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[apocrypha]

Endie, you make the best recruitment posts for any game - no wait, anyTHING - anywhere, ever. CCP should be paying you tbqh 

Tiny question, is it possible yet to change the font sizes drastically in EVE? I ask because the only way I'd ever be able to play it again is if I manage to get a PC connected to the TV, which would mean me trying to read text at 1920x1080 from a distance of ~2m.

[schild]

Endie, you make the best recruitment posts for any game - no wait, anyTHING - anywhere, ever. CCP should be paying you tbqh  

As a counterpoint, if you made it through the whole thing, you probably deserve Eve and it deserves you.

The pictures were nice though.

[Endie]

So whats is being offered for the every day player with the new xpac?

Any [good] UI changes with this update?

The short answer - for those like Schild whose snideness exceeds their attention span - is that the patch notes are here: http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp

Slightly longer answer, including (for Viin) UI changes that will only interest vets:

- The sovereignty system is completely replaced: no more tower warfare, a variety of new structures, timers and mechanics to game and explore.
- The way you make money in 0.0 is being changed, with the start of a series of new system upgrades you anchor as an alliance to make systems hubs for an alliance's members.  They will variously make hidden belts filled with "super ores"; provide improved and more numerous anomalies that are like missions that you can warp to (letting everyone from newbies to teams find ways to make money); guarantee one or more wormhole entrances in a given system at all times; provide DED complexes in your system.  Apparently this system is designed to be expandable and tweakable.  And the more you use a system the better it gets.  Ideally lots and lots of players will be in each system, making for more social 0.0 gameplay.
- There is a new fleet finder: you can see all the fleets you can join and sign up at once, as well as seeing immediately where everyone is so you can get to them.
- Faction ships are now substantially boosted, and new ones added.
- It is now possible to view the content of containers and ships remotely.
- You can now make courier packages as big as a freighter hold.
- Joining a corp can be done without going to their office.
- You always have access to level 1 (quality 0 and less) agents of all factions and corps, regardless of your standings with them.  So you can mission with Blood Raiders in Delve if you decide ratting sicks.
- It is now possible to enable warning sounds for when your shield/armor/hull drop below a certain threshold (threshold for damage notification is customizable from the HUD settings).
- You can turn on logging of loot in fleets.
- Titan doomsdays are focussed on a single target - no more grid-clearing awfulness and you're almost certainluy safe if you're not in a capital.
- A bunch of new epic arcs, agents and missions, including a new type: exploration agents.
- No more tower spam in mail.
- Graphical changes: most notably, the new planets look amazing.
- A new in-game browser based on Google's Chromium tech.
- Skill requirements have changed and a lot of stuff like stealth bombers' bombs are easier to use now.

And the usual ton of little stuff.

[Comstar]

I watched a Titan on fire outside the POS shields in 319. I have seen hundreds of laser glitter in the dark off the PR- gate. In the 2nd Great Eve War I saw a enemy fleet of 400 ships fight three friendly fleets over a space of 1200km and a time span of 5 hours and the amount of drones left in space afterward made the system look like it was filled with a snow storm. The looting afterwards to clean up the wrecks took more than 10 hours. The dominion trailer starts off with a sea of dreadnought and carrier wrecks in space- I've seen such things (and been able to get tackle's on ships that cost over 2 billion in a ship that cost 400 times less than that).  

There's actually often an Aussie-time zone fleet op because our enemies often do stuff around downtime (10pm AEST) so serious business fleets were often working and fighting enemy fleets before and afterwards in our last two wars in the southern areas of Estoria and TPAR station. These fleets were very rarely waiting for action as we had to come in, hit a target or two and get out again in a few minutes and the smallest ships we had, the Frigates, Interceptors and Interdictors were the most important in the fleet because they allowed the FC to target 1 or 2 enemy ships at a time, kill them, and get out again before our enemies could do anything about it.

