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CharlieMopps
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on: January 16, 2010, 06:31:06 PM

Well I'm back...

Got me a baby!  awesome, for real

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Reply #1 on: January 16, 2010, 06:39:57 PM

You stole a baby in Ethiopia?
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Reply #2 on: January 16, 2010, 06:48:10 PM

 shocked
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Reply #3 on: January 16, 2010, 06:56:49 PM

You stole a baby in Ethiopia?

I wish... no... cost me more than a years pay to adopt him. Not to mention the trip was not pleasant. Don't ever go to Ethiopia if you don't have to. 
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Reply #4 on: January 16, 2010, 06:58:52 PM

Congrats, man, that's great news!
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Reply #5 on: January 16, 2010, 07:07:35 PM

Gratz!

Are you sure you're not confusing Ethiopia and Mars?

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Reply #6 on: January 16, 2010, 07:16:34 PM

Awesome!

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Reply #7 on: January 16, 2010, 07:42:53 PM

lol, he's a real ham. He likes to make crazy faces.

We drove about 600km out into the middle of nowhere to meet his birth mother. I promised her that he'd never know hunger, never be cold at night, and he could chose whatever he wanted to be if he put in the effort... Doctor, lawyer, etc... She didn't really care. She said that her family were all farmers and she wanted to be sure that I would keep him in touch with the land. After I explained that there are several farmers in my family and that's where we go on weekends she got really excited, jumped up and started hugging me like crazy. She apparently had this idea that everyone in America lived in the big city. In any event, she was very happy.
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Reply #8 on: January 16, 2010, 08:23:09 PM

Good on you, Mr. Mopps. He looks adorable.

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Reply #9 on: January 16, 2010, 08:35:07 PM

How does an ethiopian baby cost a years salary? Grats and all...I just figured they'd be cheaper.

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Reply #10 on: January 16, 2010, 09:00:13 PM

I'm wondering how you arrived at the decision to adopt and ETHIOPIAN child, as opposed to any other.

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Reply #11 on: January 16, 2010, 09:00:37 PM

How does an ethiopian baby cost a years salary?
Adoption red tape costs a fortune, even in countries you wouldn't expect it to.
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Reply #12 on: January 16, 2010, 09:59:20 PM

Damn, Ethiopia. Bravo to you for setting foot in a country most (including myself) would never venture. Still, good reward, no?

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Reply #13 on: January 16, 2010, 10:09:22 PM

Awesome lookin' little guy - I swear he'll grow into that hairline.
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Reply #14 on: January 16, 2010, 10:32:58 PM

Congrats on getting the prize at the end of the adoption gauntlet!
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Reply #15 on: January 16, 2010, 10:38:37 PM

It's really complicated but basically we're in our 30s and haven't been married that long so we didn't qualify for many programs. Only 3. One was closed, Russia is the most expensive international program there is. Also the kids come out with mental problems because they are so neglected. Ethiopia really takes care of their orphans. It's part of their culture. And the program is relatively cheap.

As far as how it could cost so much...  In the states you are required to take classes, have a social worker visit your house several times (To inspect) you get licenses as a foster parent, etc... each of those things costs a couple hundred dollars. You have to file a bunch of paper work with the government and every time you do there's a fee of anywhere from $100 to $500. The plane tickets alone were $5000. The fee to Ethiopia was $12k Even now that we have him here we had to pay $500 to make him a resident and then have to pay for a social worker to visit every 2 weeks for 6 months, then we have to pay a fee to get his citizenship and pay to change his name and get a SSN. It adds up fast.

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Reply #16 on: January 16, 2010, 10:40:01 PM

Awesome lookin' little guy - I swear he'll grow into that hairline.


Lack of hair has to do with the nutrition there. He's already growing more in.
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Reply #17 on: January 16, 2010, 10:47:12 PM

Gratz. Cute kid.  Sounds like you went through a lot of effort.

My kid cost about that much but that is because we had to have him custom made in a tube. It's worth the dough. awesome, for real

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Reply #18 on: January 17, 2010, 02:46:16 AM

How much of that money do his Ethiopian parents get?

I'm imagining little to none.
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Reply #19 on: January 17, 2010, 05:10:30 AM

That's aweseome Mopps.

Friend of mine is in the early stages himself. Already looking at potentially a second job due to the costs.
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Reply #20 on: January 17, 2010, 05:34:19 AM

And people wonder why kids don't get adopted.

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Reply #21 on: January 17, 2010, 06:49:55 AM

How much of that money do his Ethiopian parents get?

