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Rasix
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At least Gruden will be coaching somewhere instead of yapping next year?
I long for the day where he's not eye fucking Jaws during one of their promo commercials. Goddamn, they're an awkward pair.
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HaemishM
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I'd be willing to donate to a "Bring Gruden to the University of Miami" fund just to get him off of MNF. As far as I'm concerned he is the most insufferable color analyst currently working football, and he shits up Monday night games for me every week. Hell, I'd be happy if he went anywhere but Dallas. Please, don't let him come to Dallas...
You don't want them bringing Kornhole back do you? Gruden gets annoying, but at least he knows shit about football.
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Abagadro
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Bring back Dennis Miller! 
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Chimpy
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Bring back Dennis Miller!  Dennis Miller was awesome. The problem was, most of his jokes went so far over the general american populace's head that they all thought he was "not funny". Of course, then 9/11 happened and he turned into Rush Limbaugh minus 200 lbs.....
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Gruden gets annoying, but at least he knows shit about football.
A fact rendered completely irrelevant, as Gruden has been in full-on political "Until I get a coaching job, Everyone in the league is awesome and The Best Of All Time At What They Do" mode since he got the gig.
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HaemishM
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Oh the MNF broadcast team's knob-slobbering has gotten really fucking bad this year. But I kind of expect it. I just don't understand why they feel the need for 3 guys in the booth. It shits up the broadcast as every one of them feels the need to say something at least once every 2 minutes even if it's nothing but inane babble. Tirico and Jaws could do the broadcast by themselves just fine, or better yet, get the 3 Mikes to do it (Greenberg, Golic and Ditka).
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Rasix
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Gruden gets annoying, but at least he knows shit about football.
A fact rendered completely irrelevant, as Gruden has been in full-on political "Until I get a coaching job, Everyone in the league is awesome and The Best Of All Time At What They Do" mode since he got the gig. MNF always turns anyone with a shred of knowledge into a full blown cheerleader the second they get in the booth. Remember, Jaws was respectable once.
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Draegan
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Gruden gets annoying, but at least he knows shit about football.
A fact rendered completely irrelevant, as Gruden has been in full-on political "Until I get a coaching job, Everyone in the league is awesome and The Best Of All Time At What They Do" mode since he got the gig. MNF always turns anyone with a shred of knowledge into a full blown cheerleader the second they get in the booth. Remember, Jaws was respectable once. This. I hate all the announcers and I used to like Jaws too. Now he's terrible on air. He's actually still kinda good on his early sunday morning show.
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Nebu
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You can't really blame the announcers. If you say anything negative about anyone, their fans will write hate mail to the network. They want on-air personalities that will make everyone happy about their team. Ratings are $$$.
As a side note: when did Americans become so shitty about hearing the truth? Sometimes people suck. Sometimes that person is you. Get over it.
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Ruvaldt
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I'd be willing to donate to a "Bring Gruden to the University of Miami" fund just to get him off of MNF. As far as I'm concerned he is the most insufferable color analyst currently working football, and he shits up Monday night games for me every week. Hell, I'd be happy if he went anywhere but Dallas. Please, don't let him come to Dallas...
You don't want them bringing Kornhole back do you? Gruden gets annoying, but at least he knows shit about football. If those are our only two choices then we're probably screwed, but I think the pool is at least a little larger. In fact, don't replace him at all. Loved Dennis Miller once upon a time, but yeah, he's too right-wing now. The last thing I want to hear during a MNF broadcast is "Arian Foster just fumbled the football like Obama fumbled the economy!" Plus, ESPN already had one right-wing radio host turned sports commentator and we all saw how that turned out. Ugh.
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I like Gruden and Jaworski both, but together, it's a redundant unit as they try to "out-nice" each other. What they really need is to lose one of the pair (and I think Gruden is biding his time for the right coaching gig) and add a curmudgeon that will "call it like it is". Like Cosell did — yeah, he was a slobbering buffoonish, cartoonish idiot for much of the broadcasts, but he did call it like he saw it (which was absolutely distorted, he had favorites and slobbered all over certain players) — but he wasn't reluctant to call out coaches and NFL overlords, which ultimately spiked his national broadcast career and relegated him to scrub weekend commentary shows. And he was entertaining. Enough that the a lead ESPN guy on NFL coverage (Berman) entire schtick is based on Cosell imitation.
