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Reply #665 on: October 18, 2012, 04:47:20 AM

I'm assuming that a live, healthy person can fight off the zombie juice. A zombie carries a super strenth dose because they're "dead" and their immune system no longer fights off the zombie juice. So a wound from a zombie can overcome the immune system and turn someone while they're still alive. A scratch might be dangerous, but it might not.
It's storybook science, so probably doesn't make sense for a "real" disease, then again, I haven't read the books and have not totally ruled out a truly supernatural nature to the zombieitus yet.

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The novel Feed has an interesting take on it:  Everyone is infected with the dormant version of the virus (which is a combination of two retroviruses, one that eliminates the Cold and one that fights cancer),  but nearly any contact with the "live" version of the virus from saliva or blood from the infected activates the dormant virus and causes zombification.  Also, the virus goes active from the stress of the host dying and causes the person to reanimate.
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Reply #666 on: October 20, 2012, 09:37:47 PM

The problem is viruses need living cells to reproduce or "live". Once the host dies there's not much difference between the corpse and a stainless steel counter. Of course, viruses have a pretty wide range of lifespans without a host, but they're not going to keep reproducing. Bacteria and other microbes would keep on reproducing though.

Not really the biggest problem with the non-magical zombie genre, but a bite shouldn't be much worse than rubbing fresh roadkill on a wound. By the time the zombie would be really, really foul it's mandible would just fall off if it tried to bite anything from soft tissue decomposition. What would matter more is where a bite or wound is. An ankle or forearm bite wouldn't be as big a deal, but a bite on the neck would be bad even if normal, healthy adult was biting you. 

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Reply #667 on: October 29, 2012, 08:07:43 AM

Well that was interesting. I've never read any of the books, so I only knew of the Governor from non-spoilery hints. I get the feeling the last scene wasn't exactly the same as the books, possibly they went with a weird deviation a little more suitable for TV?

I'm assuming he'll eventually justify his actions in this episode with some sort of grand vision.


Was nice seeing someone in this world actually taking a scientific approach to these things.

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Reply #668 on: October 29, 2012, 08:16:41 AM

Its about male to female ratios like the last act of 28days later.

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Reply #669 on: October 29, 2012, 09:12:36 AM

I'm guessing he only wants to take in lone stragglers he can easily integrate into his existing structures under his unchallenged leadership. An organized block of soldiers with more solidarity to each other than to him threatens his power base. Which I guess would be bad news for Ricks little crew if discovered as well.

That or he really really hates military types.
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Reply #670 on: November 04, 2012, 07:27:18 PM

Holy.  Shit.

Powerful shit- I am man enough to admit it brought tears to my eyes.

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Reply #671 on: November 04, 2012, 08:14:46 PM

Yeah, infinitely better than last season.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #672 on: November 04, 2012, 08:39:06 PM

That was really great with one caveat:

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Reply #673 on: November 04, 2012, 09:11:00 PM

That was really great with one caveat:


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Reply #674 on: November 05, 2012, 12:37:09 AM


Over and out.
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Reply #675 on: November 05, 2012, 12:56:21 AM

Can't you just be glad shes gone and move on?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #676 on: November 05, 2012, 09:20:30 AM

It was the only logical choice anyway because

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Reply #677 on: November 05, 2012, 10:28:43 AM


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Reply #678 on: November 05, 2012, 12:26:48 PM

Definitely pet worthy though!

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Reply #679 on: November 05, 2012, 01:41:02 PM


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Reply #680 on: November 05, 2012, 01:47:42 PM


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Reply #681 on: November 05, 2012, 02:59:21 PM

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Reply #682 on: November 05, 2012, 03:14:31 PM

Holy crap that was an intense, graphic and enthralling episode! 
Very happy with this season so far. 
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Reply #683 on: November 05, 2012, 03:30:58 PM

Someone once said that they felt the walking dead went a bit too Lost for their tastes. I'm not getting that feeling at all, I'm actually pretty damn satisfied with the show, and I'm hungering for more.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
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Reply #684 on: November 05, 2012, 03:33:02 PM

Definitely moving faster then last season.  I didn't think things would progress this fast at the prison.
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Reply #685 on: November 06, 2012, 08:19:14 AM

Holy shit, they finally remember T-Dog exists!


Really powerful episode, especially with the Lori/baby thing and Rick's reaction was just incredible acting. I'm also surprised at how quickly the prison has deteriorated. I expected them to have a little more time there to explore their feelings.

The Governator is starting to bug me though. He's obviously an Englishman trying to cop an American accent and it hurts his acting a bit in places. Plus, the whole Andrea is a fucking idiot with the screaming thigh sweats for the Governator is annoying too.

