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Reply #2275 on: December 14, 2016, 10:35:31 AM

I liked the ending of this half of the season. Lays out expectations for some serious violence in the fall. I assume the core go guerilla. It seems the only tactic that makes sense.

I assume they are going to join forces with the Hilltop and the Kingdom and maybe the crazy bitches for a big fight.

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Reply #2276 on: December 14, 2016, 11:55:26 AM

About the only good thing in this episode was Rick's look when Negan told him what was going on while he was out risking his life collecting things.

The rest was just boring and shock death writing which just isn't shocking any more.

The last 3 minutes was cringeworthy.

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Reply #2277 on: December 14, 2016, 03:56:46 PM

Too much misery. Perhaps they had to end the run of Rick's group steamrolling over everyone else, but it went so far the other way that it's just unpleasant.
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Reply #2278 on: December 15, 2016, 12:21:48 AM

They haven't ended that at all.

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Reply #2279 on: December 15, 2016, 04:20:49 AM

The past half season has not seen Rick's group steamrolling over other people, has it? Two of them had their brains bashed in, Daryl was locked in solitary, they handed over all their guns etc.. ??
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Reply #2280 on: December 15, 2016, 04:27:17 AM

The comics tell us what's coming. Maybe a surprise with daryl or carol, but the bare bones is there. No pun intended.

I'm of the view that once the saviour war is over the show should end. Maybe that's just me.

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Reply #2281 on: February 13, 2017, 02:20:20 PM

No ?  Y'all really done ?

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Reply #2282 on: February 13, 2017, 02:25:33 PM

Yeah, I stopped watching after a couple of episodes of the last season. Lost all interest in it, no longer cared at all about any of the characters or the story (or lack of).

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Reply #2283 on: February 13, 2017, 03:15:17 PM

Glenn died and the ratings cried.  I didn't even see more than 1-2 people excited about it on Facebook.

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Reply #2284 on: February 13, 2017, 03:27:50 PM

I haven't watched since the episode before the cliffhanger "who is going to get beat to death episode". I thought this story arc wasn't particularly good in the comics and it's even worse here. Maybe I'll come back when they get past it, but probably not.
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Reply #2285 on: February 13, 2017, 06:03:13 PM

I watched.  It's more of the same: talk for 30 minutes, 5-10 minutes of zombie "action" followed by another 10-20 minutes of talking with a "surprise" cliffhanger at the end.  It's really not that horrible compared to the other dreck on TV, but it's not must-tune-in TV.  It's the kind of thing I wish was already released so I could just marathon it in a weekend without annoying commercials.
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Reply #2286 on: December 11, 2017, 09:05:56 AM

Midseason finale was last night. The war still drags on. The idiots on Team Rick screw up the plan and now everyone is scrambling. The traitor is revealed. And a *shocking* reveal at the end of the episode. (*SPOILER* it's not really that shocking*SPOILER*)

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Reply #2287 on: December 11, 2017, 09:28:10 AM

Midseason finale was last night. The war still drags on. The idiots on Team Rick screw up the plan and now everyone is scrambling. The traitor is revealed. And a *shocking* reveal at the end of the episode. (*SPOILER* it's not really that shocking*SPOILER*)



There was a perfectly good reason for that:  .

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Reply #2288 on: December 12, 2017, 02:19:50 PM


Honestly, this season has felt more like an action movie than the Walking Dead.  They've strayed from their roots.  There was a way to do the current storylines - even with characters as vivid as Negan - and not have it feel like Die Hard: Zombageddon.  They needed this to feel more gritty and less heroic.  Rick's solo mission, rocket launchers... that is not what the story needs.


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Reply #2289 on: December 12, 2017, 02:34:59 PM

That leap forward was obviously a delusion since

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Reply #2290 on: March 17, 2018, 06:05:38 PM

My guess is that the leaps forward represented Carl's hopes for a peaceful future.

Now, Negan seems to think that injuring someone with a bat coated with zombie goo is going to have the same effect as a bite.

It's possible he might just be proved wrong, but leaving that aside - we've seen people covered in zombie goo many times in the past, for one reason or another, and it stands to reason people sometimes got that stuff in their eyes or mouth or whatever... plus people are liable to have the odd cut or scratch on their hands even when they don't live in a post-apocalyptic society ... yet up to now it's seemed clear that no amount of zombie blood and guts has any effect if you don't actually get bitten.

I'm still enjoying this show though.
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Reply #2291 on: June 04, 2018, 11:25:11 AM

Even with Fuel Stabilizer, all the Gas would be bad by now.

