Walking Dead

[Surlyboi]

Glenn and Maggie's engagement pics if they had hooked up in a less fucked world. Pure fluff, but nice pics of them.

[apocrypha]

Nice pics :)

Now, how come nobody on the Walking Dead ever gets infections? I don't mean zombie plague infections, I mean everyday infected wounds. There's frequently violence, multiple cuts, bruises, even gun shot wounds. They spend a lot of time either living rough or in filthy-looking places like the prison, and yet not a one of them has ever had septicemia or tetanus.

The constant drip of these little things turn this show into a mediocre one for me, when it could easily have been so much more.

[Ironwood]

Uh, they just had a plague at the prison ?

[apocrypha]

Yeah, a respiratory illness that wasn't presented particularly realistically.

How come none of their wounds ever get infected? Before the advent of antibiotics (and after the likely point in our when antibiotics are useless) minor cuts and injuries could be a serious problem. A bad infection meant almost certain death.

Edit: *Especially* when they spend so much time beating rotting zombies to pulp with knives, crowbars, hammers, etc. Those things must be walking sacks of virulent bacteria!

[Tebonas]

Because it would make for boring Television?

[Surlyboi]

I'm pretty sure that's what's going on with Rick's hand.

[Ironwood]

How come none of their wounds ever get infected?

Yeah, how come ??  I mean, for fucks sake, tell us ?  HOW COME ?

AND WHY ARE THE CORPSES WALKING AROUND INSTEAD OF LYING DOWN ?

 

[jgsugden]

Because infections are just lies the Big Pharma fabricated to make you buy drugs!  Right?  Right?

They have not been totally without medical options - they had people with some medical training, access to books on health, and they've spent considerable time looking through medicine cabinets, etc...

[HaemishM]

They've also grabbed up any particular drugs they could find along the way. I'm pretty sure they have had a steady supply of penicillin since the beginning of the show, simply because that's such a general application antibiotic that it's everywhere. Not to mention things like OTC ointments (Neosporin, etc.) which are used to keep small cuts from getting infected.

[Hawkbit]

I assumed it was as if Haemish said; the basic needs are implied to be met. 

"Rick hunts for amoxicillin III" - best episode title yet!

[HaemishM]

Still more exciting than the farm. 

[Ironwood]

Are we really doing this ?

[TheWalrus]

Now, how come nobody on the Walking Dead ever gets infections? I don't mean zombie plague infections, I mean everyday infected wounds. There's frequently violence, multiple cuts, bruises, even gun shot wounds. They spend a lot of time either living rough or in filthy-looking places like the prison, and yet not a one of them has ever had septicemia or tetanus.

Er, they have? Several times actually. I can recall Daryl saying something about medicine for TDog, and how they should have just asked seeing as his brother was always getting the clap or some shit... There's more, but I don't recall them offhand. (Oh yeah, Carl when he got shot.)

[apocrypha]

Really? OK, I haven't been paying attention properly then.

Carry on.

[Ginaz]

I didn't know the girl that plays Beth recorded an album.  Not my type of music but she does have a nice voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQpcMMmGZPo

[Threash]

That was by far the worst episode of the show.

[jgsugden]

That was by far the worst episode of the show.

I thought it was pretty good, personally.  I certainly wouldn't complain about it.  Of course, I'm not sure there is an episode of the series that I would complain about - expect the one that was never made that was supposed to start season 2.  I'll complain that I never got to see it.

[Setanta]

That was by far the worst episode of the show.

I thought it was pretty good, personally.  I certainly wouldn't complain about it.  Of course, I'm not sure there is an episode of the series that I would complain about - expect the one that was never made that was supposed to start season 2.  I'll complain that I never got to see it.

I'd complain about 70% of season 2 and TBH, a fair bit of S3 as well!

There's been some quality moments but there's been a hell of a lot of shitty writing too.

[jgsugden]

To each their own, but even in the slower pace of season 2, I've been very pleased.

[Threash]

They could've redeemed the episode if Daryl had turned out to be a computer salesman or accountant instead of going with the unsurprising cliche.

[MahrinSkel]

We already knew that Daryl and Merle didn't have a suburban mall rat background, it would have been pretty hard to shoehorn a white-collar job into their mutual backstaory at this point.  Cliche would have been having them hook up (with the predictable consequences when they finally meet up with Carol), having dodged that I don't mind them doing the obvious with Daryl's crappy white-trash daddy issues.

It could be seen as one of the weaker episodes this season, but it's nowhere near as bad as most of of the Farm Season.  If they were going to go with a character development exposition dump/scenery chewing, at least the walkers weren't reduced to off-screen menace.

