Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[Azazel]

I haven't been following the development of this game, since the BF franchise has been getting console-centric and the pc version went down to cartoon-town with Heroes.

So it was a nice surprise to see that Bad Company 2 will be on the PC as well.

This was also a nice thing to see/amusing shot at IW & MW2.
http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2009/10/26/dedicated-to-our-pc-players.aspx

[Falwell]

Upwards for new (pretty fucking hot) game play footage...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5lnzScc6ZE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2NpJHOLyj8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vepiJznvvY0 (lots of F-Bombs so possibly NSFW)

Also, you can now pre-order BC2 and get the collectors edition for the regular edition price from most outlets. Includes a bunch of in game goodies detailed here..


Edit: Added 3rd vid

[jakonovski]

giev gaem plx kk

To placate all those who think I'm some inhuman monster, I plan to buy this for the PC and play with a keyboard & mouse!

[tgr]

That does indeed look fap-fap worthy, graphically-wise, but I'm noticing a few things.

1) all of these videos are recorded by a pad-player.
2) I see no prone/crouch
3) I see no lean

I'm hoping that this is just a consequence of the whole deal being filmed on the console. A quick google seems to indicate that this (no prone) has come about because they found the pacing became too slow, and that people couldn't see eachother well enough.

This makes me slightly worried.

[Azazel]

Not balanced for prone?

[jakonovski]

That does indeed look fap-fap worthy, graphically-wise, but I'm noticing a few things.

1) all of these videos are recorded by a pad-player.
2) I see no prone/crouch
3) I see no lean

I'm hoping that this is just a consequence of the whole deal being filmed on the console. A quick google seems to indicate that this (no prone) has come about because they found the pacing became too slow, and that people couldn't see eachother well enough.

This makes me slightly worried.

In the first BC the lack of prone was a function of weak bullets and explosions. Nothing to do with controller choice, simply that they wanted to go more arcade.

[Strazos]

I didn't find the lack of prone to be much of a problem in the first one, either.

[Azazel]

I haven't played the first one. Played plenty of 1942, DC and BF2 though. I can't imagine not being able to go prone, especially as a sniper class or anyone with a decently scoped rifle. I guess it depends how arcadey BC2 is going to be on the PC.

[tgr]

2) I see no prone/crouch

I'm wrong. Just rewatched the snippets, and there's at least crouch. I was beginning to worry that even that was going to be taken out.

[Azazel]

I kinda get it if they remove prone from the console version, but I really hope it's not absent from the PC version as well.

[fuser]

Prone not in console nor is lean, there is a one knee crouch tho.

Anyone else get a key for PS3?

[Lounge]

Prone not in console nor is lean, there is a one knee crouch tho.

Anyone else get a key for PS3?

I've been in for about a week now.  Key's are (or were) relatively easy to come by on various websites.  I'm not crazy about it to be honest.

[Mrbloodworth]

Played plenty of 1942, DC and BF2 though.

Games are not comparable.

[NiX]

Games are not comparable.

Yeah and the lack of prone made it better for sniping. They're trying to avoid having that handful of snipers who are prone, super far away and picking people off who can't do a damn thing about it. It worked great for BC1 and I hope they keep it out of BC2.

[Nonentity]

Did the first Bad Company have the carrot-on-a-stick leveling advancement to unlock stuff?

[NiX]

Yeah, but it wasn't as grueling as Halo or CoD. Also, instead of pre-set items being unlocked, you got a point or two to unlock whatever you wanted.

[Nonentity]

Huh, alright.

I also don't consider the Modern Warfare-esque system that grueling, it keeps me trying new stuff.

Hopefully you'll be able to do attachments and stuff on weapons, that's probably my favorite part of that series.

[Strazos]

Even without prone, I remember sniping being somewhat difficult in BC. Note, that was on the console demo.

[WayAbvPar]

Pretty, but I am not sure I am sold yet. I wish they would just update BF2 instead of trying to copy MW2. Although I can see why they want to do that for sales. It feels too hectic and game-y...I am wondering how big the maps are and if lone sniping is a viable play style. Also saw something about 32 players total for MP? Bleah. That may have been for 1943 though...can't remember where I saw it. The tracer dart pistol unlock listed for the limited edition is fucking sweet though.

[Mrbloodworth]

Sniping kills fun. Most FPS are better with out it (or at least with out it being the dominant play style). Ill take destructible environments over sniping.

[WayAbvPar]

Completely disagree. What kills the fun (on a typical BF2 map at least) is the gross power difference between ground troops/armor and air power. Getting raped repeatedly by jets and attack helis that are just about impossible to kill from the ground with any regularity sucks. Once a player knows a map it is pretty easy to spot all the sniper hiding spots. With the smaller BF2 character models and longer distances (bigger maps), it is still pretty hard to kill guys with one shot unless they stand still for several seconds.

[NiX]

Pretty, but I am not sure I am sold yet. I wish they would just update BF2 instead of trying to copy MW2. Although I can see why they want to do that for sales. It feels too hectic and game-y...I am wondering how big the maps are and if lone sniping is a viable play style. Also saw something about 32 players total for MP? Bleah. That may have been for 1943 though...can't remember where I saw it. The tracer dart pistol unlock listed for the limited edition is fucking sweet though.

