Walking Dead

[Cheddar]

I think the barn is why the farm had little issue with walkers.  As the roamers migrated around they sensed there was already a group of zombies on sight so moved on.

Shame they killed off the barn.

[Threash]

I thought it was mainly because of that swamp that the zombies would get stuck in.

[TheWalrus]

Beginning to hate Andrea. Oddly this was the first episode I even mildly like Lori.

[Evildrider]

I wish they wouldn't fuck with Andrea so much.  She's such a badass in the comics.

[Tebonas]

I can't talk for comic Andrea, but this episode TV Andrea surpassed even Lori in Needs-to-dieness. And that is quite the feat.

[tazelbain]

Still hate Lori the most by a far margin.  Extremely shallow character that a misogynist stereotype of women. Andrea is a bitch. That's not a bad thing especially in a world gone to shit.  If Lori needs help with laundry Glenn and Dale should be helping out.

[Tebonas]

But it is a bad thing. From a pure rational viewpoint the most scarce resource are living humans. Letting them kill themself in a fit of depression is not the way to a brighter future.

Lori still is a useless person, but at least this episode she didn't threaten the continued survival of the group. For a change.

[tazelbain]

People who aren't interested in survival are a burden to the group.

[angry.bob]

Post-revelation Herschel should be leading the group. Rick is way too forgiving. Shane is confirmed as an unsalvageable shitpile. For all of his "You can't keep the group safe" pussyrubbing, they've lost one person in the form of a developementally challenged girl and picked up an awesome piece of property and increased the group by two breeding couples and a medical person who is going to turn out to be an ex-SEAL or some other sort of ultimate badass. Point: Rick.

[Bunk]

they've lost one person in the form of a developementally challenged girl

I think you are forgetting Jim, and Amy, and Jacqui, and Merle. Oh and probably Morales's entire family.

That being said, I still agree with you. Other than the whole "These guys must have been infected by scratches. I know, I'll cut my hand open and then smear it on zombie heads repeatedly!"

[Miguel]

That being said, I still agree with you. Other than the whole "These guys must have been infected by scratches. I know, I'll cut my hand open and then smear it on zombie heads repeatedly!"

My wife and I were debating this last night, which prompted a few Google searches.

Apparently the "zombie virus" is not what kills you:  it's what reanimates your corpse.  Smearing their blood all over your open wounds doesn't kill you, it just guarantees that your corpse will reanimate.  Apparently the bite itself is much like the bite of a komodo dragon where the fever and infection are caused by something other than the zombie virus.  I don't want to start a neckbeard fight here, but it does explain that if that's the canon the writers are going by, why they can have zombie corpses draped all over themselves while they have their own open wounds. 

[Bunk]

  Apparently the bite itself is much like the bite of a komodo dragon where the fever and infection are caused by something other than the zombie virus. 

This is pretty much how I had it figured as well, which is why the whole "it must be from scratches!" scene made no sense to me.

[angry.bob]

I think you are forgetting Jim, and Amy, and Jacqui, and Merle. Oh and probably Morales's entire family.

I excluded them on purpose. Jim and Amy were infected before Rick became "leader" (at least in my opinion) in that zombie rush at night, Jacqui commited suicide with Jenner, The Morales family left on their own to go in a different direction. Merle is a fair point though, I should count him.

[Tannhauser]

My take on the dead cops.

[MisterNoisy]

Really quite liked this ep - the shot of the walker in the field that Shane kept staring at was particularly moving for me.

Also, the song that they closed out with was fucking awesome.

[Cheddar]

My take on the dead cops.

I need to rewatch the episode- this was a pretty good observation.  Minus the lack of gunshot wounds or whatever.

It is obvious the bus was occupied by families.  All in all I was totally absorbed in the "oh shit tons of fast zombies all of a sudden!"

Now my mind wonders if they were more recent then previously dealt with zombies?  They seemed much more agile and faster then others we have seen.

[Bunk]

Really quite liked this ep - the shot of the walker in the field that Shane kept staring at was particularly moving for me.

Did you notice that he was on Shane's side of the car, walking the same direction the car was travelling - both coming and going. 

[angry.bob]

For once The Talking Dead afterwards wasn't a complete waste of time. Scott Wilson had a lot of pretty interesting things to say, I wish they would have ditched Kevin Smith and the guy who plays trunk boy and just talked to Scott. Apparently Scott's mother told him to take the part after they had watched the show together and she had read the scripts. They also have a big picture of her as a young woman in Herschel's house.

[Xanthippe]

I found myself sympathizing with Andrea rather than Lori over the idea of suicide. Andrea's correct in that people who want to kill themselves need to have a reason not to. Otherwise it sucks group resources in trying to prevent their suicide.

With regard to the division of labor - why can't Dale do laundry? What the hell else does he do besides be on watch? At least Glenn is a good scavenger.

