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Azazel
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on: September 21, 2009, 07:22:24 PM

So with all this talk of keyloggers and such hidden in flash ads, I'm wondering where the best place is to go get some mods from these days?

I'm only after a few - Chatlink, Tomtom and Lightheaded, Omen (if that's what people are still using).
Maybe Gatherer or gathermate, and Cartographer.

Also, bejeweled and anything else Popcap have put out since Jan.

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Reply #1 on: September 21, 2009, 07:30:17 PM

Most of the big addons have their own sites. I know that Auctioneer/ Gatherer does as does Popcap.   Curse is still pretty safe as far as I'm aware.

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Reply #2 on: September 21, 2009, 07:49:48 PM

I've been using Curse the past few months with no issues.

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Reply #3 on: September 21, 2009, 08:50:30 PM

I've been using Curse forever with the same damn password as I opened the account with (until 2 weeks ago, felt like I should change it).   Never been hacked.

I do, however, run Firefox with NoScript now.

For reference I run:

Bagnon
ButtonFacade
ClassTimer
Clique
CooldownCount
DBM
Dominos
Elkano's Buffbars (don't really like this mod)
GatherMate + GatherMate_data
Grid + one layout mod for it
Mapster
MikScrollingBattleText
NeedToKnow
Omen
PitBull Unit Frames 4.0
Quartz
QuestHelper
RatingBuster
Recount

We really should do a thread of post your UI w/ screenshots.  I really like looking at others set ups, include the insane folks with like 5 visible buttons and the rest memorized keymappings. My DK UI was really nice until I stopped playing him and didn't bother redoing it when my HD went bad.



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Reply #4 on: September 22, 2009, 12:16:31 AM

I've been using the Curse updater for ages now, no problems at all.

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Reply #5 on: September 22, 2009, 11:55:46 AM

No Auctioneer?  I'm surprised. 

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Reply #6 on: September 22, 2009, 01:02:09 PM

What's Gathermate do? And Omen? And ratingbuster....

Heck, which ones would you recommend for a solo/5-man instance hunter?

And is auctioneer still out there, because it was one of the few mods I used a lot and I rather like it. I made a heck of a lot more money once I had it installed, since I'd have a good idea of whether to vendor or auction something.
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Reply #7 on: September 22, 2009, 01:36:17 PM

Omen is a threat meter. It's pretty much one of the most used mods out there.

Ratingbuster is an add on that will give you an actual percentage beside a listed rating on a item. Hit rating 25 (1.2%) or whatever.

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Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 01:39:50 PM

Recount, because retarded hunters who want DPS reports but can't be arsed to download a mod deserve to be cleansed from the gene pool. Shaking fist
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Reply #9 on: September 22, 2009, 02:15:01 PM

Recount, because retarded hunters who want DPS reports but can't be arsed to download a mod deserve to be cleansed from the gene pool. Shaking fist
You're talking to a hunter who keeps forgetting to turn of Viper, and thus spends most of his 5-man time doing only 60% damage. At least I remember for bosses. Oh, and I'm BM specced.

DPS reports are rarely something I care about. But I might grab it. I really need to do something about my massively cluttered action bars.

I do need Omen, and I guess I need to find a safe site to D/L auctioneer. I miss auctioneer.
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Reply #10 on: September 22, 2009, 02:39:09 PM

Recount, because retarded hunters who want DPS reports but can't be arsed to download a mod deserve to be cleansed from the gene pool. Shaking fist

I could give a rat's ass about my DPS.  I had to download that stupid fucking mod so that I could get into 5-man pugs. 

I can roll my face across my keyboard as well as any hunter out there.  I don't need a mod to tell me this. 

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Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 08:18:44 PM

You're talking to a hunter who keeps forgetting to turn of Viper, and thus spends most of his 5-man time doing only 60% damage. At least I remember for bosses. Oh, and I'm BM specced.

It's the asking every fucking pull that pisses me off, particularly because they obviously know the name of the fucking mod is, and what it does, and want it's data constantly.  "Oh, look, I volleyed trash!  AWESOME!"  It's always fucking hunters, DK's, and ret paladins who ask too.

