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Sheepherder
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Yeah I know, heh, good job most of the people I seem to end up pugging with are totally over-geared for heroics. I regularly get out-dps'd by the tank  5/5 Ancestral Knowledge and Elemental Focus.
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Gobbeldygook
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IED is really the only meta gem for healers, sorry.
I'm pretty sure the gem he has isn't active, either. (also it's a TBC cut)
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Shrike
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Yeah I know, heh, good job most of the people I seem to end up pugging with are totally over-geared for heroics. I regularly get out-dps'd by the tank  5/5 Ancestral Knowledge and Elemental Focus. His talents are OK. Mine are a touch different, but there's nothing fundamentally wrong. However, I wouldn't take elemental focus. With a one minute shamanistic rage, you simply don't need it. I'd ditch elemental warding for improved shields, though--especially with t8 or t9 bonuses. The reason tanks are beating his dps is the hit rating. Not having this soft capped is pure death on enhance dps. Even at the horde soft cap (368), hit is still a very good stat to stack (comparable with crit), especially with the high haste and ArP found on the t8/t9 sets and their equivalents. High haste will also make lightning shield and everyting associated with it a much greater comtribution to dps as well.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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The reason tanks are beating his dps is the hit rating. I know, I know :p Playing ~1hr/day really makes you aware of just how much time people sink into this game.
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Shrike
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Hit rating a constant struggle for enhance shaman. Personally, being a JC helps hugely--and keeps the expense down (sorta).
Right now I'm wanting to switch my t8 chest for the t9, but I simply can't do it because I can't make up the huge hit rating loss when you remove the t8 chest. There simply aren't enough sockets for gems and the dps cost is enormous, despite the t9 superiority in (other) basic stats. I have to have both the t9 helm and chest, or I simply can't make the switch. Also, losing my offhand--say, to a certain axe from Onyxia--would cause some gemming issues with hit--and expertise--as well. It never ends. Never.
Still, your chief aim is to get hit to 368 and expertise to 140. This take priority over anything else. Once you hit those numbers, then you have some room to play around with gemming/enchants to optimize dps.
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Mattemeo
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SPriestOnly recently been putting out enough DPS to be worth taking to Uld, and since then I have come to reside in the 3-3.5k dps mark. I am pretty much the only raiding SPriest in the guild though, and we're low on Priests in general, so I took Disc as a second spec but I am neither geared for it nor have settled on a spec, so nyer. PS I am totally ready for a decent staff now plzkthx. Hate 1H/offhand so so much. Fuck you, Ony, for no staff drops. 
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sinij
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I am really disappointed by this thread's contents. Title had such a promise.
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Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end.
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Ratman_tf
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IED is really the only meta gem for healers, sorry.
I'm pretty sure the gem he has isn't active, either. (also it's a TBC cut) It's not. I've been only logging in for raids and thus don't have a ton of cash to keep my gems updated. Although I just got laid off last thursday, so I can play more!  Gah. Between enchants, gems and repairs, raiding downtime is a huge time gobbler.
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« Last Edit: October 04, 2009, 12:22:24 PM by Ratman_tf »
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 "What I'm saying is you should make friends with a few catasses, they smell funny but they're very helpful." -Calantus makes the best of a smelly situation.
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Merusk
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It's not a huge time gobbler. It's 250G a day just running Argent Crusade, and that should only take you 30 mins or so to get the easy ones done. (Things like "Krull is at it again" and "Stop the Aggressors," Kill 15 cultists and the daily "Kill this dude." OFten you can get some of the longer flight ones done at the same time. If you want to extend it out to an hour to an hour and a half you can get all the Argent Crusade quests AND the ones on your Faction's skyship done.
Unless you're on a PVP server.. then I can see it taking forever.
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Nebu
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Just delete the one that has you harpoon the sea monster guy. God that quest makes me crabby.
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Merusk
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Really? Why? That's one of the easiest ones, imo.
Yes, it IS a little bit of a pain if the Kraken keeps spawning in front of you. The solution is target it as soon as you can see it and spam your harpoon key. You'll fire off at least 2-3 shots before he goes under. There's enough passes around the area that you can get your 8 shots in even if this is the case.