--Dave

[Hawkbit]

Personally, I thought this was one of the strongest episodes of the series.  The final 15 minutes showed real human beings interacting, not just a plot push. 

Daryl finally broke.  Beth realized she's not built for that world and likely won't make it much longer.  However, she makes Daryl realize he was built for that world, he's going to be the one likely to take care of Carl when Rick dies at the end of the series. 

Or maybe Daryl dies next week, who knows with this show.  Regardless, I liked that they showed Daryl's human side for once.

[HaemishM]

Personally, I thought this was one of the strongest episodes of the series.  The final 15 minutes showed real human beings interacting, not just a plot push. 

This. That was a fantastic character development issue and one that was much needed. It changed Beth from an annoying character to one that makes sense and one that I actually like. And it let Darryl be more than just the badass.

[Tannhauser]

It was good, but I wish we had gotten just a little bit more out of the episode.  Good scene where she hugs him from behind, powerful.

[Velorath]

I thought it was a decent episode aside from Beth's completely unrealistic reaction to drinking alcohol for the first time (especially since it was Moonshine).

[Ironwood]

Yeah, good episode, but she should have just fallen over after the second one.  The lassies just skin and bones for gods sake.

[Threash]

Not to mention a teenager who's never drank anything in her life.

[Ironwood]

Well, except Velorath did mention it. 

[Surlyboi]

Maybe she's of Scottish descent.

[Cyrrex]

Personally, I thought this was one of the strongest episodes of the series.  The final 15 minutes showed real human beings interacting, not just a plot push. 

This. That was a fantastic character development issue and one that was much needed. It changed Beth from an annoying character to one that makes sense and one that I actually like. And it let Darryl be more than just the badass.

Yeah.  I have been getting a little peeved at the regression back to type for Darryl, and was relieved to see that it really just was a wall he had built up and that he actually does give a shit.  I got a little choked up there at the end.  And I am really starting to like Beth, though I fear her time is short.

[TheWalrus]

It was still pretty telling that even after all this time the preconceived notions the group has/had about him still shine through. I thought the jail challenge was exceedingly bitchy. It should have gotten a well deserved swift fuck you, instead of the drawn out fuck you exchange.

[apocrypha]

I thought that was fair enough. Like he said, he's a mean drunk. I thought the whole episode was pretty well acted tbh. And while I think Norman Reedus is a better actor than Emily Kinney I think she's come further and probably had to work harder at that episode.

I was fully expecting it to end with a clumsy, drunken attempt by her to seduce him. But given that I think she's being portrayed as 16 years old (or so) I guess that's somewhere AMC don't want to go.

[Cyrrex]

I just looked her up, and she is 28 IRL.  That kinda blows my mind a little.

The whole thing with Daryl is, I think, a little different than what is being said here.  The assumption the others have about him is not that he is some former useless drunk redneck ex-tweaker dangerous asshole shitbag.  That is what they thought about Merle (and rightly so).  No, the consistent theme with Daryl is that they know that he came from that kind of environment - but he has always been better than that.  They don't guess that he was the guy in prison, they assume he was the guy guarding the prison.  He is as good or better than the very best of them, and not just as a survivalist.  I think the problem with the writing is that it is all too easy for them to pull out the "there goes Daryl, being all rednecky and moody again" every time the shit hits the fan, but it does make a certain amount of sense, because a guy like Daryl has absolutely no idea of his own worth.  I am hoping that Beth has broken down that wall once and for all, but I doubt it.  I fear she may be end up being another Sophia.

[jgsugden]

I think different characters see Daryl differently.  I think that if you put him in a room with some people in the 'group' and they had a frank conversation, some would still be very dismissive of his value - while others would see him as an essential member of the community.

Regardless, I think he was a follower in the redneck tweeker lifestyle that just happened to collect some skills useful in the zombie apocalyse and managed to be the last ex-tweeker standing... but that he has grown.  The last few episodes were (partially) about him seeing the world that had grown around him destroyed, and him being afraid that the only thing that made him better thatn what he used to be was the people that surrounded him that are gone.  I think this was a key battle in him truly believeing he is better than who he used to be.

As a reminder, one of the key changes they've made between the comics and the show is that they jump ahead in time at certain points to allow characters time to age.  They skip months at a time a few times - once right before they found the prison, and once during the time they were at the prison.  I'm not sure if there were other times they had time jumps.  They were unclear on how much time has passed.   Beth started out around 16, but she could very well be 18 by now...  or even older.

[palmer_eldritch]

I enjoyed the long talky angsty episode but I hope they don't do that again. Maybe once a season.