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Ironwood
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Reply #1715 on: March 27, 2013, 05:30:45 PM

Yeah, but that's not really the point.  I agree entirely that's what it was, but at the time it was what we were fucking dying for.


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Reply #1716 on: January 22, 2014, 01:09:45 AM

So, Heart of the Swarm patch 2.1 is out.  Knowing that people here don't really care about SC2 - why am I bothering to post this?

Because 2.1 makes the Arcade free.  Arcade is the new term for the Use Map Settings/Custom Maps of the Brood War days, to be clear.  You don't need to own SC2 at all to download the client and play them, and I think people are more interested in that than actual SC2 'round these parts.

Here's a terrible video by blizzard hoping that this means someone will make the next DOTA for them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWKDxiIUyp4

But really, there are some cool custom games already available.  I think you can download the client by logging into the battle.net website.
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Reply #1717 on: January 22, 2014, 04:05:04 PM

And I just uninstalled it too. Are there any actually decent maps to play?

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Reply #1718 on: January 22, 2014, 04:13:03 PM

Nah.

and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #1719 on: January 22, 2014, 04:15:13 PM

Marine Arena is fun.  Star Strikers is fun, but some people are so good it's silly.  Nexus Wars and Squadron Tower Defense are both fun, but the games last longer than I'd like.  There is also a surprisingly good DOTA clone called Aeon of Strife.



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Reply #1720 on: January 22, 2014, 04:15:54 PM

If you go back far enough, technically Dota is a clone of THAT from sc1  why so serious?

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Reply #1721 on: January 22, 2014, 04:37:35 PM

I don't play ladder sc2 anymore because its the anti-thesis of fun, but apparently the mod 'starbow' is played via arcade and mixes units/abilities/mechanics from sc1 and sc2, units do less damage and its a great time for people wanting a more sc1 like game flow with the UI improvements of sc2.

i doubt that sentence made sense, but like malakili said, i also doubt many people give two tosses about starcraft in here.

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Reply #1722 on: January 22, 2014, 04:54:00 PM

How is that starship/faux-naval combat one going? Is it still around? I remember the premise being decent, even if the execution was a bit rough.

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Reply #1723 on: January 22, 2014, 06:41:12 PM

I'm a big SC2 fan, but I rarely play ladder because it really is so fucking stressful.  In fact, I haven't played much at all recently, so thanks for the heads up.  I'm going to check some of these things out.

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Reply #1724 on: November 12, 2017, 11:04:55 AM

So, yeah.  Been awhile since anyone has talked about SC2 but I was able to claim Heart of the Swarm for free just recently.  I think it's because I had bought Wings of Liberty ages ago and now they're giving out the second part for free if you own the first part.  I doubt I'll ever play again but it's still nice to get.

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Reply #1725 on: November 12, 2017, 12:48:00 PM

SC2 will also go free to play on Nov 14. They say this is an their effort to get increased interest, but I'm betting it's a long term strategy focused on Artificial Intelligence.

Google DeepMind and Blizzard made a deal last year to open the API for SC2, allowing programmers to control units directly and run games at faster than real time for training. This API was recently released along with a lightweight Linux interface that doesn't need the base game to train. The F2P release will increase accessibility further, allowing anyone to develop with no cost of entry on any platform.

Machine Learning is historically not well-suited to learning complex sequential strategies with multiple competing objectives, as evidenced by the sad state of AI for games like Civ. SC2 is a difficult problem that will open up a whole new world of AI if Google (or anyone else, although Google has a disproportionately huge research presence) is successful. The recent advances in machine learning for Atari games and Go are impressive, but rely on perfect information about the state of the game and don't have an adversary dynamically changing the world while you make a decision.

I predict SC2 AI competitions (and human/AI collaborations) will become a big deal in a year or two.



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Reply #1726 on: November 13, 2017, 02:52:25 AM

Just the base game I assume?  I would love to be able to get all the expantions I havent shelled out for for free if they throw the entire thing under the F2P bus.

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Reply #1727 on: November 13, 2017, 07:12:33 PM

Base game with Terran campaign only, I believe.
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Reply #1728 on: November 13, 2017, 08:16:48 PM

Base game and HotS will be included with F2P. If you bought both, they're giving you free portraits and in-game fluff.

The Protoss campaign will still have to be bought.

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Reply #1729 on: November 14, 2017, 02:07:39 AM

So you are saying Zerg rushes will ultimately lead to Skynet? Seems about right.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #1730 on: November 14, 2017, 04:36:39 AM

Tried to play this again last night ;  I'm truly not worried about Skynet coming out of this game.

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Reply #1731 on: November 14, 2017, 10:58:44 PM

No one should be worried. The "deep learning" hype cycle is cashing in on problems we have been chipping at for decades. SC2 A.I. will not be all entirely useful for the complex shitshow that is the real world, but it's a small step in that direction.
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