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Lakov_Sanite
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SPriestOnly recently been putting out enough DPS to be worth taking to Uld, and since then I have come to reside in the 3-3.5k dps mark. I am pretty much the only raiding SPriest in the guild though, and we're low on Priests in general, so I took Disc as a second spec but I am neither geared for it nor have settled on a spec, so nyer. PS I am totally ready for a decent staff now plzkthx. Hate 1H/offhand so so much. Fuck you, Ony, for no staff drops.  Embrace of the spider is a horrible trinket for spriests, the haste is just not worth it. you're much better off with the crit/spellpower badge trinket than anything with haste. Also you're about 19 points under the hit cap which may not seem like much but can hurt you over long fights. Actually, just put icewalker on your poots, that should be all the hit you need plus a little crit. it's a really cheap enchant being one of the early northrend ones. Run heroic toc as much as you can for the dagger as well, much better than your weapon and probably a lot easier to get than any other upgrade. Your spec is fine, that's pretty much the only real pve spriest spec anyways.
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Soulflame
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Just delete the one that has you harpoon the sea monster guy. God that quest makes me crabby.
Do this with another person, and you can get another 13g if you kill the kraken. One of my more favorite quests out of that mess.
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Ratman_tf
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God! I put an IED in there! ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW? 
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Merusk
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God! I put an IED in there! ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW?  No!
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Mattemeo
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Embrace of the spider is a horrible trinket for spriests, the haste is just not worth it. you're much better off with the crit/spellpower badge trinket than anything with haste. Also you're about 19 points under the hit cap which may not seem like much but can hurt you over long fights. Actually, just put icewalker on your poots, that should be all the hit you need plus a little crit. it's a really cheap enchant being one of the early northrend ones. Run heroic toc as much as you can for the dagger as well, much better than your weapon and probably a lot easier to get than any other upgrade.
Your spec is fine, that's pretty much the only real pve spriest spec anyways.
Embrace of the Spider is there mostly for the big fat 98 spellpower - I could swap it out for a passive hit trinket, though that's got a haste proc too. I used to be massively over the hit-cap (we're talking hit in the 400s) but since Ulduar gear upgrades are bizarrely missing hit, it's slowly leeched out of my build. I wear a heroic ToC drop hat during raids to cap hit, though. Thanks for the ideas and the tip on Icewalker, might save me having to use a hit trinket at this rate!
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SurfD
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It's not a huge time gobbler. It's 250G a day just running Argent Crusade, and that should only take you 30 mins or so to get the easy ones done. (Things like "Krull is at it again" and "Stop the Aggressors," Kill 15 cultists and the daily "Kill this dude." OFten you can get some of the longer flight ones done at the same time. If you want to extend it out to an hour to an hour and a half you can get all the Argent Crusade quests AND the ones on your Faction's skyship done.
Unless you're on a PVP server.. then I can see it taking forever.
Hmm, My server is PVP, and i can usually do all of the Argent tournament dailys in about 45 minutes. I often skip the joust 4 champions one, but i do all the rest, never seems to take that long (also depends on if you have to do Snobolds or Jormungar eggs for the "keep the Beasts happy" daily.
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Delmania
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While I know I could find this out for myself, I thought I'd ask it anyways. Is it possible to do the valiant and champion quests at the same time? I opened up the champion quests via the Undercity, but it seems to open up the heirloom vendor in the AT, I need to the remaining cities. I want to do dailies to try and drum up cash for 300 riding skill, as well as get some heirloom items, and if I can do both quest lines, it would be great.
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Drubear
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Re: Valiant and Champs.
Yes, there's no overlap in the quests although they are done in roughly the same area. The Valiant quests are city specific, while the Champs are not.
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sickrubik
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Zam, zee mageCurrently in the middle of regemming/building, but close to getting my T8 hat, so i stopped for that moment. It's fine to replace gems that cost 15-30g, but when you start thinking of replacing the epic gems it starts to make me double and triple rethink things.
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Phunked
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I don't get the attitudes here. "Omg I play an hour a day so I'm too poor to buy decent gear. And yeah I know I'm missing enchants, but fuck that shit, I don't play enough".
