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jakonovski
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Reply #280 on: August 07, 2010, 04:17:45 AM

I had a HoN flashback there for a while.
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Reply #281 on: August 07, 2010, 05:03:45 AM

Feel better.

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Reply #282 on: August 07, 2010, 11:26:50 AM

Yeah, I may not be hitting you up for some co-op any time soon then Ironwood, I'm a totally clueless newb. I jumped into a random co-op earlier and me and my complete stranger partner got roflstomped by 2 medium AI in under 10 minutes  why so serious?

I'll look at challenges and stuff when I finish the campaign.

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Reply #283 on: August 07, 2010, 11:29:09 AM

As much as I bitched about this game during beta, 2 of my real life friends put the screws to me and convinced me to buy it why so serious?
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Reply #284 on: August 07, 2010, 12:06:39 PM

You're weak Malakili. Though I'm going to be buying SC2 as soon as my masters finishes and one of my old friends gets back to the UK  awesome, for real
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Reply #285 on: August 07, 2010, 07:42:35 PM

Eh, I ended up getting against my better judgment.

Good thing it's fun and playable.

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Reply #286 on: August 07, 2010, 09:07:16 PM

The game is crashing even more on me now. Anytime I play a mission that's a defense thing, the goes CTD on me. WTF!  swamp poop

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Reply #287 on: August 07, 2010, 10:58:26 PM

Only weird crashing problem I have is that I can only play it once without having to reboot. If I play, quit the game, then try to play it again it locks up. If I reboot first, it's fine.

On another note, SC2 is the game that's convinced me to use RealID. Being able to chat with my WoW guildies while I'm in SC and they're in Dalaran is very cool.

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Reply #288 on: August 07, 2010, 11:04:57 PM

Been doing some giant FFA AI things and I finally found something that makes my computer slow to a crawl, even on low graphics. Giant zerg flying attacks against my wall of missile towers. I think the corruptors might be the culprit, but I'm not sure.

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Reply #289 on: August 08, 2010, 08:13:43 AM

Might be broodlords? There's a critical mass of units which makes my FPS go through the floor. Carriers are the main culprit, but brood lords could be the same.

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Reply #290 on: August 08, 2010, 12:20:44 PM

I figured out part of the issue. In the last month Comcast made a switch away from McAfee to Norton as their free AV provider. That thing is a bloated awful POS that gave my computer AIDS. Now, I'm running a trial version of something else to see if I can't get away from the overload it was putting on my PC.

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Reply #291 on: August 08, 2010, 01:09:48 PM

Three words: Microsoft Security Essentials
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Reply #292 on: August 08, 2010, 02:37:21 PM

Just had an epic 40 minute TvZ that was even for most of the game.  I went ling/roach/infestor/muta, he went MMM with tanks and some banshees/vikings thrown in for good measure. Losing this one hurt. I thought I played pretty well tbh, but I just couldn't pull through in the end.  I really should have taken my high ground expo, I don't know why it never crossed my mind.  Damn, I'm fucking exhausted after this one.

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/53207-1v1-terran-zerg-kulas-ravine
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Reply #293 on: August 08, 2010, 02:38:22 PM

Three words: Microsoft Security Essentials


Yes. So nice for home PCs.

As for SC2: I tried to get the 8 player FFA vs insane achievement.

I got lol cloaked banshee rushed 5 minutes in <3
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Reply #294 on: August 08, 2010, 02:58:43 PM

I've started to practice for online play, three silver challenges so far and a few AI skirmishes on medium and faster. The damn computer kicked my ass several times until I decided to start a game by building a bunker in its base. After that it folded nicely. You definitely need to come up with a plan beforehand or you're toast.

As a random question, what can I use as Terran to reliably kill Roaches?
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Reply #295 on: August 08, 2010, 03:08:03 PM

Marauders are the simplest counter to roaches, with their double damaged against armored units and superior range.   They'll rip them up quite nicely.  Otherwise, tanks and air units.
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Reply #296 on: August 08, 2010, 03:13:02 PM

Just had an epic 40 minute TvZ that was even for most of the game.  I went ling/roach/infestor/muta, he went MMM with tanks and some banshees/vikings thrown in for good measure. Losing this one hurt. I thought I played pretty well tbh, but I just couldn't pull through in the end.  I really should have taken my high ground expo, I don't know why it never crossed my mind.  Damn, I'm fucking exhausted after this one.

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/53207-1v1-terran-zerg-kulas-ravine

You played really well.  There were only a couple of mistakes that I could spot and the Macro could be polished up but the real reason you lost is he had you economically almost the entire game.  On a level playing field of production and cost, you'd have curb stomped him.

Alas, not having the cash or the larvae seemed to hurt you at times.

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Reply #297 on: August 08, 2010, 03:27:07 PM

Three words: Microsoft Security Essentials


Yes. So nice for home PCs.

As for SC2: I tried to get the 8 player FFA vs insane achievement.

I got lol cloaked banshee rushed 5 minutes in <3
There is a good strategy for that at the end of the multiplayer faq on gamefaqs.  It let me get it and I suck.  Took me a long time because one of my islands got destroyed, I thought I built plenty of cannons but was very wrong.