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Reply #2292 on: June 04, 2018, 11:30:30 AM

Yes - lots of logic problems. 

Cast changes are going to make this a very different show in the next year.

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Reply #2293 on: June 04, 2018, 02:58:41 PM

This has run its course, they should be filming a damn series finale.

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Reply #2294 on: June 04, 2018, 03:36:34 PM

I agree.

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Reply #2295 on: June 04, 2018, 05:31:42 PM

Bet they are wishing they hadn't killed Carl now, if there was going to be a series without Rick it would have to have been about Carl.

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Reply #2296 on: June 04, 2018, 06:02:31 PM

This has run its course, they should be filming a damn series finale.

Yes, but AMC is going to run this shit into the ground to make every last dollar they can.

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Reply #2297 on: June 05, 2018, 03:29:49 AM

Hell, putting out FtWD was the first step in that.  I didn't survive that one beyond about 5 episodes.  Such garbage.

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Reply #2298 on: June 05, 2018, 08:02:41 AM

Hell, putting out FtWD was the first step in that.  I didn't survive that one beyond about 5 episodes.  Such garbage.


Was that the episode when they skipped right over the collapse of civilization with a bullshit "seven days later" or something? cause that was literally all i wanted to see and I instantly noped the fuck out.

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Reply #2299 on: June 05, 2018, 08:42:17 AM

That was the one. Completely ignored all the interesting aspects of the WD story that had not been told, so they could go do more Walking Dead stories on a boat with less interesting characters.

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Reply #2300 on: June 05, 2018, 10:08:19 AM

Yuuup.

We clearly didn't need a … prequel.

 why so serious?

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Reply #2301 on: June 05, 2018, 10:50:11 AM

They bumped up Fear to be contemporaneous now too and moved Morgan over. It's been the better show of the two this season. Not that that's saying much, but hey.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #2302 on: June 05, 2018, 02:20:40 PM

I thought it was part of the lore that everyone had the Zombie Pathogen dormant in them, so getting more goo on you would go fuck all, you would rise when you died regardless.

Anyway, the problem with the show is that its pretty pointless.

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Reply #2303 on: June 05, 2018, 07:11:09 PM

I thought it was part of the lore that everyone had the Zombie Pathogen dormant in them, so getting more goo on you would go fuck all, you would rise when you died regardless.

Anyway, the problem with the show is that its pretty pointless.

There is more than the pathogen that turns you into a zombie when you die, there is the lethal zombie infection that comes from bites also, which they extended to also include zombie juice. It does make more sense that if a zombie bite always kills you getting zombie blood/guts into your body also would... but it's been like nine fucking years of that not happening.

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Reply #2304 on: June 05, 2018, 07:22:28 PM

In that case, yeah, makes no sense whatsoever. I guess they wanted their actors covered in Gore scenes without immediately losing the actor.

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Reply #2305 on: June 06, 2018, 09:55:18 AM

If the gore gets inside a wound, you get sick and die.  If it just gets on your skin, in your mouth, etc... not so much.  It is unclear if you need a substantial amount of gore to get sick and die, or if the body can fight off a bit.  You might think that is slightly unrealistic, but ... then you're talking about realistic zombies. 

I think the show could continue on and do fresh stories.  There is a lot of interesting places to go.  I just don't have confidence they'll do it. 



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Reply #2306 on: June 06, 2018, 10:32:09 AM

If the gore gets inside a wound, you get sick and die.  If it just gets on your skin, in your mouth, etc... not so much.  It is unclear if you need a substantial amount of gore to get sick and die, or if the body can fight off a bit.  You might think that is slightly unrealistic, but ... then you're talking about realistic zombies. 

No, it absolutely makes perfect sense. The part that doesn't make sense is that this never happened in the entirety of the show until the plot suddenly required it.

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Reply #2307 on: June 06, 2018, 10:44:39 AM

Do you recall a moment when someone with an open wound was covered in gore?  I seem to recall the department store scene in Season 1 featuring a discussion of not getting it in your mouth or eyes...

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Reply #2308 on: June 18, 2018, 03:47:11 PM

Hell, putting out FtWD was the first step in that.  I didn't survive that one beyond about 5 episodes.  Such garbage.


I was done with FtWD when they pied-pipered 3000 zombies from the stadium to the hospital with no escape plan to try to save 2 people in the season 1 finale.

I watched the FtWD season premier with Morgan and none of it made any sense. Haven't wanted to see any more of it since.
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Reply #2309 on: June 19, 2018, 07:10:36 AM

That was my audience arc with Fear almost to a T. The fucking zombie march into the military base was both badly filmed and super-duper stupid from both a story and character perspective.

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