I'm also fairly positive tons of you are sitting on boatloads of money. How many of you actually can't afford the 5-600g required to gem and enchant your junk and how many don't want to because you never do PvE where anyone gives a shit about that?
There's a pretty fundamental psychological aversion in most humans to avoid half-assing shit which is probably why so many of the explanations aren't "I'm too lazy/cheap/don't care enough" but instead "I don't have enough time".
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bhodi
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No lie.
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Epic gems can be bought with heroism tokens you bunch of wankers. VoA, Naxx, Ulduar, ToC 10 man all net you tokens enough to buy tons of gems.
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Soulflame
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Not to mention 10k honor nets you tokens as well. Twenty minutes in WG often nets me 20k honor. Plus you can turn in stone shards for honor as well.
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Rasix
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Not to defend the bads, but when you play on a truly limited basis, there's not a lot you can get done.
Heroism tokens buying epic gems doesn't mean much if you don't play enough to run a heroic. WG will net you 20k honor once, maybe twice a week (the quest resetting is a bit wonky) and sometimes doesn't fall within windows people can play (I've had this happen a few times). Stoneshards require the previous two.
As for me, I have plenty of money for what I do. I could deck a chosen toon in the best BOE money could buy. I choose not to: heroics don't require it. I don't raid. Gemming/enchanting is easy for me because I have toons that can do it.
edit: now, if there were a lovely, expensive BOE 2handed axe, I'd be there.
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« Last Edit: October 06, 2009, 09:59:50 AM by Rasix »
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-Rasix
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Nebu
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Not to defend the bads, but when you play on a truly limited basis, there's not a lot you can get done.
Grinding faction to buy quartermaster loot, playing BG's and WG, and leveling alts. That's about the options when you have a life that doesn't allow for scheduled play. I pve in honor/WG gear because that's the best I'll ever be able to have. It's sufficient.
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Thrawn
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"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the Universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
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Drubear
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Not to defend the bads, but when you play on a truly limited basis, there's not a lot you can get done.
Grinding faction to buy quartermaster loot, playing BG's and WG, and leveling alts. That's about the options when you have a life that doesn't allow for scheduled play. I pve in honor/WG gear because that's the best I'll ever be able to have. It's sufficient. This. Now that this has been posted I'll even post my solo toon: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Drenden&n=Waalber Fitted by faction and honor gear - I don't think he's ever been in a dungeon - forget heroics. I'm about to hit exalted on KT >>with daily questing alone<<. There should be an Achievement for that...
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Soulflame
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That's a lot of cooking, fishing, and JC dailies. 
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Drubear
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That's a lot of cooking, fishing, and JC dailies.  He does herbing and alchemy. No JC. And yes, yes it is a lot of dailies.  He's exalted with the walrus' too. Lubs that fishin' pole. p.s. the cooking hat is >>verra<< nice. Insta cook. Now what to do with all those extra tokens?
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« Last Edit: October 06, 2009, 10:18:57 AM by Drubear »
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Nebu
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I consider catching Ironjaw, all of the fountain coins, and my chef's hat to be my most significant achievements to date!
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"Always do what is right. It will gratify half of mankind and astound the other."
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Drubear
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Coins: talk about your hardcore casual! That's even too grindy for >>Me<<!!
Well played sir, well played.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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I seem to have slid down the path of fishing... mainly because Salty Gorgeous would just be too good 
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dd0029
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I am not to sure how accurate the Armory stats thing is. Checking my DK, I see:
Most deadly Lich King dungeon boss - Lavanthor (9)
I can't recall every dying to the dog boss in VH, much less 9 times. Really, how does anyone die to the dog boss in VH?
And I have died many times in Ulduar, but not a single death listed.
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Rasix
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That's a lot of cooking, fishing, and JC dailies.  My shaman did revered->exalted on with KT only through doing fishing and cooking dailies. Mostly just on fishing really. Didn't even know I was close when it dinged. 
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Delmania
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Coins: talk about your hardcore casual! That's even too grindy for >>Me<<!!
Well played sir, well played.
How do you expect people to reach 450 fishing?
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