The 3 biggest UI changes I can see are the Fleet Finder, being able to see in containers remotely, and the warning sounds for shield/armour levels. The Fleet finder should make both forming and joining fleets MUCH easier- you can see at a glance if there's a fleet formed for Homeland Security (going around in a small gang to fight random hostiles in Goonspace, or going into close by enemy territory). The remote container means FINALLY having a nice clean hanger. Also a lot of the old skills like Heat, Cloaks, Archaeology, Hacking and Bombs no longer need a lot of skills at Level V.

NO MORE DOOMSDAYS. It's replaced with a Freespace2-like Beam Cannon/Wave Motion gun that targets single ships and won't be used on anything smaller than another capital ship. Conversely, Stealth Bombers (now also quicker to train for) allow a group of 10-30 tech II frigate pilots play out Death Star trench runs (though it requires a lot of both individual bomber pilots and FC skill and timing to work, which Goonswam has, and our enemies currently don't).

And for anyone who's never played Eve, the Goon-wiki is the BEST and most complete information on the game there is.

[Endie]

And for anyone who's never played Eve, the Goon-wiki is the BEST and most complete information on the game there is.

How did I forget this?

Eve is a game with a lot of breadth (there are many ways to play and things to do) and a lot of depth (player skill and knowledge matters, from fitting out your ship onwards).  The Goonswarm wiki is an absolutely incomparable resource - easily the best in Eve - which can shortcut a lot of the learning, as well as providing a great way to avoid having to work during your time in the office.  There are, at this moment, 1,906 articles in the wiki and it's had over 2.7 million page views.  It's a superb achievement and you'll love it.

Also, nice Bladerunner allusion, Comstr.

[Setanta]

I am only interested in MMOs for the PvP and Meta game these days, which is why I would love to try out Eve properly....

And yes, this is the best recruitment post I have seen....  I am compelled to try it out and this time make sure I get to the PvP    Just might need to find some Aussies to play with...

There are always Aussies on but not all are allianced to Goonswarm. I've spent the last 10 months doing PvP/PvE with Aussie pirates and Empire groups that do losec and 0.0 engagements as well as missioning. There's always someone to talk to if you know where to look.

If only LOVEU had been recruiting when I started EVE - but with the war on I can understand why they were cagey about new members. :)

[lac]

Are those awful SA guys still ruining the game for everybody else?

[Endie]

Are those awful SA guys still ruining the game for everybody else?

Well, we're certainly not very popular with highsec macro-miners if that's what you mean.

And Nerf's only source of income is scamming.

Oh and the new patch is pretty much an implementation of a mixture of ideas from a bunch of us, so if that turns out bad then yes, literally so.

[Murgos]

Are those awful SA guys still ruining the game for everybody else?

To be fair though, if you join you would be one of those awful SA guys ruining the game for everyone else.  Which is much better than being the guy whose game got ruined.

[Amarr HM]

Oh and the new patch is pretty much an implementation of a mixture of ideas from a bunch of us, so if that turns out bad then yes, literally so.

I'm personally claiming IP to the new doomsday, when that turns out to be horrible I expect a backlash on my doorstep. I'm just a pubbie though.

[Nerf]

Are those awful SA guys still ruining the game for everybody else?

Well, we're certainly not very popular with highsec macro-miners if that's what you mean.

And Nerf's only source of income is scamming.

Oh and the new patch is pretty much an implementation of a mixture of ideas from a bunch of us, so if that turns out bad then yes, literally so.

Hey, I shot some stuff in a belt last night...

Granted, it was a hulk, but I'm sure a bounty will show up sooner or later.

[Slayerik]

Between Nerf calling me out in the War room, and this post by Endie I almost have to reactivate an account or two. Great post.

[Draegan]

Are there any good videos/screens of the new shiny graphics?

[Thrawn]

I would probably have to say EvE is my favorite MMO I've played to date, even though I'm currently not playing much.  If anyone reading the thread does drop into the game as a complete newbie drop me a PM on the forums with your name and I'll pass some isk your way.