They're not trying to copy MW2. It's a very different game in that the maps are a lot like BF2 in size and design. A lot of you need to play BC1 because you say stuff that makes me when you make assumptions based on a video.

Tracer dart was in BC1 and if someone is hurt enough you can kill them with it.

[Mrbloodworth]

Completely disagree. What kills the fun (on a typical BF2 map at least) is the gross power difference between ground troops/armor and air power. Getting raped repeatedly by jets and attack helis that are just about impossible to kill from the ground with any regularity sucks. Once a player knows a map it is pretty easy to spot all the sniper hiding spots. With the smaller BF2 character models and longer distances (bigger maps), it is still pretty hard to kill guys with one shot unless they stand still for several seconds.

Nah. I can deal with those. At least you can see them, and they are limited. However more than half of each team being camping, you will never see them, sniper d-bags? Yeah. not fun.

While everyone else is dealing with running and gunning, cover, and flanking. Snipers sit, usually in inaccessible areas, and rack up kills.

[HaemishM]

Sniping kills fun. Most FPS are better with out it (or at least with out it being the dominant play style). Ill take destructible environments over sniping.

You shut your filthy whore mouth.

[Mrbloodworth]

Sniping kills fun. Most FPS are better with out it (or at least with out it being the dominant play style). Ill take destructible environments over sniping.

You shut your filthy whore mouth.

Inaccessible areas, until they come out the woodwork. 

Snipers can be fun, its the over abundance, and poor level designs that kill it for me.

FPS's are still better for not having it be the dominant play style.

[NiX]

I've never seen it be the dominant playstyle in BC. There's just not enough room for a multitude of snipers. With buildings being destructible and vehicles, it's hard for snipers to just pin down a spot. Not to mention the level design leans towards width and length, so there's room for everyone to go out of the view of where a sniper is watching. They also do a good job of making normal infantry fun. I spent a majority of my time playing, what I guess would be called, a heavy gunner. LMG, mortar strike, med kit and pistol as my setup. I never once felt like someone had an advantage over me.

[WayAbvPar]

Pretty, but I am not sure I am sold yet. I wish they would just update BF2 instead of trying to copy MW2. Although I can see why they want to do that for sales. It feels too hectic and game-y...I am wondering how big the maps are and if lone sniping is a viable play style. Also saw something about 32 players total for MP? Bleah. That may have been for 1943 though...can't remember where I saw it. The tracer dart pistol unlock listed for the limited edition is fucking sweet though.

They're not trying to copy MW2. It's a very different game in that the maps are a lot like BF2 in size and design. A lot of you need to play BC1 because you say stuff that makes me when you make assumptions based on a video.

Tracer dart was in BC1 and if someone is hurt enough you can kill them with it.

I have never played BC- I am just judging by the videos. Between the size of the characters on the screen and the cluttered looking enivronments/maps, it looked a lot more like COD 4 than BF2. COD4 always feels like I am in a firefight in a phone booth- Bf2 (and 1942 before it) always felt roomy (almost too much so on a couple of maps). If they can deliver good gameplay on top of the omg drool graphics I will all over it like stink on a monkey. I just fear the worst with the COD series popularity.

[NiX]

It's a promo video and it's probably heavily focused and scripted, whether they tell you it happened while just playing or not.

[waffel]

Snipers aren't a problem whatsoever in BF2. The PROBLEM with the sniper kit is the fucking claymores + grenades. Most players would rather bunny hop around throwing claymores and nades than snipe anyone. And if a sniper get set up some place it isn't very difficult to listen for where the shots come from and kill him. Or wait for the commander (who can see everyone on the map) to mark the snipers whenever they want.

The thing I'm most worried about in bad company 2 is spawning on ANY squad mate. Its bad enough in BF2 where people chain-spawn on the squad leader over and over and over again, it's going to be straight retarded if you can spawn on any member of the squad (like it was mentioned in a video). Throw in some rezzing (insta-rez to full health after a sniper bullet to the head?) and health packs and you'll have some real unfun shit.

[Strazos]

Yeah, the squad-spawning kind of sucked in BC.

[Nebu]

These games need two things to make me happy: an endurance bar to minimize bunny hopping and a severe penalty to accuracy with anything while moving.  I loved me some BF1942 but the dolphin diving really ruined the fun. 

[Mrbloodworth]

I've never seen it be the dominant playstyle in BC.

Yeah, wasn't talking about bad company, I was speaking broadly.

[Nonentity]

http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-battlefield-bad-company-2-beta/17-1695/

This is a good 22 minutes of footage, if anyone is interested. It looks okay, I dunno. I'm hoping the unlockable stuff has enough variety.

[tgr]

I wish they would start filming on a PC soon, watching that pad-panning all the time is painful. Also I want to see if they've got lean in, or if they're also going to be annoying about it.

[snowwy]

After what EA/Dice just did with BF:Heroes, i have no trust in them doing anything but a fuckhead thing to make more money of this game. "Oh , you wanna play? Here's a DLC that will cost you 10(insert currency here) and will consist of 1 map. 20(insert currency here) to get a superior weapon compared to anything in-game". Bastards!