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Topic: Civilization V- Might actually be good now. Stay tuned. (Read 477149 times)
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dusematic
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What do you mean by random maps? If you just mean random as not based on real geography then yeah I guess so. However, in online multiplayer play, there is a biggish Earth/Europe/Mediterranean map scene.
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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Also, the game won't have a manual, they just posted something on their site about being more eco-friendly. Instead they're rolling with an "interactive" PDF manual, that they pledge to update as the game changes. I like this move, mainly because I don't care about manuals. I can see how manual nerds will be miffed.
WTF? There goes half the reason I wanted a store copy. Goddamn it. |
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Paelos
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Over a manual? Print is dead.
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dusematic
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I get the whole "wanting to have a physical copy of something" thing. It's just that I stopped using manuals around the same time you could alt-tab and pull up a website that was current and had better info for every game under the sun.
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Merusk
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Yeah, but then what do you read on the shitter that first week?
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Yeah, but then what do you read on the shitter that first week?
EXACTLY. Nothing in the world is better to read in the can than gaming related materials. Manuals, Player's Handbooks, Monster Manuals, etc. |
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That's why I have an iPhone.
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dusematic
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That's why I have an iPhone.
Seriously. Get a Droid or at least a printer. Fuck. |
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That's why I have an iPhone.
Yea, but what happens if the phone goes into the toilet?! A manual is much safer. |
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Merusk
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I don't own a phone. No need, I'm a desk jockey or out in the field in front of the guy I need to be talking to. If I'm not near a phone, I don't need to talk to you. (And iPads are just expensive toys, I'd rather buy a new camera lens.)
As for printing; I don't see why I should spend another $10 worth of paper and ink (mainly the fucking ink. Pricerape) for something I used to get for the purchase price. I'll just be disappointed and get over it.
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Yea, but what happens if the phone goes into the toilet?! A manual is much safer.
Where are you holding it that it could go into the toilet? NM, DON'T WANT TO KNOW!!  |
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Yeah, but then what do you read on the shitter that first week?
EXACTLY. Nothing in the world is better to read in the can than gaming related materials. Manuals, Player's Handbooks, Monster Manuals, etc. You know, WAP, I think this should be the ultimate gamer nerd gauge. Question 1 for 3 nerd points. Have you ever read a gaming manual on the pot? Question 2 for 3 million nerd points. Do you actually look forward to a game just so that you can read its manual on the can? |
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dusematic
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I don't own a phone. No need
Sure guy. I don't need a phone either. I also don't need to wipe my asshole. I just find both phone ownership and asswiping to be incredibly useful tactics in life. YMMV.  |
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Ingmar
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What do you mean by random maps? If you just mean random as not based on real geography then yeah I guess so. However, in online multiplayer play, there is a biggish Earth/Europe/Mediterranean map scene.
Yeah that's what I meant. I am pretty sure 90% (numbers courtesy of my ass) of the games of Civ that get played are single player games on random geography. |
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dusematic
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Sure I'm on board with that. I do dig the whole "pre-set start" map scene though. They've got some really cool user made maps based on Earth, Europe, Mediterranean, etc. that are really well balanced. In these maps, each civ starts approximately where you would expect. So obviously England starts at modern day London, and so on. It's pretty cool and fun. Like playing a giant game of Risk (if Risk had any strategy or complexity).
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Merusk
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Yea, but what happens if the phone goes into the toilet?! A manual is much safer.
Where are you holding it that it could go into the toilet? NM, DON'T WANT TO KNOW!! We had a guy at work lose his because he put it in his shirt pocket. No electronic eye flushers, so it fell into the can as he was bending over to pull the lever. You've never seen a guy embarrassed until you see one trying to explain said situation to the receptionist, and why she needed to call building maintenance. |
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Big Gulp
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Like playing a giant game of Risk (if Risk had any strategy or complexity).
Risk does have strategy and complexity. You just have to realize that you're playing other players and not the board. Risk allows for pacts, alliances and betrayal which is more than I can say for something like Axis & Allies.... |
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Ingmar
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Way to set the bar high there.  I can see why the fixed maps would be popular for multiplayer, everyone is theoretically on an even playing field in terms of knowing things they "shouldnt" due to fog of war terrain-wise. In a single-player game it makes for an extra advantage against the AI that you don't really need. |
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Nevermore
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Yea, but what happens if the phone goes into the toilet?! A manual is much safer.
Where are you holding it that it could go into the toilet? NM, DON'T WANT TO KNOW!! We had a guy at work lose his because he put it in his shirt pocket. No electronic eye flushers, so it fell into the can as he was bending over to pull the lever. You've never seen a guy embarrassed until you see one trying to explain said situation to the receptionist, and why she needed to call building maintenance. One can avoid that happening by flushing with your foot. |
Over and out.
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Trouble
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That's why I have an iPhone.
I'm reading this on my iPhone ine the shitter. GET OUT OF MY HEAD F13 |
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NiX
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I'm reading this on my iPhone ine the shitter. GET OUT OF MY HEAD F13
Get us out of your bathroom! |
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dusematic
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Yeah. Interface looks crisp as fuck. I got nerd wood.
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dusematic
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Like playing a giant game of Risk (if Risk had any strategy or complexity).
Risk does have strategy and complexity. Nigga, please. That's really all I have to say about that. |
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« Last Edit: September 12, 2010, 05:00:32 PM by dusematic »
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dusematic
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Way to set the bar high there. I can see why the fixed maps would be popular for multiplayer, everyone is theoretically on an even playing field in terms of knowing things they "shouldnt" due to fog of war terrain-wise. In a single-player game it makes for an extra advantage against the AI that you don't really need. Yeah, like I mentioned earlier, I've been out on single player for a long time. I think after I started consistently winning on Monarch, even with the blatant CPU cheating, it just sort of lost its luster. Multi-player is so fucking cutthroat and unpredictable that I'll never look back. Though I do agree with your overarching point.  |
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« Last Edit: September 12, 2010, 05:02:11 PM by dusematic »
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Draegan
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I can't wait can't wait can't wait.
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dusematic
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I'm sort of worried that it may seem a little shallow after playing an expansioned-to-the-hilt Civ 4
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Sky
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Me, too.
But I pre-ordered it on Steam anyway. It's the oldest standing pc gaming tradition I have, buying Civ on launch. Just glad I don't have to drive an hour to get it this time.
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Nevermore
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iPads - best most expensive PDF readers ever invented.
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Over and out.
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iPads - best PDF readers ever invented.
How is that going to fit in my Civ V box? |
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Daeven
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With a bigger, $500 box of course.
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Malakili
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With a bigger, $500 box of course.
Am I a bad person if I would consider buying that? |
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dusematic
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Wait, what do iPads have to do with Civ 5? Sorry for not being in the infinity loop and caring about Apple or its shitty products.
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