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April 26, 2024, 12:18:06 AM

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I agree with a lot of his picks. Fiddle isn't effective against teams that communicate and ward well. Blitzcrank is too squishy to tank effectively and semi-competent players will never be hit with Rocket Grab. Taric has a ranged stun, a killer heal, is a walking Aegis shield, and acts as a mobile BF Sword for the carry at high levels. Amumu is the best tank/initiator in the game. Ez is hard to kill, has great damage, chases well, can poke, and is just generally awesome. Kennen is like a slightly weaker Ez.

Ez is the best ranged physical dps in the game. Ranged physical dps is the dps that does the most dps. He is also virtually immpossible to stop in the hands of a good player thanks to a built in flash and good range. He also can poke very well, farm very well, push back a lane from base and hop around letting him get dragon safely and get in and out of buff spawns quickly and safely.

Also he does epic damage and literally shuts down the majority of other solo mid potential champs.

Tbh Kail, the rest of your list just means you don't play with good enough players, no offense or anything.

Blitz can't do anything against good teams and good champs early game against a good lane combo you hit a grab that isn't to deep tower range backed by a stun and you will take more damage than they do. Late game good teams will use Blitz for free initiation. There are some specialists that still make him work but its an insanely uphill battle.

Taric is a free bf sword for the team, can't be harassed by anything short of the nastiest lane combos will take your tower from L6 on for free if he forces you out of lane and generally is a tanky champ you have to kill. Also true stuns are godlike.

Amumu is the best champ, the only thing that is arguably more important then doing better/moar dps is initiation and nobody initiates a fight better than Amumu. The fact that his damage adds up over the long fights this current meta has produced just means that yeah he fucking rules.

Fiddle and Trynd are terrible against decent players and I dread to think what would happen against pros. Similar to how Jax is viable at low elo but I haven't seen one in for fucking ever at below average.

Kennen and Vlad are guesses at best its too early to tell.

I think Kennen is very viable now, but imo Vlad isn't good enough past lane phase except for being very annoying.

Yeah, Vlad is obnoxious but doesn't have the burst to be really useful in fights. I find him very easy to solo mid against and I'm generally underwhelmed when he's my lane mate.

Quote from: Prospero on August 28, 2010, 11:04:12 AM

Yeah, Vlad is obnoxious but doesn't have the burst to be really useful in fights. I find him very easy to solo mid against and I'm generally underwhelmed when he's my lane mate.

He shouldn't be easy to solo against for most champs because once he can spam Q its almost impossible to overcome his pokes.

I'm usually Annie mid, so once I hit 6 I can this guy looks legit

stun his ass and burn him to the ground. I'm not a fantastic Annie but I've never lost mid to a Vlad. I dunno, maybe they are all terriVlads.

How does any individual 1v1 match up tells us any thing? Ya, vlad isn't about burst damage. So what?

So what is he good for? Except for dying last he's not terribly useful in team fights. He's pretty good at harassing a lane but he doesn't have the damage to seal the deal, and he's easily chased off by any real carry. He's not quite tanky enough to fit in an all tank line up, and he doesn't have the damage to be a carry, and he doesn't have any decent support abilities.

It could be an ELO thing; Vlad's in my ELO might just all suck. I just haven't seen a Vlad that made a sizable contribution to his team.

I think you're overestimating the strength of burst damage. People seem to be going more for beefy AE splooge teams, and for that Vlad's pretty powerful. A lot of the tier 1/2 champions now are tanky disablers (Amumu, Morgana, Nasus, Sion, etc.). They need someone to back them up with some strong sustained dps.

Amumu, Nasus and Sion are strong sustained DPS usually. swamp poop

Never said they weren't.

Team fights can be confusing messes where it's hard to single target. AOE super teams are very powerful for that. Amumu is the king of FUCK YOU initiation, stun, and AOE damage support and can jungle to boot to help his team power through.