Personally, I find it invaluable to evaluate why people are failing.  Like one druid I caught with 40% of their heals being Nourish and 20% Wild Growth when DPS were keeling over seconds into Black Knight stage 3.
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Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 09:06:16 PM

You're talking to a hunter who keeps forgetting to turn of Viper, and thus spends most of his 5-man time doing only 60% damage. At least I remember for bosses. Oh, and I'm BM specced.

It's the asking every fucking pull that pisses me off, particularly because they obviously know the name of the fucking mod is, and what it does, and want it's data constantly.  "Oh, look, I volleyed trash!  AWESOME!"  It's always fucking hunters, DK's, and ret paladins who ask too.

Personally, I find it invaluable to evaluate why people are failing.  Like one druid I caught with 40% of their heals being Nourish and 20% Wild Growth when DPS were keeling over seconds into Black Knight stage 3.
Hey, last time I raided -- which was MC back right before Naxx -- I had threat meters and "Oh fuck, so and so is about to do such and such" moniters and all that jazz. Not that I really needed it, because I wasn't an idiot. All I need is for someone to flat-out tell me what the boss fight is like, and what my role is.

That's it. "Pull this guy to this tank, then hand-over aggro" or "Start slow, don't DPS until I give the signal, then stop all attacks when I give the second signal" or "For the love of fucking God, get behind the fucking pillars when it says X".

I don't care where I place on the DPS meters unless it's a case of "Your DPS is way too low, we're having real problems because of it". Then I'll want to see DPS meters, so I can figure out what I'm doing wrong. Otherwise, I just do my job -- mow down targets in the order I'm given, keep my pet from stealing aggro from the tanks, use my pet and traps to protect the squishes if they pull aggro.

And kill every motherfucking rogue I see, just on general principles. I hate rogues. I have one, and he hates himself.
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Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 09:36:15 PM

I don't care where I place on the DPS meters unless it's a case of "Your DPS is way too low, we're having real problems because of it". Then I'll want to see DPS meters, so I can figure out what I'm doing wrong.

Recount doesn't pick up moves that don't incur damage unless they miss.  I discovered this when inspecting an underperforming Fury warrior, when I found one of his casts of taunt had missed Gruul the Dragonkiller. swamp poop
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Reply #14 on: September 23, 2009, 08:25:32 AM

There are three major places to go - www.curse.com, www.wowinterface.com, and www.wowace.com. Just get the curse client, it has most mods and makes it easy to update shit. Keep with the 'free' don't subscribe.

I'm a huge fan of mods. Since I'm responsible for telling people they suck, to flask, to eat, to manage the guild bank, to be a good healer, I need a lot of mods. Here's a list and what they do for me:

Bartender4 - Replaces your hotbars, you can move them around, scale them, and it has a really quick and easy keybinding mode (mouse over, hit desired key, it assigns that button to that key). Needed for a "cleaner" UI

AG_Unitframes - Replaces your bar, your target, target of target, party, and raid frames. I like to strip all the graphics and stuff out of it and move it to the center under my character so you don't have to look at the top left to see if you're going to die. This is really helpful on larger screens (I play on a 24 inch widescreen). Also has a cool thing where it puts buffs/deubffs above or below the health bar, makes it easy to watch your buffs/debuffs without, again, looking in the upper right.

FuBar - Just a bar at the top of the screen you can attach stuff to. I attach the time, latency, and GuildFU which I use every day. GuildFu allows you to mouseover and see who is online, what their guild title is (member, alt, officer, initiate?) and has a checkmark by their name if they are in the raid. This is for a qucik at-a-glance of who's left when you are doing raid invites.

Quartz - This thing can replace your cast bar, buffs, and do a whole bunch of other shit. I just use it to replace my cast bar and to put the estimated "latency" in it so I can chain cast better.

