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Bunk
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Nice to see the Bears win one by kicking ass, rather than relying on a "controversial" call.
Favre - wake up you fucking old fool. I'd have done better in my pool playing Orton.
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HaemishM
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I'm actually delighted to see that Orton is having a good season even though I hate the Broncos. As much as he was derided in Chicago, they had a better chance to win with him there than with Grossman in '06. He's turned into a QB who takes care of the football (more than Cutler that's for sure) and it warms the cockles of my heart that the Bears mortgaged the future on Cutler when they had an acceptable QB in Orton.
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Segoris
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Yeah, weird day yesterday. Bears looked great - Cutler with 3td and 0 int...wth? Sanchez looked not only like a nfl qb, but a good QB (yeah he had a lot of help, but he put the ball where and when it needed to be). Romo/Favre/Brady didn't look as sharp as they normally do.
As for the Mannings, while I was bored during the first half I was also incredibly impressed with the Colts over the Giants. I've also seen something I've never seen before...a substitution on an audible. That was some crazy shit that left me in disbelief for a moment. I knew Peyton has positioned himself to redefine a leadership role, but that took it to an even further level of how far ahead of others he truly is and how much power the Colts give him. Also, fucking Moore fumbling with 2 minutes left in the game and letting Eli throw that second TD. That may finalize my loss in this week's JV league.
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Segoris
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I'm actually delighted to see that Orton is having a good season even though I hate the Broncos. As much as he was derided in Chicago, they had a better chance to win with him there than with Grossman in '06. He's turned into a QB who takes care of the football (more than Cutler that's for sure) and it warms the cockles of my heart that the Bears mortgaged the future on Cutler when they had an acceptable QB in Orton.
Orton really wasn't that good of a fit though in Chi with that old offense. Had he remained and Martz been brought in he would have been fine, but I still think in the long run the Cutler move will pay off if they ever get him a good primary and a decent line. Cutler and Martz work well together, and Orton really fits in Denver.
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Paelos
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Wade Phillips has deserved a firing for the last two seasons. He's a Jerry Jones puppet and we all hate him. He has no killer instinct and is a total yes-man for the owner. We need a coach who actually wants to win, gets fired up, and makes decisions based on football and not on keeping the owner placated.
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Segoris
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Agreed, but would Jerry Jones ever hire someone who is not a yes-man? I don't think he would, given that I'd only consider Johnson and Parcells the two coaches that the Cowboys have had in the last 20 years that might not fit that criteria.
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Trippy
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Unless they are like 0-8 or something, I don't see Jerry Jones firing Wade Phillips mid-season. Now, I do think he'll be gone at the end of the season unless they win the Super Bowl, which they won't. I'm not sure any of the other three will be bad enough to warrant a mid-season shitcanning.
Jerry desperately wants the Cowboys to play in the Super Bowl Dallas is hosting this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he does something drastic to try and make that happen.
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Cyrrex
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Unless they are like 0-8 or something, I don't see Jerry Jones firing Wade Phillips mid-season. Now, I do think he'll be gone at the end of the season unless they win the Super Bowl, which they won't. I'm not sure any of the other three will be bad enough to warrant a mid-season shitcanning.
Jerry desperately wants the Cowboys to play in the Super Bowl Dallas is hosting this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he does something drastic to try and make that happen. Pssh, well if that's all he wants then I have a simple solution for him. Buy the Green Bay Packers.
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Nebu
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Jerry desperately wants the Cowboys to play in the Super Bowl Dallas is hosting this season.
Jerry may be disappointed. 
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Paelos
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Jerry's an Arkansas hillbilly nutbag who is still butthurt over Jimmy Johnson being a shitheel and a winner. It was 17 years ago, fucking man up and buy us a winner dammit!
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Unless they are like 0-8 or something, I don't see Jerry Jones firing Wade Phillips mid-season. Now, I do think he'll be gone at the end of the season unless they win the Super Bowl, which they won't. I'm not sure any of the other three will be bad enough to warrant a mid-season shitcanning.
Jerry desperately wants the Cowboys to play in the Super Bowl Dallas is hosting this season. I wouldn't be surprised if he does something drastic to try and make that happen. I dunno, it sure looks to me that Jerry Jones is really coaching the team, and indeed, Bum Jr. is just his puppet. Watching NFL network interview Dallas owner & coach, it certainly appears to me that Bum Jr. nothing more than defensive coordinator for the team, and Mr. Jerry is calling the shots (even usurping his coach on defense decisions). So firing Bum Jr. would just be an admission that Mr. Jerry had failed in steering his coach-ship. Unless he conducts an about-face, then brings in a truly independent minded coach / GM and allow them to operate without his overbearing interference. Or maybe he lines up another sock puppet and slides Bum Jr. into another role, as a scout or cup washer or ring polisher…
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Cowboys......hahahahahaha. 