That mission caused some slowdown on my machine, I would recommend doing it on low settings.  As mentioned it seemed like the ai using massive air crushes the cpu.  I knew when it was loading overlords up with troops because my machine would begin crawling.
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Reply #298 on: August 08, 2010, 03:45:54 PM

Just had an epic 40 minute TvZ that was even for most of the game.  I went ling/roach/infestor/muta, he went MMM with tanks and some banshees/vikings thrown in for good measure. Losing this one hurt. I thought I played pretty well tbh, but I just couldn't pull through in the end.  I really should have taken my high ground expo, I don't know why it never crossed my mind.  Damn, I'm fucking exhausted after this one.

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/53207-1v1-terran-zerg-kulas-ravine

You played really well.  There were only a couple of mistakes that I could spot and the Macro could be polished up but the real reason you lost is he had you economically almost the entire game.  On a level playing field of production and cost, you'd have curb stomped him.

Alas, not having the cash or the larvae seemed to hurt you at times.


Thanks for the response!  I really need to make more drones...by far my biggest problem and it constantly screws me over.  I just get too into micro and survival and forget to keep a steadily rising drone count sometimes which gets me behind.
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Reply #299 on: August 08, 2010, 04:47:21 PM

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Reply #300 on: August 08, 2010, 04:58:49 PM

As a random question, what can I use as Terran to reliably kill Roaches?

Marauders and Tanks. Don't underestimate how good tanks are unsieged either. Siege is good, but don't feel that it's the only way tanks are viable.

On an unrelated note, income wars is hilariously dumb, and rather addictive. It's in the custom maps (just hit Join Game on the custom game tab on the multiplayer window). PS, it may melt your PC due to there being about 1000 units on screen.

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Reply #301 on: August 08, 2010, 05:32:15 PM

Just had an epic 40 minute TvZ that was even for most of the game.  I went ling/roach/infestor/muta, he went MMM with tanks and some banshees/vikings thrown in for good measure. Losing this one hurt. I thought I played pretty well tbh, but I just couldn't pull through in the end.  I really should have taken my high ground expo, I don't know why it never crossed my mind.  Damn, I'm fucking exhausted after this one.

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/53207-1v1-terran-zerg-kulas-ravine

You played really well.  There were only a couple of mistakes that I could spot and the Macro could be polished up but the real reason you lost is he had you economically almost the entire game.  On a level playing field of production and cost, you'd have curb stomped him.

Alas, not having the cash or the larvae seemed to hurt you at times.


Thanks for the response!  I really need to make more drones...by far my biggest problem and it constantly screws me over.  I just get too into micro and survival and forget to keep a steadily rising drone count sometimes which gets me behind.

You don't need to make more drones. The problem is a little more complicated than that.

Each mineral patch maxes out rate of collection with 3 workers. On top of that, the third worker is really inefficient. The optimal number of workers per patch is something like 2.25. You had something like 30 workers on 8 patches :( That's something like 12 more than you needed.
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Reply #302 on: August 08, 2010, 08:42:24 PM

Beat all missions on brutal, gold in all the challenges, breezed through 8hr on normal, and what has me unable to perfect the campaign?

The fucking gold lost viking achivement. I can't get 500k. I hate that game so much.
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Reply #303 on: August 09, 2010, 12:44:44 AM

My point was less about the drones and more about the lack of a third hatchery.  It kept your resource and production count lower than the terran, who was pumping it large style.

But seriously, don't worry about it.  Very good play indeed.  If your second Baneling ambush had come off you'd have really FUCKED with his head.

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Reply #304 on: August 09, 2010, 02:10:06 AM

Does anyone know a good source that has actual strategies for SC2? As a complete noob I really need some specific build orders as well as instructions on what to actually do with my units. Until I remembered the bunker rush thingy, I was completely lost with oodles of random units but no idea how or when to use them.
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Reply #305 on: August 09, 2010, 02:34:24 AM

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Main_Page

Although I think practicing and watching vids are usually better than reading about build orders.

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Reply #306 on: August 09, 2010, 04:00:55 AM

Yah, I just wanted something to randomly browse at work. Starcraft is stuck in my head now.

Edit: also how rude of me to forget to say thank you, so thank you!
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Reply #307 on: August 09, 2010, 06:16:52 AM

This game is great fun.  I haven't played an RTS since AOE:2 and I think Blizzard really nailed it. 

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Reply #308 on: August 09, 2010, 10:53:30 AM

Is promotion not working? I'm beating platinum players now and I'm still in silver.

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Reply #309 on: August 09, 2010, 11:01:52 AM

Is promotion not working? I'm beating platinum players now and I'm still in silver.

Its working.  Unfortunately the matchmaking system is so cryptic that its really impossible to know when you'll get bumped up.  When it happened to me, it just randomly happened after one game.
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Reply #310 on: August 09, 2010, 11:11:26 AM

Well, that's good to hear at least.  In the past I've usually been bumped up rather early, but my first handful of games were rather mediocre.   30 games though and still in silver although my last 2 games have been against platinum players (1-1) and I'm beating high gold regularly.

I'm still bad, but I'd rather be in a division with bads of my calibre.

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Reply #311 on: August 09, 2010, 11:46:19 AM

I got promoted on friday or saturday from bronze to gold. I was 23-15 in bronze or something. It didn't come after a win streak either.

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Reply #312 on: August 09, 2010, 12:54:46 PM

FUFUFUFUFFU Plat.  Oh, how I missed losing streaks.

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Reply #313 on: August 09, 2010, 01:04:55 PM


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Reply #314 on: August 09, 2010, 01:33:27 PM


The Nexus placement had me in tears.

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