Just don't get caught in the trap of "Oh, I need to play in empire for a few months until I get the hang of the game." Take the isk, get to our space and start flying with gangs in a cheap tackler ship and get blown up then repeat.  It's the best way to learn.  If you decide you don't like 0.0 so be it, but being used to 0.0 and going to empire is an easy transistion where being used to empire the flying to 0.0 is going to be a complete shell shock.

[Sir T]

When I joined up I was a fairly normal happy person.

Since joining I have developed rampant obesity, type 2 diabetes and chronic insomnia. My family want to have my committed and I can bearly talk without a headset anymore.

So come on and sign up!

[Phildo]

is it possible yet to change the font sizes drastically in EVE?

Yes.

[Gets]

Are there any good videos/screens of the new shiny graphics?

Lots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYBLP9hxWVE - Early planet graphics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC6umiqm3gY - Newer planet graphics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V8OVunp5Sg - New Avatar & Erebus Doomsdays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Jxv4lJSzk - New Ragnarok and Leviathan Doomsdays.

[Soln]

you need to be an SA member to get on the Goon wiki, so you need to buy an SA membership I believe.


yeah ISK is not easy guys.  It sucks to be a new or middling experienced player, sorry.  You need a giant nestegg with each new ship to not only buy, for example, a Raven, but keep the money coming in to have several more on hand.  And the ganking did not abate the last (3rd time) I was back.  Also, I never figured out how to make a jump clone -- to register with your bases you need to move from Empire across several real-time minutes (an hour?) to get to a LOVEU base.

I'll shut up now.

[Slayerik]

You know the basics about local and stuff right?

In all my years playing Eve, and ratting in the pirate infested Venal space, I got ganked once and that was because I was reading on f13 and not paying attention. If you know about local and safespots, you have to screw up or get yourself stuck on a rock to die. Watch your defense channels, and local like a hawk and you'll make mad cash.

[IainC]

you need to be an SA member to get on the Goon wiki, so you need to buy an SA membership I believe.


yeah ISK is not easy guys.  It sucks to be a new or middling experienced player, sorry.  You need a giant nestegg with each new ship to not only buy, for example, a Raven, but keep the money coming in to have several more on hand.  And the ganking did not abate the last (3rd time) I was back.  Also, I never figured out how to make a jump clone -- to register with your bases you need to move from Empire across several real-time minutes (an hour?) to get to a LOVEU base.

I'll shut up now.

No on all counts (except the shutting up part  ).

Any member of Goonfleet (including pubbie corps such as us) get access to the Wiki. Even many of our allies have access.

Money is pretty easy to come by. To begin with you'll be given free PvP ships as well as cash, later on you'll be able to make up a fleet BS loss very quickly: After insurance and reimbursement I am out of pocket by about 30m Isk every time I lose a fleet fit T2 equipped Megathron. That's about an hour or so of slow paced ratting.

You don't need a JC to move down to where we are also, after tomorrow's patch you won't need to find an office. Simply apply to the corp from anywhere, once accepted set your clone to our station and then pod yourself. A second or two later you'll be in the heart of Goonspace.

[palmer_eldritch]

You just need to join the Corp to get access to the wiki - no need for an SA account (I don't have one).

Getting to our space is easy and doesn't involve travel time. You set your medical clone (ie respawn point) to our station and blow yourself up. If you are a veteran player who wants to bring a load of stuff with you then it's a bit more complicated. For new players it's dead easy and someone can talk you through it. Once in our space you can buy what you need and we'll give you isk - much more than any newbie without friends would expect to have.

If you already have a lot of stuff you can just sell it empire space and use the cash to buy replacements in our space or have it bought up in a freighter.

[Simond]

I watched a Titan on fire outside the POS shields in 319. I have seen hundreds of laser glitter in the dark off the PR- gate.

 

[Slyfeind]

Why is this not in the EVE subforum? JustWondering.