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Bungee
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Great weekend of football. NE lost, Baltimore lost, the NYG suck it up, Dallas goes down the drain, Arizona gets hammered and the Steelers win.
Anybody noticed the fact the Steelers won the game with 21 net passing yards? Prizeless...
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HaemishM
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Yeah, they were all over that on ESPN Radio on the way home. There goes any chance I had of rooting for the Eagles ever again. Fuck that team.
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Paelos
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Whelp I'm glad I wasted a pick on my fantasy team for Kevin Kolb. 
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This was so predictable. Vick is such a great talent that it is hard to keep him off the field.
"'Kevin is fine. It's not an injury-related issue,' Reid said. 'It's not about judging him. He's going to be a championship-caliber quarterback.'
This decision to go with Vick had been in the works for two days."
Fucking hilarious. I bet they win a lot of games with Vick leading their "dawgs".
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Nebu
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I bet they win a lot of games with Vick leading their "dawgs".
I'll take that bet. Here's why. Vick is a natural talent. He has a ton of physical gifts. This only takes you so far as an NFL QB as a) you ultimately have to be able to read and understand defensive schemes and b) film will reveal Vicks tendencies in a few games. Once defensive coordinators know that Vick is a regular fixture, they will reconfigure their defenses to contain him. Sure, Phili will continue to win the games that they should win, but they will have a hard time against teams with better prepared and/or more athletic defenses able to corral Vick.
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Exactly. He is a one trick pony, and defensive coordinators will be able to scheme him out of the game pretty easily.
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Paelos
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Vick's more in tune with the work ethic it requires to be an NFL QB than he was before prison. He should be able to adapt and read defenses better than he used to, and I think he's fully capable of effectively running an NFL offense to 20-30 points a game. However, I think he will get injured trying to do too much, or be prone to fumbles when he should have tucked the ball away. Also, Philly won't lose because of Vick. They will lose because their defense is completely wretched. No other D in the NFL has given up more points than them, and one of their two games was against Detroit. 
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I hope the Eagles lose every game. I don't approve of letting Vick back in the league (even though he's a heck of a talent), and the way the whole McNabb thing went down was full of douche.
I've never been much of a Redskins fan, but I find myself pulling for them this year.
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shiznitz
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Man, I love Philly!
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ghost
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Or maybe to trade for Kolb.
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Paelos
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So they trade their regular starter because the backup is ready for primetime, and just in case he sucks they have a 3rd stringer in place who they tried to deal in the offseason but couldn't find any buyers. Then, after the backup gets hurt and the 3rd stringer has a decent game, they are ready to trade the backup to be a starter somewhere else because he's obviously not good enough to carry the team. So now, the 3rd option is starting, because you couldn't deal him.
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ghost
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Sounds like you're ready to be an NFL GM Paelos.
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Cyrrex
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C'mon, we all saw this coming from a mile off, didn't we? It's not like Vick was your typical third stringer. It's not much of a stretch to think that Reid was hoping for this exact situation to arise from the very start. Instead of being the guy who starts Vick according to his own whim, and getting resoundly crapped on as a result...he is the guy that caved into to the whims of the fans and appears somewhat reluctant. Win-win for him. Win for Vick. Win for McNabb.
Big lose for Kevin Kolb. But nobody really gives a shit about that.
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Paelos
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Big lose for Kevin Kolb. But nobody really gives a shit about that.
Except the people who fantasy drafted him. 
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JWIV
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Big lose for Kevin Kolb. But nobody really gives a shit about that.
Except the people who fantasy drafted him.  My family league is so in the shitter now. Kolb and Flacco were my gifts from the autodraft. 
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Paelos
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I'm hanging my entire season on Carson Palmer now. Joy.
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« Last Edit: September 23, 2010, 08:58:12 AM by WayAbvPar »
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HaemishM
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I couldn't agree more with that link. The Vick train is going to blow up in their faces, and I'll be ecstatic if it turns out they don't make the playoffs and the Redskins do.
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shiznitz
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The winner of the NFC East will be 9-7. Anyone could do it. Vick will blow up, though. I would expect a few 5 INT games from him this season.
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WayAbvPar
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Watching Michael Vick fail is one of the wonderful treasures that the NFL offers the discerning fan.
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
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