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Reply #686 on: November 07, 2012, 11:11:04 AM

Andrea has often annoyed me.  She goes from ditz to badass back to ditz.
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Reply #687 on: November 07, 2012, 12:15:22 PM

Andrea has often annoyed me.  She goes from ditz to badass back to ditz.

Yeah I don't understand what her deal is on the show.  They took what's cool about her in the comics and added an idiot factor.
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Reply #688 on: November 08, 2012, 12:51:18 AM

I know it makes no sense (but little does in this show) but I was really hoping for zombie baby clawing it's way out.

Andrea strikes me as someone trying to reinvent herself constantly, but not being sure who exactly it is she wants to be. She's so wrapped up in herself that it makes her unable to analyse what other people are really like. She's also very contradictory - her animosity towards Dale was driven by his attraction to her, but her need to feel attractive again is putting her in a stupid position with Merle and the Governor. Maybe she's just badly written....

Powerful stuff though, very glad they've upped the game significantly from last season.

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Reply #689 on: November 08, 2012, 01:00:16 PM

Oh wow.

That was amazing.  The acting in that last scene was just incredible.

Jesus.  Looking forward to seeing where else they take this.
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Reply #690 on: November 08, 2012, 04:39:32 PM

Season 2: Watch it or skip and go straight to Season 3?

I really liked season 1 a little while back, and I started watching season 2, but its not really grabbing me, and teh intardnet tells me that overall its not very strong.  I'd been thinking about giving up on Walking Dead overall, but I'm hearing lots of good stuff about Season 3.

So, should I stick with season 2, or just skip it and jump straight into season 3.  Thoughts?
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Reply #691 on: November 08, 2012, 05:16:25 PM

Season 2: Watch it or skip and go straight to Season 3?
Marathon it if you have the time like I did.  It really wasn't as annoying as people made it out to be when you aren't waiting a week to see if nothing happens again.  Or go for the first 3-4 episodes and then the last 3 will get you pretty much caught up to where things begin with season 3 while skipping a bit of less than exciting episodes where nothing really progresses outside of 5-10 minutes.
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Reply #692 on: November 08, 2012, 05:38:56 PM

Even though season 2 is a little slow, I would just watch it all and not skip episodes.
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Reply #693 on: November 08, 2012, 05:41:40 PM

There are a couple epic moments in Season 2 you will want to catch.

No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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Reply #694 on: November 09, 2012, 12:21:47 PM

Thanks all, thats a pretty clear endorsement.  I'll keep going.
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Reply #695 on: November 12, 2012, 05:27:05 PM

Season 2: Watch it or skip and go straight to Season 3?

I've just watched season 1 (excellent, loved it) and season 2 (a repetitive grind) and the first 3 episodes of season 3 (patchy so far, but better than season 2).

Season 2 is just "post-apocalyptic life on a farm". It's boring, with twice as many episodes as were needed. If I hadn't been sick and unable to do anything else, I wouldn't have got through it. But watching season 3 without knowing what happened in the 943 episodes of season 2 wouldn't make any sense. So if you want to stick with this series because zombies, suck it up and good luck.

I caught up on Homeland during the same flu, and it's far better even though it's more cerebral.

There are a couple epic moments in Season 2 you will want to catch.

I don't think I can remember any. Was it the time Shane tightened the bolts on the windmill? Or the omelette in episode 6?
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Reply #696 on: November 12, 2012, 08:09:37 PM

Season 2: Watch it or skip and go straight to Season 3?

I've just watched season 1 (excellent, loved it) and season 2 (a repetitive grind) and the first 3 episodes of season 3 (patchy so far, but better than season 2).

Season 2 is just "post-apocalyptic life on a farm". It's boring, with twice as many episodes as were needed. If I hadn't been sick and unable to do anything else, I wouldn't have got through it. But watching season 3 without knowing what happened in the 943 episodes of season 2 wouldn't make any sense. So if you want to stick with this series because zombies, suck it up and good luck.

I caught up on Homeland during the same flu, and it's far better even though it's more cerebral.

There are a couple epic moments in Season 2 you will want to catch.

I don't think I can remember any. Was it the time Shane tightened the bolts on the windmill? Or the omelette in episode 6?

1. Shane gets killed.  Twice.  Kinda big deal, my bad you are trolling
2. Father/son scene where gun is passed down
3. Dale?

Just 3 such events. My bad that the pacing and/or realism isn't "Revolution."

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Reply #697 on: November 12, 2012, 08:52:32 PM

That scene in the bar where Rick/Glenn/Hershel encounter the other scavengers is the first one that comes to mind for me.

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Reply #698 on: November 12, 2012, 09:11:03 PM

Sophia coming out of the barn.
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Reply #699 on: November 12, 2012, 10:51:33 PM

Spoiler tags anyone?
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