Hate Pugs? You'll hate them even more now!

[Sjofn]

And yeah, I've tanked more as my druid lately. Although I've done a lot of healing with him too! Druids are rad. I shoulda leveled him first. 

[Fordel]

Both you and Ingmar let TEAM DRUID down :(

[Sjofn]

We seriously did. But we are both 80 now! TEAM DRUID CAN RIDE AGAIN.

[apocrypha]

Back to the whole cross-server LFG & instance groups, I am totally in favour of this.

Trying to get groups for anything except heroics and 10-mans on my server is a total nightmare, let alone anything outside of Northrend. If this happens and it works then it might make some of that easier for people who aren't in a big guild and/or are on a low-pop faction.

However, after 5 years Blizzard still haven't made a decent LFG tool so I don't doubt that they'll fuck this up somehow too 

[Arrrgh]

Back to the whole cross-server LFG & instance groups, I am totally in favour of this.

Trying to get groups for anything except heroics and 10-mans on my server is a total nightmare, let alone anything outside of Northrend. If this happens and it works then it might make some of that easier for people who aren't in a big guild and/or are on a low-pop faction.

However, after 5 years Blizzard still haven't made a decent LFG tool so I don't doubt that they'll fuck this up somehow too 

It covers all the basics now. What else should it do to be "decent"?

[Der Helm]

So, where does someone find a guild these days ?

I have been playing on and off since release but never really tried the alliance side and now I want to give it a look before the cataclysm.

[Soulflame]

LFG across servers will make little to no difference, because there are never enough tanks and healers to go around.

[apocrypha]

It covers all the basics now. What else should it do to be "decent"?

For starters it shouldn't have any restrictions on what dungeons you can flag yourself as LFG for. I've still got DTK, AN, etc quests on my 80s but I can't flag myself LFG for them? Stupid.

DoaC was launched, what, 4 years before WoW and it had a far superior LFG tool.

[Soulflame]

You can complete those quests on Heroic difficulty.

[Hindenburg]

It covers all the basics now. What else should it do to be "decent"?

For starters it shouldn't have any restrictions on what dungeons you can flag yourself as LFG for. I've still got DTK, AN, etc quests on my 80s but I can't flag myself LFG for them? Stupid.

DoaC was launched, what, 4 years before WoW and it had a far superior LFG tool.

What else?

[Sjofn]

So, where does someone find a guild these days ?

I have been playing on and off since release but never really tried the alliance side and now I want to give it a look before the cataclysm.

You could join us on Doomhammer, although if you're not a big fan of soloing, you might get lonely in our guild. We're (mostly) pretty mellow at least? I think? Maybe you should ask Lantyssa.

[Nonentity]

I will preface this post by saying that I played a warrior to 60 in beta, got a warrior to 60 in retail, then got ANOTHER warrior to 80 now, and it's my main. Needless to say, I've played the warrior a LOT - tank, dps, pvp, whatever.

Tanking with the warrior is NOT FUN. I avoid it if I can get away with it. I have a druid at 80, and that character is a lot more fun to tank with in every way. They really just need to redesign warrior tanking from scratch, but they'll never do that. At least block is being changed to a flat % now, and all tanks are getting a Survival of the Fittest type talent. Maybe that will help.

[Ingmar]

Obviously it is a brain chemistry thing. I  tanking with my warrior, with the exception of the HS spam issue.

[Nevermore]

I've tanked with both a DK and a Druid and I found bear tanking to be deadly boring.  Powerful, but dull.  At least compared to the DK.  Which is funny because Druid cat is one of the most complex dps characters and is far, far from dull.

[Lantyssa]

You could join us on Doomhammer, although if you're not a big fan of soloing, you might get lonely in our guild. We're (mostly) pretty mellow at least? I think? Maybe you should ask Lantyssa.

It's lonely.  Pretty mellow.  I'm still a spaz who rambles on in gchat.

