman]

Ok I gotta be completely honest, and normally I don't do direct shoutouts. But NrBloodworth has probably saved me a lot of time. I don't recall ever seeing you so pissed off about a game. About other people sure, but never about a game. That alone is enough to save me the download.

Back to Divinity then 

[Lantyssa]

If Bloodworth hates it this game is going to be a sleeper hit!

[angry.bob]

Okay, I installed this when I went to bed last night and played it about an hour this morning. It was okay, combat was decent fun. However: I mined two iron nodes in the tutorial area which completely drained my labor points. It regenerated up to 5, but not any farther. I spent the rest of the hour waiting to regen labor points to open shitty level one loot bags 5 at a time. Since I could kill 10-15 things in the time it took to get back 5 labor points I have a billion unopened loot bags. I don't see this mechanic getting any better. Labor Points are the cancer that will kill this game.

[Ginaz]

Okay, I installed this when I went to bed last night and played it about an hour this morning. It was okay, combat was decent fun. However: I mined two iron nodes in the tutorial area which completely drained my labor points. It regenerated up to 5, but not any farther. I spent the rest of the hour waiting to regen labor points to open shitty level one loot bags 5 at a time. Since I could kill 10-15 things in the time it took to get back 5 labor points I have a billion unopened loot bags. I don't see this mechanic getting any better. Labor Points are the cancer that will kill this game.

That's weird because as far as I know f2p players get 1000 labour points.  Theres no way 2 iron nodes cost 500 LP each unless they've changed it since closed beta/alpha.

[WayAbvPar]

If Bloodworth hates it this game is going to be a sleeper hit!