PowerAuras Classic - A highly configurable HUD-type overly you can put on or over your character on other parts of the screen. Can light up, make noise, display stuff on a variety of events.  I use it specifically to make an annoying noise and pop up a big icon when my power infusion is ready to be used and while in combat. I know a friend who uses it for icy veins as a mage. It's good for trinkets and other stuff you should be using every cooldown and for cooldown tracking (whereas NeedToKnow is only actve buffs/debuffs, this tracks when shit is READY to be used). I'm going to be expanding the configuration of this next time I do an addon refresh to track my prayer of mending cooldowns and other things. Some rogues use it for combo points.

NeedToKnow - Buff/Debuff timer/tracker - it's great to track procs for all my different chars - it tracks art of war for my pally, my rupture for rogue, trinket procs for my spriest (to re-apply SW:P) and my haste procs for my healing priest. One of the best, simplest mods out there. set the name, set if it's a buff/debuff, and you get a bar that looks like a casting bar in reverse. This is my most recommended mod for people who have trouble knowing when to Slam! and watch/refresh lava burst / insect swarm / sunder armor / whatever on the mob. If you haven't used this, you should - it's very very easy to configure and since all characters have SOMETHING they need to track and then do when something procs, or to keep a debuff/damage on your current target, most classes can get something out of this.

Healbot/Grid+Clique - Raid party frames - As a healer, I cannot live without one of these mods. Grid is a PITA to configure but I like it a lot better than healbot. More configuration = more options = more better. One of these days I'm going to write up a configuration document to get grid to look "roughly" like healbot. For those who haven't used it, you basically left click on someone and it casts a spell on them, right click and it casts a diff spell, shift click, you get the idea. One of these are pretty much mandatory for a healer. Grid only displays the character so you need clique to do the click-to-cast bit. healbot is an all-in-one sort of thing. Grid gives you some things that healbot can't, and it therefore superior for raiding. There are a ton of aux mods like GridRaidDebuffs and GridWhatever that add additional functionality.

Auctionator - auction shit - Drop auctioneer, it's too bloated and hard to use. 99% of people only need the functionality that auctionator provides. It's pretty awesome, it does undercutting, bulk bids, all that shit.

Omen - Threat meter - This is only needed for my rogue. It's good to know when you should dump aggro by vanishing or lay off the damage, especially if you're pugging and you have a tank and you don't know how good he is. It will save you some repair bills. In a raid, or with a tank you know is good, you probably don't need this unless you've pulled aggro by accident a few times.

Recount - That dreaded damage meter. Good if you know how to use it. I don't tend to use it for damage as I'm too busy RAIDING to pay attention. Post-raid, I look at our worldoflogs uploads which are more in-depth anyway. It has some cool things and features but I mostly use it to see casting breakdowns to tell priests to use prayer of mending more, more dispells, see if they need more +hit (if they are wiffing) and other shit like that.

RBS - Raid Buff Status - A little bar that tells me when people haven't buffed, haven't eaten, if crusader aura is up, haven't poisoned their weapons, haven't flasked, don't have inner fire, earth shield, vigilance up, shit like that. It's very helpful if you are in a leadership position. One click to whisper them, one different click to call them out in raid. Great to get people to eat that fish feast.

Utopia - buff/debuff tracker - This one tracks raid-wide buffs/debuffs according to the blizzard formulae. Basically, there is an icon for each type of buff/debuff that a raid or their target can get from the various classes which is updated in realtime. +AP, +damage, +haste, -healing, that kind of thing. Helpful in two ways - one, in putting together a raid I can see at a glance if for example we need a paladin to go ret or a druid to go moonkin to give us 3% haste 3% damage that kind of thing. It's useful to see if our shamans didn't work out who drops which totem and if we aren't getting the +5% spell haste one if they are both dropping windfury, and if our warriors aren't keeping up sunder armor.