This makes me sad because I want to play EVE, but I lost the last time I played. Like, seriously,  just like you might play a hand of cards and lose, because I died so horribly and helplessly to an NPC in a low-level mission.

I felt like I was supposed to cancel and uninstall, so that's what I did. This looks like fun though!

[Slayerik]

People that play or have played Eve hang out there. This is looking like a drive for true noobs. More exposure here I suppose.

[Phildo]

I died half a dozen times on the introductory mission line myself and nearly quit.  In fact, it drove me to play WoW for about a month before I decided to give it another shot.  Having people around to help you figure out the basics of fitting a ship and using the modules on it is really important.  Absolutely no one should start playing this game by themselves without at least a friendly chat channel (not Rookie Help) where they can ask questions.  Make joining the f13 channel your first priority after creating your character and we'll help you get squared away.

[Amarr HM]

My family want to have my committed and I can bearly talk without a headset anymore.

Your spelling isn't the Mae West either.

[Murgos]

It's worth it to do a stint in LOVEU just for the wiki access.  It's basically all the mechanics of Eve the way they really are, without all the misleading ambiguity that floats around the rest of the internet and in game.

[kondratti]

Seems Steam upped the price to $20 before I could get past the first day of the trial.  

I last tried Eve in early 2007, and it is a alot different today.  The Career trainer missions were great and taught me a lot more, and the combat is a lot deeper than I remember it being in 2007.

[Draegan]

If I'm still bored by next weekend I'll give it a shot... again. 

[Ghambit]

After yet another evil endie post I may just have to resub. and rejoin you guys, especially after the station patch releases (when is this coming out btw?).  Alas, all my gear (like 3 big indys and a loaded Dom) is still stuck over by the damned Space Penix.  Is LOVEU still operational in that space?  Or is it totally abandoned for Delve (ironically, my stomping grounds b4 joining the swarm)?

I bet if I relog my entire cache will be floating bits in space.  Buy me a cap. ship and I'll resub.   

[Soln]

Sorry for screwing up the thread.  Some excellent responses though that may help new folks.

I was never ever able to access the Goonwiki.  Waited a couple of weeks, never got in with my account name (from the game).  

One really needs to be taken by the hand in the game when starting out.  And frankly, even after playing repeatedly for awhile.  It was never getting over tier2/3 hump and into 0.0 and <0.2 that did me in.  Buying some ISK on top of the monthly fee is definitely the way to go.  The grind-more-velspar-and-guristas is not realistic.  Anyone joining should take the advice to spend more real cash on time cards.

[Endie]

Why is this not in the EVE subforum? JustWondering.

This makes me sad because I want to play EVE, but I lost the last time I played. Like, seriously,  just like you might play a hand of cards and lose, because I died so horribly and helplessly to an NPC in a low-level mission.

I felt like I was supposed to cancel and uninstall, so that's what I did. This looks like fun though!

It's in this forum for a couple of reasons, but the main one is that we're interested in playing with f13 posters, not with people who read about eve and want to join4guild. We could recruit 100 members in 2 days no bother: everyone seems to want into goonswarm these days. But we don't want them.

[Sir T]

In a serious post, I';ve had a pretty good time in goonswarm. its probably one of the best if not the best alliance to be in in terms of raw fun.

I did a kind of video journal of my adventures in the great war II. Some are better than others.

Starts with this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRGaqqdIHBg

Continues for 10 videos (Good one here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro1mCcEVhHI  )

The fall of BOB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFFnO5oPlWU

And the end of the war http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPMWv_D-2VE

And Part 9 is narrated. Might explain some of the tactics and mechanics involved for those interested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEkd8uf5usA

[grunk]

I had about as much fun watching one of my turds float around in the toilet this morning.

[squirrel]

I will probably grab a trial account to check out the new stuff (well graphics etc.). I gave my old acct away and not sure I want a mmog right now as DA and Torchlight have me busy but who knows!