I know almost nothing about their raiding.  The most I've done is a few lower level instances with a tiny subset of the guild.  (Partly due to level differences, partly due to my own social anxiety.)

[AutomaticZen]

Ah, Doomhammer.  See I asked what server people were on and no one said anything.  

Mountain Time and it's PVE.  Excellent.  No jackholes killing you in the middle of an escort quest.

Horde or Alliance?

[tazelbain]

I am going to say Doomhammer as well.  Not that I have ever played WoW, it's just sounds like the server I'd play on if I did.

[Hindenburg]

Horde or Alliance?

Alliance, guild's Slap in the Face. Tabard's a crying bear.

Also, no one answered because you're black, obv.

[AutomaticZen]

Alliance, guild's Slap in the Face. Tabard's a crying bear.

Also, no one answered because you're black, obv.

On the bright side, my African-American genetics give me a long stride and powerful endurance, ensuring that no matter where you hide, I shall find you.

Alliance, hrmm.  Guess I may try a Draenei as I prefer Paladin, and refuse to play human again.

[Jayce]

On the bright side, my African-American genetics give me a long stride and powerful endurance, ensuring that no matter where you hide, I shall find you.

Alliance, hrmm.  Guess I may try a Draenei as I prefer Paladin, and refuse to play human again.

There's Dwarf pallies too.  Best Alliance race.

[Ingmar]

Since the thread has gone in this direction I should probably put out some caveats before people decide to go crazy and reroll or transfer or whatever. For some of you there would probably be some culture shock involved just because we're probably much more PC than most (if 'fags' or 'gay' are part of your normal vocabulary you should probably not bother, for example, same with racist/sexist BS, etc., we are a pretty diverse group and I won't put up stuff that might make people feel attacked or uncomfortable, swearing is fine though  ), we tend as a group to be pretty liberal politically which is a problem for some, we don't PVP much as a group (although if someone wants to organize that sort of thing they're more than welcome to) and we have a very, um, WIDE range of skill levels (if WoW had an "Awful Fittings" thread you could find plenty of them in our guild). If you're interested in any kind of speedy cutting edge progression we're probably not an excellent choice. We tend to play 'late' by US player standards; the peak hours for the guild are around 7-10 pm Pacific.

I'd hate for someone to spend a bunch of money on a transfer and then find out that we're not a good match, and I'd also hate for any kind of didn't-get-along-with-our-guild kind of drama to spill back over to here.

Also I'd like to remind people that are already *in* the guild to please try to avoid turning this forum into Inside Joke Land since there are plenty of other readers here and it just wastes their time.  

All that said, this is the guild: http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Doomhammer&gn=Slap+in+the+Face

Thorgrim is me and if you end up on Doomhammer and want to give it a try send me a tell.

EDIT: Also we don't currently raid 25s, only 10s, if that is important to you.

[Hindenburg]

There's Dwarf pallies too.  Best Alliance race.

I dream of the day when the female dwarves and orcs will rebel, creating their own faction. It'll be glorious.

But yes, dwarves = best alliance race.

[Sjofn]

Also I'd like to remind people that are already *in* the guild to please try to avoid turning this forum into Inside Joke Land since there are plenty of other readers here and it just wastes their time.  

Whatever, you're not the boss of me!


Also, Tazelbain, we did pretty much pick Doomhammer because the name is rad.

[kildorn]

He's pretty much taunting us into turning this into inside joke land.

[Nonentity]

Mmmmmaybe I'll make a character on Doomhammer so I can hang out during off hours.

A DWARF FEMALE, PERCHANCE?

[Hindenburg]

I'll try to follow any newcomers to DH, created a shammy a few hours ago, will see how it goes.

[Selby]

Oh so tempting.  I like that fag isn't allowed in guild chat as I lost that lobby with my current guild ;-)

But... Alliance =P  I haven't ever made it very far as one of them and don't know how much fun it would be (obviously lots from the many people who play Alliance ;-) ).

[AutomaticZen]

I have created Safehammer of Doomhammer!  Since all my normal names were gone.  It'll be a nice off-character to play and relax.