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Berman couldn't hold Cosell's jock. Cosell was incredibly intelligent, which is not something I would call Berman.
I hated Cosell when I was a kid, since he was always either dissing or ignoring my beloved Seahawks. As I got older I understood more of what he was about. I am not sure I would ever really like him, but i think I would respect him. Sports journalism really misses his voice.
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Sauced
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Collinsworth is probably the best right now, but it's not saying much. At least he'll acknowledge when someone is having a bad game.
Jaws is still great on Playbook and other film breakdown shows, but it seems like his voice goes up an octave during games, not to mention forgoing any attempt at insight.
If I could pay an extra $5 a game to listen to the Joniak and Thayer radio feed during Bears games, I'd probably do it.
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Yeah, Cosell was actually pretty good.
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Chimpy
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If I could pay an extra $5 a game to listen to the Joniak and Thayer radio feed during Bears games, I'd probably do it.
You might be able to listen to it online. The station here in Champaign that simulcasts the games streams (though I do not listen to them so not sure if the games are included). http://www.925thechief.com/(Though I don't see what people like about those guys. Thayer sounds like a doof and Joniak is a spastic retard imo :p )
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Sauced
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I tend to watch the games alone (*sob*), so having two homers yelling along with me would enhance my experience!
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HaemishM
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That was some awesome goddamn video.
And the Packers inability to run the ball AND Ron Wolf's refusal to sign a veteran free agent QB as backup comes back to bite them in the ass. Seriously, you can't get a TD against the goddamn LIONS? What the fuck? Giving up 190 rushing yards to the fucking Lions? It's quite possible that the Packers will miss the playoffs and if they look back, they'll be able to tie it directly to this loss.
Seahawks LOL. Matter of fact, LOL to the whole goddamn NFC West which needs to be swallowed up in a fucking earthquake for sucking so hard. Do we really have to allow one of those teams into the playoffs? There's a possibility that a 7-9 team could win the division and host a playoff game and the NFL wants to add MORE wildcard teams? FUCK THAT NOISE.
Oh, Mark Sanchez. Everyone gets so ready to anoint you as the next elite QB and then you have another game like last night. Maybe next year.
Terrible, terrible football weekend. I had/have to root for the goddamn Patriots, the Cowboys AND the Vikings in the hopes of getting my Pack to the playoffs. Fucking fuckity fuck.
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The Pats look pretty awesome right now. Good thing I'm a fan. 
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Paelos
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The Jets offense looks like something I scraped off my boot.
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Sauced
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Chimpy
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That was some awesome goddamn video.
And the Packers inability to run the ball AND Ron Wolf's refusal to sign a veteran free agent QB as backup comes back to bite them in the ass. Seriously, you can't get a TD against the goddamn LIONS? What the fuck? Giving up 190 rushing yards to the fucking Lions? It's quite possible that the Packers will miss the playoffs and if they look back, they'll be able to tie it directly to this loss.
Didn't Ron Wolf retire like 10 years ago? Ted Thompson is the VP douchebag that controls personnel now. Also, the Lions are a lot better team than their record would indicate.
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Bunk
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You know it's bad when they switch coverage from your team's game over to a different game with more than a quarter left to play - and you just don't give a shit.
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HaemishM
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That was some awesome goddamn video.
And the Packers inability to run the ball AND Ron Wolf's refusal to sign a veteran free agent QB as backup comes back to bite them in the ass. Seriously, you can't get a TD against the goddamn LIONS? What the fuck? Giving up 190 rushing yards to the fucking Lions? It's quite possible that the Packers will miss the playoffs and if they look back, they'll be able to tie it directly to this loss.
Didn't Ron Wolf retire like 10 years ago? Ted Thompson is the VP douchebag that controls personnel now. Also, the Lions are a lot better team than their record would indicate. You are correct on both counts. Packers are still too good a team to be losing a game like that, but they have no depth.
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Chimpy
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You are correct on both counts. Packers are still too good a team to be losing a game like that, but they have no depth.
Well, Ted Thompson should be the one to blame for that. I think he is still gloating in his personal wacky-world about his "victory" over his nemesis Brett Favre, three years later.