Acheron - Death Tracker - This handy little mod tracks deaths and how people died. This allows you to do a quick drilldown into the last few seconds of someone's life - you can see the damage they took, the healing they took, and it's critical to see HOW someone died when they say "I dunno, I just fell over". You fell over because you had 10 stacks of biting cold and were taking 5k/sec, because you didn't jump or move, idiot. Or, the tank just died was it random? Oh look, he took two 25k impales in half a second. No, it's not healer's fault, it was just bad luck. (Or the flipside, you can see that all the rejuvs fell off of the tank). Very very useful.

Questhelper+TomTom+Tourguide - Is great for leveling my paladin.  Questhelper shows you in what area the mobs you need to kill are and can do breadcrumb trails telling you optimal paths. TomTom is a nice arrow pointing you to whatever destination and can also put markers on your map. Tourguide is a leveling guide which walks you from quest to quest in an optimal fashion and uses tomtom to point you to where you need to go. It seriously cuts down leveling time if you just want to turn your brain off and get to 80.

EventHorizon - shadow priest dot tracker - I use it to keep track of my shadow priest dots. It's a bunch of bars in a window. It works for me, I like it, some don't.

PallyPower - Paladin buff coordinator - If you are a paladin and you don't have this, you are wrong and need to download it. Period. This is completely mandatory and every other paladin in the raid will hate you, either vocally or silently, if you don't have it.

DeadlyBossMods - Raid boss shit - Tells you to stay out of the fire or when the boss is casting a spell that you need to dispel / get out of the way of / do something with. Mandatory for serious raiders.

SCT - Scrolling Combat Text - It does what it says it does. It puts pretty numbers above your head, it's useful to see if you get heals or take damage or when your stuff is up, I found it's just screen clutter and I RARELY use it at all, even as a healer, so it will probably go away or be severely stripped back in the next incarnation of my UI.

RatingsBuster - Item breakdown compares your curernt item to your mouseover potential upgrade. Useful to see the tradeoffs and if something is an upgrade without doing serious math in your head.

DrDamage - Shows the average/min/max damage of your mouseovered spell. Useful to make my e-peen grow to see how big my bubbles are now (PW:S is currently @ just over 7k shield + 2-4k instant heal, rawr!)
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Reply #15 on: September 23, 2009, 09:40:18 AM

I forgot.  I have PallyPower, too, but since I don't raid (hate it!), I don't notice it much.  I'll try out Tourguide, though, for some alts I've had lying around for way too long. 

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Reply #16 on: September 23, 2009, 11:34:14 AM

Acheron - Death Tracker - This handy little mod tracks deaths and how people died. This allows you to do a quick drilldown into the last few seconds of someone's life - you can see the damage they took, the healing they took, and it's critical to see HOW someone died when they say "I dunno, I just fell over". You fell over because you had 10 stacks of biting cold and were taking 5k/sec, because you didn't jump or move, idiot. Or, the tank just died was it random? Oh look, he took two 25k impales in half a second. No, it's not healer's fault, it was just bad luck. (Or the flipside, you can see that all the rejuvs fell off of the tank). Very very useful.

Recount has this functionality built into it now as well, just go to the deaths counter page and click on someone's name to see the last X seconds they were alive.  Not sure if Acheron offers any additional features, but if not you could reduce the redundancy by getting rid of it.
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Reply #17 on: September 23, 2009, 12:22:35 PM

Well, it's more convenient in that it ranks by time, so if you don't remember exactly who died you can look back and sort. It also lets you paste which I'm not sure that recount lets you. It might offer additional functionality but I've only recently downloaded it and have only tried it in one or two raids. I may dump it if I find that it's rarely used or if I find similar functionality elsewhere.
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Reply #18 on: September 24, 2009, 04:29:46 AM

Well, it's more convenient in that it ranks by time, so if you don't remember exactly who died you can look back and sort. It also lets you paste which I'm not sure that recount lets you. It might offer additional functionality but I've only recently downloaded it and have only tried it in one or two raids. I may dump it if I find that it's rarely used or if I find similar functionality elsewhere.

Recount lets you report any of the pages into any channel or whisper to people.  The sort thing you'd have to pick the fight from the drop-down list and you'd see who died but not when.. unless I missed that bit.

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