[Azazel]

However, after 5 years Blizzard still haven't made a decent LFG tool so I don't doubt that they'll fuck this up somehow too 

It covers all the basics now. What else should it do to be "decent"?

Has it changed since February? Because even that recently, the one EQ1 had in before WoW's launch was better...

[apocrypha]

For starters it shouldn't have any restrictions on what dungeons you can flag yourself as LFG for. I've still got DTK, AN, etc quests on my 80s but I can't flag myself LFG for them? Stupid.

DoaC was launched, what, 4 years before WoW and it had a far superior LFG tool.

What else?
[/quote]

Well I've been thinking about this.

What I'd like is a lot more information. I envisage something split into 2 panels, top panel showing everyone flagged LFG, they're locations, what dungeons/quests they're wanting to group for, their class and level obviously, but a quick way to see talent specs and even gear wouldn't go amiss. Also if you flag yourself LFG you should be able to add a short note of some kind saying anything you want.

Bottom panel should be groups - ALL groups looking for more people, no restrictions on what you can see at all. If a level 20 wants to ask if they can join a Scarlet Monastery group then fine. Again the more info the better - group member classes, specs, locations - so you can see if they're already in the instance or scattered to the four winds, whatever.

Make this LFG window big if needed. Achievements and AH windows are large enough, that kinda size if needed. Test the damn thing. You know, proper interface design type testing, see if it works before chucking it out there.

I think LFG systems are kinda important and they should always act to facilitate grouping of any kind, never impede it.

[Arrrgh]

However, after 5 years Blizzard still haven't made a decent LFG tool so I don't doubt that they'll fuck this up somehow too 

It covers all the basics now. What else should it do to be "decent"?

Has it changed since February? Because even that recently, the one EQ1 had in before WoW's launch was better...

It changed in April. It's better now, not great but I feel it rises to the level of decent.

[Arrrgh]

For starters it shouldn't have any restrictions on what dungeons you can flag yourself as LFG for. I've still got DTK, AN, etc quests on my 80s but I can't flag myself LFG for them? Stupid.

DoaC was launched, what, 4 years before WoW and it had a far superior LFG tool.

What else?

Well I've been thinking about this.

What I'd like is a lot more information. I envisage something split into 2 panels, top panel showing everyone flagged LFG, they're locations, what dungeons/quests they're wanting to group for, their class and level obviously, but a quick way to see talent specs and even gear wouldn't go amiss. Also if you flag yourself LFG you should be able to add a short note of some kind saying anything you want.

Bottom panel should be groups - ALL groups looking for more people, no restrictions on what you can see at all. If a level 20 wants to ask if they can join a Scarlet Monastery group then fine. Again the more info the better - group member classes, specs, locations - so you can see if they're already in the instance or scattered to the four winds, whatever.

Make this LFG window big if needed. Achievements and AH windows are large enough, that kinda size if needed. Test the damn thing. You know, proper interface design type testing, see if it works before chucking it out there.

I think LFG systems are kinda important and they should always act to facilitate grouping of any kind, never impede it.

You can add a comment. It's the Comment button at the bottom. They could stand to be a bit longer but it's enough to get the point across. They show up when you hover over someone's name in the LFG/LFM list.

Seeing all groups at once sounds like clutter. If my 80 is LFG/LFM I don't need to see what all the L1 to L74s are up to. What I don't like is that I can't select a low level instance at all from the drop down menu. It would be nice to be able to see if anyone is LFG for a low level instance that I'm running a friend through with my L80.

[K9]

The main thing that annoys me is the inability to toggle the LFG channel on and off without joining the LFG tool. hence I spend a fair amount of time LFG for wintergrasp or the storm peaks.

[K9]

Interesting update

[Arrrgh]

The main thing that annoys me is the inability to toggle the LFG channel on and off without joining the LFG tool. hence I spend a fair amount of time LFG for wintergrasp or the storm peaks.

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/always-lfg.aspx