I'm imagining little to none.
Not sure about the US, but in Canada it's illegal for the birth parents to be paid. Something to do with the idea that we shouldn't be able to purchase a human being. The ethics around this stuff get pretty hairy.
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Reply #22 on: January 17, 2010, 07:09:29 AM

Congrats!  What an awesome looking little guy.  We wish you all the best.
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Reply #23 on: January 17, 2010, 08:27:36 AM

How much of that money do his Ethiopian parents get?

I'm imagining little to none.

     Yes, it's illegal to pay the birth parents anything. That would quickly lead to women getting pregnant with the intent to sell the babies... Which actually does happen in some parts of the world.
     The part of the money we pay to the adoption agency however, does get used in her area. They provide womens services like birth control, prenatal care, delivery services, and provided medicines until the children are a certain age (not sure what that is.) They operate the ONLY medical facility within several hundred kilometers of the are our son was born and have the only Dr in the entire region on staff. While the facility is generally for womens services everyone goes there for any type of thing we would go to an emergency room for. While we were at the facility some guys showed up with a man in his 20s that was injured. They had him laying on a donkey cart. I'm pretty sure he had already died on the ride in though. The agency we went through is non-profit and one of the largest in the world (Holt international) there are many other agency that are rather shady. We actually met a few couples that went through other agencies while we were there and I definitely didn't like what I was hearing from them. Things like not being allowed to see the facility your child was kept in should be a huge red flag.

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Reply #24 on: January 17, 2010, 11:42:56 AM

Pretty sure if you do private adoption in the US you don't have to jump through any of the loopholes you previously mentioned, Charlie.  A couple at my last place of employ did exactly that, as did a woman who I'm currently working with.  One through a Catholic charity the other.. I'm not sure but it sounded like just a PA Agency.  The entire process for both was only 9 months because they both found a birth mother who was newly pregnant.     Of course, as I understand it, private adoption runs the risk of the parents wanting the kids back prior to the completion of all the legal stuff.   

Still, grats, he's got a hell of a personality already I see.

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Reply #25 on: January 17, 2010, 12:54:22 PM

I don't know you from Adam, but wanted to congratulate you nevertheless. He's quite handsome :)
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Reply #26 on: January 17, 2010, 01:18:08 PM

Pretty sure if you do private adoption in the US you don't have to jump through any of the loopholes you previously mentioned, Charlie.  A couple at my last place of employ did exactly that, as did a woman who I'm currently working with.  One through a Catholic charity the other.. I'm not sure but it sounded like just a PA Agency.  The entire process for both was only 9 months because they both found a birth mother who was newly pregnant.     Of course, as I understand it, private adoption runs the risk of the parents wanting the kids back prior to the completion of all the legal stuff.   

This is roughly how my adoption apparently went, except through a Temple (since, you know, Jews) rather than a Catholic charity. My adoptive parents got me on day 1. Like a new video game.
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Reply #27 on: January 17, 2010, 01:26:27 PM

And here I thought you were birthed by Awesome itself.
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Reply #28 on: January 17, 2010, 01:28:43 PM

And here I thought you were birthed by Awesome itself.
I might've been, no way to tell, really.
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Reply #29 on: January 17, 2010, 03:14:59 PM

I always like to imagine I was born of a jackal, makes being adopted interesting.

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Reply #30 on: January 17, 2010, 04:43:55 PM

What was/is/will be his name?

If you're stuck for ideas, Agamemnon is a good strong name.

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Reply #31 on: January 17, 2010, 04:55:38 PM

What was/is/will be his name?

If you're stuck for ideas, Agamemnon is a good strong name.



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Reply #32 on: January 17, 2010, 06:26:54 PM

Pretty sure if you do private adoption in the US you don't have to jump through any of the loopholes you previously mentioned, Charlie.  A couple at my last place of employ did exactly that, as did a woman who I'm currently working with.  One through a Catholic charity the other.. I'm not sure but it sounded like just a PA Agency.  The entire process for both was only 9 months because they both found a birth mother who was newly pregnant.     Of course, as I understand it, private adoption runs the risk of the parents wanting the kids back prior to the completion of all the legal stuff.   

Still, grats, he's got a hell of a personality already I see.

yea, but then you have to find a kid to adopt. It's very hard unless you have promiscuous niece.
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Reply #33 on: January 17, 2010, 07:14:34 PM

I doff my hat to you sir.  That is wonderful that you guys adopted.

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Reply #34 on: January 18, 2010, 09:22:12 AM

There's an absurdly long list of worse things you could have got in Ethiopia, so congratulations. ;)

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