I don't like Andrea all that much (particularly not after her shooting Daryl - what a boneheaded move that was) but I still cannot stand Lori. She's setting up Rick to kill Shane now as though that is the only solution to the Shane problem. Why not try to convince him to leave instead? Because Lori's a worthless bitch who loves manipulating these two guys while she secretly hates men (what else explains her dismay over watching her own kid man up like he has?).

I do like Carol. Maggie so far too.

[angry.bob]

She's setting up Rick to kill Shane now as though that is the only solution to the Shane problem.

I see Shane as setting up Rick to kill Shane now as only solution to the Shane problem. Shane is bugfuck crazy and isn't trying very hard to hide it, plus that fight didn't help very much.

Lori being sad at watching her kid man up can be attributed to being sad that he has to man up. Childhood is over at what, 11 for TV Carl? That would upset and depress any parent. My kid starts kindergarten next fall and I'm sad about that. There's not even zombies involved, just expensive nuns and the fact that our house is districted for a really bad school.

[Tannhauser]

I finally really liked Rick.  He put Shane in his place and is thinking long term for the good of the group.  Shane belongs in the evil human camp, he can watch as women get raped and any injured get capped.  Rick is right, Shane needs to come back from the abyss and rejoin 'society'.  Shane will comply for now, he doesn't want to end up like the solitary zombie. 

He just needs to change his perspective, forget Lori and go bang Andrea who's practically his groupie.  But what fun would regaining his sanity be on a TV show? :)

I, too, sided with Andrea.  You can't expend resources doing a suicide watch indefinitely.  It was a crude plan but worked well.

Meta:  Jon Bernthal (Shane) is going to be on Frank Darabont's new TNT series, so I'd say he's walker-chow.  He's a damn good actor too.

[Cheddar]

For once The Talking Dead afterwards wasn't a complete waste of time. Scott Wilson had a lot of pretty interesting things to say, I wish they would have ditched Kevin Smith and the guy who plays trunk boy and just talked to Scott. Apparently Scott's mother told him to take the part after they had watched the show together and she had read the scripts. They also have a big picture of her as a young woman in Herschel's house.

Yeah, that was some good stuff.  Minus trunk boy.  God he sucked- actually made me cringe from his ackwardness.

[Tannhauser]

That's odd.  I think Randall(?) aka trunk boy was a regular on Rescue Me as Dennis Leary's son and he was solid.

[Threash]

The cops had no marks at all, i assumed given the topic of the episode that it was suicide.  Same as the people inside.  It was kind of odd that they were all packed in a closed building and the two guards were outside alone.

[Numtini]

The guys can do laundry and she can STFU about making excuses about why they can't.

From a pure rational viewpoint the most scarce resource are living humans

That's been my thought. Maybe it's our common infection with The Gay, but I keep hearing Neil Patrick Harris "we're in it for the species, boys and girls". You don't just get to off yourselves when you're genes are a valuable commodity.

Overall, I will watch anything with reanimated corpses, but these people have had long enough to get their priorities straight and I'm losing patience for the series.

[Ironwood]

I have a real problem with Shane cutting his palm with the same knife he sunk into a walkers head two seconds before.

[Tannhauser]

He'll be fine, he's got Chuck Norris blood.

[Threash]

I have a real problem with Shane cutting his palm with the same knife he sunk into a walkers head two seconds before.

Specially after the talk about how the guards turned from mere scratches literally five minutes before.

[Ironwood]

Yes.  Exactly.

It's either fucking stupid or something's going on.

[Bunk]

re the latest episode - fuck me this did not go where I was expecting it to. Do not read the spoiler before watching.

[angry.bob]

That was a really good episode.

[TheWalrus]

Wowzers. Though I'm still left wondering if the cow is a zombie cow? Guts on the ground and mooing doesn't exactly sound great. Cue ground beef joke. Fear the zombie bears.

[Velorath]

I got distracted during the big debate scene towards the end... because I realized I had completely forgotten about T-Dog (me and the writers both).  After I saw him there with the rest of the group I was trying to think if he had a single line of dialog in the last 2 or 3 episodes.  Hell, even Patricia got at least one line this episode.  Guess Dale didn't give a shit about convincing T-Dog to speak out at the meeting.

[Cheddar]

Man, crazy episode.   

Things just got real.

[Nevermore]

Wowzers. Though I'm still left wondering if the cow is a zombie cow? Guts on the ground and mooing doesn't exactly sound great. Cue ground beef joke. Fear the zombie bears.

I think it was eviscerated and just taking a long time to die.  A bit of 1 minute foreshadowing. 

You know, it's pretty amazing how sneaky those zombies can be when they want to be.  Also, Carl seems to take after his mother when it comes to making brilliant decisions.