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HaemishM
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I agree with Thompson over Favre, but that doesn't change the fact that he has almost exclusively relied on youth and draft picks to build the team. While admirable, it's a much longer game to play it that way. I would hardly want him to go on a Daniel Synder free agent buy fest, it has bit the team in the ass in many areas over the last few years. Running back is one area, cornerback is another. There were a whole shitload of busted draft picks trying to back up Al Harris and they kind of lucked into Tramon Williams. The O line is another area where that's hurt us. Bulaga is a keeper, but the rest of the line is one or two injuries away from being the shit piece it was last year. I'm not sure what would have been wrong with paying a guy like Kitna or Kerry Collins a million to back up Rodgers.
Also, in other news, Rodgers needs to learn how to goddamn slide.
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Cyrrex
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It's funny, with that head-first slide that quarterbacks do. The result (fumble, brain trauma) is almost always worse than what would happen if they just kept running and got tackled like everyone else does.
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Paelos
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Falcons are 11-2, and I'm still not hearing anything about them in the media flurry.
You know what I am hearing? Brady, Jets suck, Philly rules, Cutler sucks, Favre might not play, Dome falls in.
Um, WTF? The Falcons have ground down every team, reeled off 7 in a row, have the best NFC record, and they still get glossed over? Some people are in for a rude awakening come playoff time.
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I think they are getting the credit they deserve in terms of how they are being ranked, but yeah, they don't get as much press.
Though as much as I'd like to find the opposite to be true, I'm thinking the Pats would put a beatdown on them, too. How the fuck do they continue to do it? Belliprick has to be the best football man ever.
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Paelos
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I think they are getting the credit they deserve in terms of how they are being ranked, but yeah, they don't get as much press.
Though as much as I'd like to find the opposite to be true, I'm thinking the Pats would put a beatdown on them, too. How the fuck do they continue to do it? Belliprick has to be the best football man ever.
I'd like to see it as a super bowl matchup. The Pats would be favored, but I don't think they would win. The Falcons are just as good in turnover margin, 3rd down conversions, and defense. They are better in penalty discipline, time of possession, and 10 play drives. They grind on opponents. They wear you out. They don't give you the ball to do what you want to do. It's boring, it's gritty, it's not at all flashy, and it's been winning over and over because if Matty Ice has the ball in the last two minutes with a chance to win, he's going to do it.
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I think they are getting the credit they deserve in terms of how they are being ranked, but yeah, they don't get as much press.
Though as much as I'd like to find the opposite to be true, I'm thinking the Pats would put a beatdown on them, too. How the fuck do they continue to do it? Belliprick has to be the best football man ever.
I'd like to see it as a super bowl matchup. The Pats would be favored, but I don't think they would win. The Falcons are just as good in turnover margin, 3rd down conversions, and defense. They are better in penalty discipline, time of possession, and 10 play drives. They grind on opponents. They wear you out. They don't give you the ball to do what you want to do. It's boring, it's gritty, it's not at all flashy, and it's been winning over and over because if Matty Ice has the ball in the last two minutes with a chance to win, he's going to do it. Still lost to the Steelers' backup QB. Oh, and I might be a little biased there, but  to the reffing regarding QB Safety. I mean really? Ben already has a broken nose and you don't call ANYTHING on him? Knee to the head, way late hits and... argh sorry. Maybe the wrong forum. /FBRant
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Paelos
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Still lost to the Steelers' backup QB.
Game One. Pats lost to Cleveland in Week 9. 
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HaemishM
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It's boring, it's gritty, it's not at all flashy There's your answer. The same reason Mike Vick was a huge celebrity when he was in Atlanta despite the fact his teams never won more than 10 games or really got close to a Super Bowl. Nobody's getting raped, no animals have been injured in the making of this football team, no supermodels have been fucked, and there's no billion dollar stadium to masturbate over. They are dead air in press terms. I'm not totally convinced their D could shut down Tom Brady, but I'm not sure the Pats D could shut down Matty Ice either. The Steelers match up well to them defensively as do the Ravens. The Falcons are hands down the best team in the NFC and the Giants will always get more press than them because they are the Giants. Hell, the Saints didn't get much press last year until they were about 10 or 12 wins in (with no losses) and that was mostly because they were undefeated.
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Paelos
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Sure, the press loves to chase the drama-whores. Still, I expected at least some sort of talk about the playoff matchup potentials, and the best teams. I want some damn hyperbole! Where's Jaws?!
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